/r/SuggestAPC - general-discussion

💕 コード：002 💕 25-Nov-18 02:46 PM

Guess no one uses the off-topic chat, huh?

Thought this would've been a bit more popular.

Maybe we just need a headstart for some conversation.

Anyone here like League of Legends?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Nov-18 02:53 PM

used to play LoL back in the day. I liked Taric a lot, does he still suck lol

💕 コード：002 💕 25-Nov-18 02:55 PM

Depends what do you call back in the day.

He's mediocre now, there's better supports.

Myshro 25-Nov-18 03:06 PM

i like rammus

PayaThePapaya 25-Nov-18 03:08 PM

i play league of legends

I used to eloboost

now i just smurf cuz im a filthy filthy troll

this is my uncle who doesn't know how to walk a dog

💕 コード：002 💕 25-Nov-18 03:09 PM

go walk the dog

picks up the dog and goes walking with it

lmaooo

PayaThePapaya 25-Nov-18 03:10 PM

that's essentially what he did

Spartankitty 25-Nov-18 03:12 PM

Niceu

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Nov-18 04:31 PM

"dog walks human"

Spartankitty 26-Nov-18 07:06 AM

What is the most demanding pc game?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Nov-18 07:14 AM

Crysis?

lifeon 26-Nov-18 07:15 AM

ark survival only because its a game with 0 optomization im aware some people count GTA V as demanding because of its size but its actuall an example of insane optomization and can run great even with integrated graphics ~~so long as you use small resolutio~~

i think its rly varried thou theres proablly no one single "this is the most demanding" because they get demanding in different aspects

Littlepip 26-Nov-18 07:16 AM

The top newest trple a games basically

lifeon 26-Nov-18 07:17 AM

some games are open world and have high demand on processing some are fps that prioritize graphics and speed/framerate and whatnot

Littlepip 26-Nov-18 07:17 AM

Asassins creed oddysey, crysis 3, shadow of the tomb raider

battlefield 5 with rtx on maybe

technically most demanding

Spartankitty 26-Nov-18 07:40 AM

What about star citizen?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Nov-18 08:27 AM

uuu

i like sc (edited)

Mark 26-Nov-18 08:28 AM

Star Citizen isn't demanding as it is not very well optimized (edited)

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Nov-18 08:32 AM

agreed

Spartankitty 26-Nov-18 08:37 AM

You can still like a unoptimized game

Mark 26-Nov-18 09:08 AM

I think it's cool but I worry it'll never get finished

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 26-Nov-18 03:23 PM

I play ESO. I am playing on a laptop now, but I'm looking to get a PC soon. I don't think it's a super intensive game, but I hear it is CPU intensive and not that well optimized. But lovely graphics and story telling as well as dungeons and raids.

PintSizedSlashrr 26-Nov-18 06:11 PM

Here's my setup. Hate to flex on y'all but I had to share. Not going to tell you the specs - don't want to get people jealous.

Spartankitty 26-Nov-18 06:23 PM

@PintSizedSlashrr geez mine as well show us the lamborghini parked out back as well

PintSizedSlashrr 26-Nov-18 06:24 PM

I don't have a garage full of cars, but I have a library of knowledge

Deleted User 26-Nov-18 08:00 PM

gamer

Unpredictable 27-Nov-18 06:31 AM

Is this good for around £200?

Mark 27-Nov-18 06:35 AM

Not bad, you're saving around £30. (edited)

Unpredictable 27-Nov-18 06:39 AM

Just finished ordering all the parts for my first PC, can’t wait

Mark 27-Nov-18 06:56 AM

Nice, good luck!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Nov-18 08:09 AM

when I log in and all the channels are renamed https://i.redd.it/xmulu1f6urt11.jpg

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Nov-18 08:27 AM

and new ones are added https://i.redd.it/xmulu1f6urt11.jpg

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this is the new off-topic

vagabond 27-Nov-18 04:39 PM

Ryzen 5 2400G, Radeon RX Vega 11, 8gb ram, 2TB storage, A320M mother board are these good specs anyone ?

Price 600 if that matters

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Nov-18 09:04 PM

@vagabond be sure to post in #prebuilt-questions too

Guerilla 28-Nov-18 03:46 PM

go in #recommended-deals

or no https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer-Master-7500

Gamer Master 7500

Gamer Master 7500 AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Processor 8GB GEIL EVO POTENZA 3000MHz RAM ASUS TUF X470-Plus Gaming AM4 RGB Motherboard 1TB SATA3 7200 RPM HD Windows 10 Home

wait nvm its not on sale thats the og price

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 04:15 PM

How to do case modding?

PintSizedSlashrr 28-Nov-18 04:39 PM

Check out my new monitor!

Johnny 28-Nov-18 04:47 PM

Is that piss in the bottom

Mark 28-Nov-18 04:51 PM

@Jomsh warrior cats?

Jomsh 28-Nov-18 05:03 PM

lol you guessed it

Mark 28-Nov-18 05:04 PM

ayy that's a rare sight to see

you don't by chance still read, do you? I know it's been nearly a decade haha

Jomsh 28-Nov-18 05:05 PM

Oh for sure

Even though I just started picking back up at the 2nd series I enjoyed them as a kid.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 05:07 PM

Can someone help me with case modding?

Mark 28-Nov-18 05:07 PM

Well I'm here already, haha what do you need?

And damn, the 2nd series is the weakest of all. Oh well lol still cool to see that name

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 05:10 PM

Adding more case fans in places where there isn't a fan mount.

Jomsh 28-Nov-18 05:10 PM

I'll agree the reason I quit was because of how boring the 2nd is for me (edited)

Takes them literally 3 books just to switch camps lol

Mark 28-Nov-18 05:14 PM

Shawn, could you elaborate more? If there are literally no space to put the fan then I'm afraid the only thing left to do is to get out the power tools and cut it out. As for there just being no screw mounts, there are several solutions. Double sided tape works surprisingly well. You could always bust out a drill bit and mount screws yourself if the case permits (no luck with glass unfortunately).

The 2nd series suffers from bad publisher management. I've reread all six series like three times and I still get stuck on the 2nd series -.-

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 05:15 PM

The top panel I'd want to add.

Add a case fan to.

Mark 28-Nov-18 05:16 PM

Does the case have openings for the fans? If it doesn't there aren't many clean solutions.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 05:26 PM

What do you mean by openings?

Mark 28-Nov-18 05:27 PM

like are there holes in the case

i assume you're doing like some sort of air circulation type stuff right? Like beyond the dedicated cooling for the CPU, you are mounting case fans on the top and sides of the case.

Correct me if I'm wrong

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 05:39 PM

I have the Slate 2 case from iBuyPower.

There seems to be 1 on top, 1 on the back, and I think 3 on the front.

I want to add another one on the top.

Mark 28-Nov-18 06:33 PM

Sorry about being gone for so long. So I researched the Slate 2 case and uh, unfortunately there really isn't a good solution to this

From what I can see, the single vent at the top is taken up by a fan by itself. The only real solution to this would be to literally cutting another hole.

You could try to fit two fans so that they both blow through the same vent, but it might not improve airflow by any significant margin

If you want to increase air flow you could always just take off the tempered glass siding and just let it sit in the open, it might mean having to clean out dust more often but it'll solve your issue of air.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 06:51 PM

But as I see the PC now, no fan is there.

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:01 PM

Oh wtf lol alright that makes more sense

alright so if there aren't any screw mounts, there are a few solutions.

I'm sure there are like, clip on screw mounts but I've never used any

double sided tape is a temporary fix, super glue is more permanent but i wouldn't as u can't switch out the fans if something goes wrong.

Back when I was putting together mining rigs, my personal (very scrappy) solution was this, super glue three or four (depending on the screw length) washers together to form a makeshift mount, then measure out the screw slots in the fan and superglue the washers to those measurements.

Also you can drill out a hole and mount screws that way, but that's kinda ugly tbh

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 07:03 PM

I see the top fan mount with the holes,

But no fan sits there.

There's a 120mm liquid cooler radiator that's mounted on the back.

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:04 PM

erm, if there are screw mounts for the fans you can just buy a third party one and mount it on

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 07:05 PM

I want to make a second one though next to it.

If it's even possible.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507002425107021844/516994105608241172/image0.jpg

That's what it looks like now.

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:07 PM

forgive my bad ms paint skills

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 07:07 PM

Yes.

And how is the current liquid cooler position?

Is there a better place for it?

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:08 PM

only solution i know of

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 07:09 PM

Can the front support three case fans?

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:10 PM

the position for the liquid cooler is fine. And what do you mean the can the front support fans? Like where the lights are?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 07:11 PM

Yes.

The front of the case.

Can the front of the case house 3 case fans?

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:14 PM

I mean, I don't see anything stopping you from doing so, but it isn't going to have the proper mounting/space for it which means you'll have to make your own (see above image). (edited)

nvm some fans have USB adaptors, just ignore my latter part.

You're just limited by your case honestly. Why do you even need to mount more fans anyways? Your cooling solutions look perfectly capable.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 07:42 PM

I have LL120 fans here.

@Mark

I just want to know how many I could fit in the case.

And what is the best program to do thermals and other system monitoring with?

Mark 28-Nov-18 07:48 PM

MSI Afterburner is a great one for literally everything, temps, oc, etc. I'm still not quite sure why you would want more fans in your case, you would have to sacrifice the looks of your case to fit in all those fans, to diminishing returns. The logical answer is that the maximum fans you can fit in would be the amount your case supports. I'm sure with some fiddling you can mount an additional fan to the vent at the top if you wanted to. (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 08:16 PM

@Mark GPU temperature while running Friday The 13th: The Game is around upper 60s to low 70s degrees celsius.

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:20 PM

Seems good. I looked up Friday The 13th's spec recommendations and they definitely won't even come close to taxing your RTX card.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 08:20 PM

What should I be testing it on?

Hitman 2?

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:22 PM

Unless you are mining crypto or simulating molecular structures nonstop, the most realistic way to test it would be to just play some semi-demanding games. I don't know what you own but more modern games will be a good basis (think, bo4, witcher, etc.). (edited)

Littlepip 28-Nov-18 08:22 PM

Assassin's creed oddesy (edited)

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:22 PM

sure ^^

Littlepip 28-Nov-18 08:22 PM

Witcher 3

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:23 PM

witcher or red dead are both games i've tried to benchmark and then ended up wasting like three hours playing because i forgot why i started playing them in the first place -.-

nvm not read dead im high or something lol

Littlepip 28-Nov-18 08:24 PM

Well thats what all single player games will do

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 08:25 PM

Hitman or Hitman 2?

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:26 PM

hitman 2, hitman 1 will run so well it'll barely work your card at all.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 08:27 PM

Can I be assured that a game like Witcher will be able to run fine?

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:28 PM

I'd bet my money on it.

Littlepip 28-Nov-18 08:29 PM

Er dont you got a 2080+ or something

Mark 28-Nov-18 08:29 PM

lmao go play some games you literally don't have to worry about games not performing well for like 5+ years (edited)

Achle 28-Nov-18 08:52 PM

Hey guys, I am looking to build a new PC. I do play some games, but not ones that require super high video cards (WoW, League of Legends). I need at least 32GB ram and a decent processor as I work with large excel files (anything less than 16gb = crash) and other data files. My budget is around $1500, including the OS, speakers and a wireless card. Right now I just have one monitor (32 inch, 1080p), but I'll want a second one at some point. I was thinking about this setup, but downgrading the card to a 1070 to save money. Would that be adequate?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xpXg4q

Mark 28-Nov-18 09:01 PM

Hi, looked through your build, pretty good. If you only want to play some lighter titles I would actually recommend just sticking a basic 1060 (or even 1050ti) to save a considerable amount of money. It won't help much with your productivity oriented tasks anyways. This is completely personally preference but some other ways to save money, 1) cut the case down to something a bit cheaper, 2) forego the 1tb SSD and opt for a boot drive instead, 3) drop the 2070 down to a 1060/1050ti and 4) if you are willing to do 3, drop the PS to something a bit cheaper.

Gyro 28-Nov-18 09:02 PM

idk if you need it, but you should be able to get the 650 PSU for the same price

Mark 28-Nov-18 09:02 PM

Also I would recommend you head over to the #tech-discussion as this is for off-topic stuff

Achle 28-Nov-18 09:02 PM

oh whoops. and thank you!

Infitalias00 28-Nov-18 09:28 PM

I have the same PC as shawn, only difference was he got an MSI 2080 and I got a ASUS 2080, I overclocked the 8700k from 3.7 to 5.0, the 2080 from 1800 to 2130 and the 2666 memory to 3000, cpu stays under 50 c under load, GPU stays under 60 c under load even with the lack of fans and just 120 mm aio, so I dont think its really necessary or worth the effort to go modifying the case to add fans it wasnt meant for, especially since he said he wasnt going to overlock anything, cpu should stay under 30 c and gpu under 50 c as mine did before increasing everything. I know he got a bunch of RGB fans that will probably look good, but would think it would be easier to just buy a better case and move everything over?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 28-Nov-18 09:34 PM

I'm sure that'd be more expensive since I'm also financing this PC.

@Infitalias00

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 10:40 AM

Would someone be able to walk me through on how to install case fans?

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 10:44 AM

Try r/buildapc

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 10:46 AM

@Shawn Matthias Howlsey should be pretty straightforward - the fans come with 4 screws that come in from the outside of the case and screw into the fans. Just make sure the fan is oriented to blow air outward if exhaust, or inward if intake

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 10:47 AM

I just want to know if I have to like dismantle and take apart everything to install them.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 10:47 AM

naw, as long as you have enough room to squeeze it in you should be fine

if you don't have space, you might have to remove a bit her and there

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 10:47 AM

Like completely take out the motherboard and graphics card.

But where would I connect the commander pro and lighting node pro?

Cause I also have this:

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 10:50 AM

those are cool

and out of my expertise, i'm not too sure how those hook up

should be some YT videos on how to hook everything up

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 10:50 AM

I would take all this to Best Buy, but they’ll take 2 days to upgrade it?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 10:50 AM

and they'll charge you too much

i'd attempt to do it yourself

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 10:51 AM

Even if it voids the warranty?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 10:52 AM

eh, is that what the warranty says?

not sure how they could ever know you tampered with stuff

💕 コード：002 💕 29-Nov-18 11:06 AM

lol diy

it's easy

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:07 AM

yeah I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of best buy dork-squad for the entire duration of the warranty period

PCs are meant to be serviced

my 2cents

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:11 AM

I mean, it says in the terms here that is not covered: (edited)

“Damage to or failure of upgrades or add-on accessories that were purchased separately from the Covered Product (e.g., upgraded memory, non-factory installed ice makers, screen shields);”

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:13 AM

i interpret that as -- you can't get those addons serviced under the warranty. but let's say your GPU breaks in teh future -- I don't think upgrading or opening your PC voids the warranty

if you want to be safe, sure have them do it. But being out of the pc for 2 days kind of sucks

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:14 AM

Where can I find if it concretely says that DIY stuff does/does not void warranty?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:15 AM

is it HP or cyberpowerpc?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:15 AM

iBuyPower.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:16 AM

so your warranty is through them?

or BB

>iBUYPOWER shall not be liable under this warranty if any damage or defect results from (i) misuse, abuse, neglect, improper shipping or installation; (ii) disasters such as fire, flood, lightning or improper electric current; or (iii) service or alteration by anyone other than an authorized iBUYPOWER representative.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:17 AM

Both I guess.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:17 AM

looks like they can void the warranty if the part is damaged because of something you did

but, if you install case fans, then next year your GPU dies, I don't think your warranty is voided

if you damage your GPU while installing shit, then ya it will be voided

but merely opening the cases and installing stuff shouldn't void anything

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:18 AM

How is the Geek Squad services customer service wise and such?

Are they trustworthy? Do they do shady practices? Do the agents working actually know things about PCs? Etc.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:19 AM

no experience with them, but I would trust my own DIY than theirs to be honest.

they should be fairly knowledgeable, yes

but I've heard horror stories of geeksquad so it's not perfect

if you went to them for somethign general like "my pc is slow" then they will probably try to push upgrades and stuff on you that is unnecessary

but for something specific like, can you install cases fans/leds -- that is straightforward and nothing shady should arise

but you might look in to it, geeksquad could potentially void your ibuypower warranty as much as you doing it yourself. Not sure what BB policy is on that

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:28 AM

I’d rather want to do it myself instead of trust the “Geek Squad” with my computer.

How long does it take to install a case fan?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:37 AM

if you don't have to pull stuff out, maybe a couple of hours if you're being careful

just making the cabling look nice and tucked away will probably take the longest time

take your time and just use it as a learning experience

Infitalias00 29-Nov-18 11:39 AM

Best Buy employees told me when I asked about adding thing into computer or swapping parts voiding warranty, they just just make sure to put original parts back in system when bringing it in and wouldn’t be an issue, if tearing apart case in a way you can’t fix then probably another story (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:40 AM

What do you mean?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:41 AM

basically -- if you add extra parts, remove them before bringing it in to them

if you are claiming warranty

so do what you want to your PC, and if the GPU dies in a year, just remove all the extra stuff you added over the years

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 11:42 AM

Why would the GPU die?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:42 AM

lol it happens

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:42 AM

Anything can happen

Unlikely though

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:44 AM

PC parts are pretty resilient things -- sometimes they can last years, decades even without a hitch

GPUs probably have the highest failure rate after 4-5 years

but even then it's still more uncommon than not

CPUs have remarkable life. You can probably pull out a 2000 PC out of the garbage bin and most likely the CPU is fully operational

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:47 AM

My pc ive used up 2 psus only on third one rn

Everything else been working for 10 yrs

Well i replaced gpu

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:48 AM

my low-tier PSU from 2007 is still working haha. I lucked out

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:48 AM

But for speed was all

Dang

Well my first 2 were no name brands

Now got seasonic one, first bronze psu i got

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:49 AM

I've had GPU issues in the past. My nvidia 8800 GT died. EVGA sent me a replacement 8800 GTS but it was malfunctioning so I replaced it with a HD 6770. That one still works, currently on an R9 270

yeah don't skimp on PSU, at least get branded ones haha

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:51 AM

1st one came with prebuilt, 2nd i think geek squad added

Forgot who put it in 2nd time

Because i put it in 3rd time

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:53 AM

yeah the good thing about PCs is that a lot of parts can be recycled over the years

like case, PSU, etc can just carry over to new builds

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:53 AM

I remember going to bestbuy though n sayinf the psus messed up and if they could fix. They said 200 dollars needed to look at it even though i knew the problem

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:54 AM

jeeze louise

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:54 AM

Hopefully its better now and not worse

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:54 AM

at that price, even if you didn't know it was the PSU, just replace it and see

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:54 AM

Not that i need it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:54 AM

200 can buy you 3-4 new PSUs

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:55 AM

Yeh i was too young though. Didnt know anything about the inside

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:55 AM

haha yeah

i need to go into pc repair I think

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 11:56 AM

Sounds fun

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 11:56 AM

actually I'd like to flip PCs as a side gig

order a 200 dollar non-gaming machine on ebay/amazon, add a new PSU and GPU and sell it as a gaming machie

only hesitation is that people don't like buying used parts. But I figured a new PSU and GPU (the two parts with highest failure rates) would help incentivize people (edited)

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 12:02 PM

Lol

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 12:03 PM

Where can you put the hubs for the fans and such?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 12:04 PM

the manual says just stick it somewhere to the inside of the case using double sided tape

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 12:05 PM

So I need to buy some double sided tape?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 12:05 PM

it didn't come with some?

yeah manual says it comes with mounting tape

check the box, or trash xD

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 12:09 PM

What about the LED strips?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 12:12 PM

do you have two separate hubs?

one for the fans and one for the LEDs?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 12:31 PM

I think so. I need to wait until I’m home to open the boxes up.

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 01:10 PM

jesus

my skytech pc came in, its freaking massive lol

atleast with the box

schwags 29-Nov-18 01:40 PM

oh crazy i got that one in the mail too... the picture makes it look compact lol

How do you like it?

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 01:40 PM

Well, looks amazing

Specs seem right

schwags 29-Nov-18 01:40 PM

is it the 1060 one?

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 01:40 PM

2070 rtx , posted pic in build showcase

schwags 29-Nov-18 01:40 PM

oh you got the beast one nice

I will be slowly upgrading mine

gonna buy something every 2 months for it

first order of business is more RAM

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 01:44 PM

schwags 29-Nov-18 01:48 PM

whats your first game you gonna test it with?

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 01:49 PM

Mmmm

Pubg maybe

i have black ops 4 but i hate that game

Oh, i also got for honor, could test its speed on that game

schwags 29-Nov-18 01:51 PM

pubg is a good test lol

only high end comps can run that game

Infitalias00 29-Nov-18 02:22 PM

hope its good, I have a skytech coming as well, had this ibuypower a few days so will spend a few with skytech one and then keep one and return other

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 02:22 PM

Yeh ill let you guys know how it runs

Infitalias00 29-Nov-18 02:27 PM

skytech had higher base price with lower cost support plan from amazon, ibuypower had lower base price but higher support cost from bestbuy, so both came out to about same price, both 8700k, ibuypower is 2080 skytech is 1080 ti, ibuy is 2666 memory offbrand, skytech is 3200 g.skill, ibuypower came with 1 TB ssd, skytech 500 gb ssd and 2 tb hdd, ibuypower only had 120mm aio on cpu with 2 case fans, 3 fans total, skytech is 360mm aio on cpu with 4 case fans, 7 fans total, should both be about same performance but think temps will be better with overclocking in the skytech with the adiditional cooling

and might return both and get this other skytech that has a 2080 ti for 2400, has a little less in other departs but hell, looking at 2080 ti prices I could replace the ram and storage and some other things and still not come close to price difference of putting a 2080 ti in the other two

considering cheapest 2080 ti is about $1200 that alone is half the $2400 computer ha

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 04:37 PM

CPUbenchmark scores UserBenchmarks: Game 116%, Desk 89%, Work 101% CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X - 98.8% GPU: Nvidia RTX 2070 - 141.1% SSD: HP S700 250GB - 61.6% HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - 105.5% RAM: Adata DDR4 2400 2OZ 2x8GB - 86.3% MBD: Asrock B450 Gaming K4

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Dunno why the RTX is at 141.1% , i guess thats a good thing lol

Faster that is the better

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 06:00 PM

Pubg running very well on ultra

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 06:09 PM

this pcs a beast

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 07:37 PM

yeah the 100% is based on some reference card, like the gtx 1080 or something. that is why you can go over

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 07:38 PM

ah

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 07:44 PM

Alright, does anyone want to see what’s inside the boxes of the LL120 fans and the Lighting Node Pro so I can have help setting this up?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 07:57 PM

sure i can help

Infitalias00 29-Nov-18 08:05 PM

@Littlepip UserBenchmarks: Game 133%, Desk 105%, Work 107% CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 118.1% GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 - 167.4% SSD: Adata Ultimate SU800 1TB - 109.9% RAM: Unknown 2x8GB - 83.5% MBD: Asrock Z370 IB-R (edited)

lol at first I was getting super low % on the GPU and I was like wtf, turned out having Gsynch on during testing messes up results, supposed to disable

Littlepip 29-Nov-18 08:07 PM

Nice stats

1tb ssd yummy

also just figured out how to turn the rgb on my keboard, beatiful and very useful as a gamer

Infitalias00 29-Nov-18 08:08 PM

just what it came with, dont know about that brand, bought another 1 tb ssd samsung evo while it was on sale cheap, havent looked at how to install it yet though

probably wait until the skytech comes and compare then put the other ssd in one im keeping

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:09 PM

what cpu, gpu does the skytech have

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:11 PM

Infitalias00 29-Nov-18 08:11 PM

same 8700k, which I will probably overlock more, only took it to 4.7 on this one since it doesnt have much cooling, will do at least 5 if not more on the skytech since it has alot more cooling, and it has a 1080 ti

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:11 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo that’s the Lighting Node Pro.

@ToTimesTwoIsToo everything from both boxes.

What to do next?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:24 PM

ok the topmost square is where you connect the 3 fans

the ports are labeled, 1,2,3,4,5,6

be sure to plug the fans into ports 1,2,3

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:25 PM

So unbox the fans now?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:25 PM

yep

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:26 PM

Next?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:28 PM

ok so you have cables going from the fans to ports 1,2,3?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:30 PM

Like this?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:30 PM

yep

ok now you connect that hub to the lighting node pro hub

do you have 2 lighting node pro hubs?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:31 PM

Yes.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:31 PM

but the kit should only come with one?

did you buy a second one?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:32 PM

The Lighting Node Pro kit had one.

I bought an LL120 fan kit,

And a Lighting Node Pro kit.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:33 PM

how many strips come with the ll120 kit

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:34 PM

No strips with the LL120.

Four with the Lighting Node Pro kit.

Next?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:36 PM

oh ok I think i see now

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:36 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:37 PM

2 stips per hub

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:37 PM

Is this correct?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:38 PM

yes that looks right, then you connect the usb cable to the little hub on the right

the other end of that header plugs into your mobo

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:38 PM

This cable?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:39 PM

yep

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:40 PM

Now what?

Do I take the glass panel off of my computer case?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:44 PM

you're going to need to access the extra SATA power cables

if you cables are managed well, you will probably have to take off the OTHER side

or wherever the extra PSU cables are stuffed

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:45 PM

Hmm...

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:45 PM

depends on your case, there might be storage space right beside your psu

either way you need to get access to a sata power cable

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:46 PM

Do I need to take off the other side?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:47 PM

yeah you might take it off and just see if you can find a sata cagble

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:50 PM

Are you sure this isn’t complicated?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:50 PM

you have to get your hands dirty a bit

it's fine you can do it

just make sure your pc is powered down

so your SSD is powered by a sata, for example

you are looking for another one to power your hubs

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:53 PM

One problem.

I don’t have a screwdriver head small enough to fit in the screw holes surrounding the screws.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:54 PM

what are you trying to unscrew

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:54 PM

The other side panel.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:55 PM

hmm

can you show a picture of one of the screws

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:55 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:56 PM

ok that fat round thing is a thumb screw

there should be 2 or 3

I don't thin kyou'll need a screwdriver

just twist those off

the smaller screws are meant to stay in

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:57 PM

But inside I see a screw.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:57 PM

it just looks like that, just twist it off with fingers (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 08:59 PM

They feel a whole lot more than finger tight.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 08:59 PM

hmm they should come off easily, you might need to use screwdriver

in future, just finger-tighten them, they don't need to be that secure

i guess it came tight from the factory

you are turning counter clockwise right

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:01 PM

This is my first ever time attempting to remove that panel.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:01 PM

yeah it probably came tighter than it should be

how many of the fat screws do you see

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:01 PM

2.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:03 PM

yeah those are most certainly the screws to remove that panel. if you can't get them off with fingers, you'll need to find a small enough screwdriver to get them

but

this all might not be necessary. it really depends on where you power cables are

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:03 PM

What do you need a picture of?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:04 PM

so maybe just remove teh glass side

you see the big box thing at teh bottom? the thing your SSD is sitting on?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:05 PM

Yes.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:05 PM

your psu cables are probably all stuffed in there

can you reach down there and see if you can pull a sata cable out>?

i can't tell if ther eis an opening ther ein the pic

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:07 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:08 PM

i see yeah all of your cables are stuffed down there

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:09 PM

What now?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:09 PM

you need to get access to some sata cables

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:09 PM

How do I do that?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:10 PM

does this case have name or is it ibuypower branded?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:11 PM

Slate 2.

It’s a signature case of iBuyPower’s I believe.

I’m not sure if it’s a rebranded case.

Should I give up and put everything back in their boxes and try again later?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:13 PM

haha, how about we try again another night. I have to get off soon anyways

in the meantime

find a screwdriver that fits the side panel

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:13 PM

Is it easy to screw in the top fan?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:13 PM

because it might be helpful to have that off while you are working on this

yeah case fans are simple to install

you just hold teh fan in position with one hand and screw it in from the other side

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:16 PM

I’m scared to do any of this.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:17 PM

sure, it's always scary to first work on your PC. You get used to it with time. Installing chassis fans and leds is actually not very easy (edited)

even installing a gpu or ram is easier

just remember, these things are meant to be worked on

you just have to move stuff around

you won't break anything easily

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:21 PM

And I can’t seem to unplug the fans from the hub.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:21 PM

there might be a small tab that holds it in

like an ethernet port

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:22 PM

I’m trying that, but I cannot seem to pull it out.

Got them, tilted the plug slightly downward to get them out.

Are the tiny cords going into the pins extremely delicate?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:25 PM

naw just try not to bend them too aggresively

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:27 PM

Would I know instantly if it broke?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:28 PM

yes

basically the black part would be ripped and you'd see a tathered metal wired underneath

don't worry these things are tougher than you think

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:39 PM

Do I need to perfectly put everything back in the box like how it came packaged?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:40 PM

of course not, unless you plan to return it or something

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:41 PM

I’m just thinking of putting all the cables and such in a bag so I don’t break them or something.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:41 PM

yeah probably easier to just put them in a large ziplock back

bag

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:47 PM

And why do I only see two wires here if it looks like there should be three?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:48 PM

it's normal, just a 2 wire that terminates into a 3 pin header

the connection only needs 2 wires, but the port uses 3 pins. So one pin is empty. but maybe other connections need all three. something liek that (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 09:51 PM

Everything safe in it’s disorganized glory.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Nov-18 09:52 PM

haha looks good

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 29-Nov-18 10:00 PM

How to clean tempered glass?

Of fingerprints.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 06:20 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo is the one black cable I see a SATA connector?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 07:40 AM

no that is a 4 pin molex

it will look something like this https://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00FjiaZyhkMnqQ/SATA-Power-Female-to-Female-Cable.jpg

there is one connected to your SSD

these will be used to power up your fans and hubs

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 07:52 AM

Are PSU cables durable?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 07:53 AM

yes, they'd be hard to break even if you tried

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 07:55 AM

Can I have the RGB power cables?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 07:56 AM

what do you mean?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 07:58 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:09 AM

is that even a real product lol

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:10 AM

Yes.

https://m.newegg.com/products/1W7-007E-00001?ignorebbr=true&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile-_-pla-_-Cables+-+Internal+Power+Cables-_-1W7-007E-00001&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3d2hu8D83gIV9f_jBx0JmgxLEAQYASABEgL6W_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:11 AM

eh it's a little janky it appears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8zTvBaqvlM

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it's not even RGB power cables - it's just LED strips on top of transparent power cables

but sure, it appears to be designed to work with any pc

so it could work

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:12 AM

How do I get the screws off the side panel of my case? Do I need pliers?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:13 AM

those two screws we talked about yesterday should be all you need. No pliers are needed

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:15 AM

What size of screwdriver do I need?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:16 AM

they aren't standard size so you might need to try out a few

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:16 AM

And once that comes off, I should see a SATA cable?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:18 AM

maybe. they might still be stuffed in the storage below

but getting that panel off should help

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:19 AM

And then I’ll need help connecting fans and cable management.

I almost dropped the tempered glass panel.

How do you remove it safely without help?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:20 AM

the other side isnt tempered glass right?

should be light

look here

https://youtu.be/Hn-IAN52G8o?t=460

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this is what you'll see when you take off the other side panel -- you have easy access to all of the psu cables

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:21 AM

I’m thinking of buying a glass panel for that side.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:22 AM

i mean you could, but usually it's opaque to hide the ugly cables

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:22 AM

I want a glass panel that is hinged.

So the glass side is easier to open up.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:24 AM

yeah that would be nice

btw where do you plan to install these fans

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:29 AM

Front top and middle, and top of case.

I figured if I put a bottom fan at the front bottom, it wouldn’t add anything since it just would be blowing at the PSU cable stash.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:32 AM

I see, yeah that should work

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:34 AM

What is optimal airflow?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:37 AM

basically you want a nice steady stream of cool air blowing from your intake fans to to exhaust fans

the cool air will pass over your component parts, to help keep their temps down

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:38 AM

While the hot air goes outside?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:38 AM

yeah exactly

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:39 AM

How do I connect all 4 LED strips?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:40 AM

honestly i don't know, i was looking into it forever last night and still can't seem to get a good answer

:/

do the LEDs link together?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:46 AM

Not sure.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:47 AM

show me a close up photo of the 2 ends of the LED strip

basically, can 1 end of the led strip plug directly into the other end of another strip

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:50 AM

I’m not home right now, so I’ll have to wait until I get home.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 08:55 AM

k, so it appears each channel can handle up to 6 LEDS, so I think you can just chain them all together, plug the chain into one spot on the hub, then plug that hub into the usb header on your mobo

ok yes, exactly, like this https://i.imgur.com/4qcqpWr.jpg

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 08:56 AM

What is the best thing you can do with case modding?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 09:01 AM

not sure what you mean

case modding comes down to personal preference really

it's purely for aesthetics

there is no best

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 09:38 AM

Like, what are case mods that make tinkering and upgrading easier, @ToTimesTwoIsToo?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 09:44 AM

oh I see, not sure. really haven't looked into case modding for those purposes. To me the biggest factors are ease of access to PSU cables and the ability to tuck stuff away. More often than not you are at the mercy of your case in those regards

Deeds 30-Nov-18 10:35 AM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L2x3MZ Anyone have any advice/input on this build?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 12:40 PM

You’d want a liquid cooler for that 9900k, @Deeds.

Or at least powerful enough cooling for it.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 02:07 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo I got the side panel off.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 02:08 PM

nice, can you see sata cables now?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 02:08 PM

My PSU is a Thermaltake one.

I think I see one.

Do you?

And will there always be this gap now whenever I put the panel back on?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 02:26 PM

Is there a way I can fix this?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 02:41 PM

I have a feeing it’s because the PSU cables stick out more since I removed the panel.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Nov-18 02:44 PM

hey Shawn I'll report back in late tonight or tomorrow, I have some dinner plans and will be out for the next few hours.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 30-Nov-18 02:45 PM

Ah.

I’m just scared something broke or something.

How do I get the panels to be flush again?

Spartankitty 01-Dec-18 11:46 AM

Anyone know of any good desks for gaming?

Mark 01-Dec-18 12:02 PM

I'm not too sure what you mean by this, will a desk help you game better? e.e (edited)

Just go to IKEA my friend

Or a box

Aejys 01-Dec-18 12:33 PM

Find a used office supply place if you're in a decent sized city. You can generally get something sturdy for pretty cheap and generally already assembled.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 12:53 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo you going to be home tonight so I can have help adding case fans?

Spartankitty 01-Dec-18 01:05 PM

@Mark just a reliable desk that can handle heavy things like monitors and computers

Mark 01-Dec-18 02:08 PM

I use a wooden desk I got from an office liquidation so @Aejys advice holds true. Not too much to say here, desk brands aren't really something I'm extremely familiar with. However, since we are on the subject of furniture already, I'm actually going to say "racer" chairs like the dx racer are extremely bad for your legs and back. If you do get a new chair invest in a nice ergonomic office ones. (edited)

Johnny 01-Dec-18 02:13 PM

So spinny chairs a no go?

Spartankitty 01-Dec-18 05:38 PM

Ok

Guerilla 01-Dec-18 06:15 PM

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Spartankitty 01-Dec-18 06:17 PM

@Guerilla pretty good for the price

Guerilla 01-Dec-18 06:18 PM

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Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 07:31 PM

@Mark are you knowledgeable in installing case fans?

Mark 01-Dec-18 07:48 PM

Sure, what do you need?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:06 PM

How to install and connect them.

@Mark

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:23 PM

And just got a BSOD.

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:23 PM

That shouldn't be related to your fans, I think.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:24 PM

Driver Power State Failure.

Is that serious, @Mark?

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:26 PM

First off, sorry for if I reply late, this csgo game is getting intense -.-

Littlepip 01-Dec-18 08:26 PM

Quick google search says this : Symptom 1: 0x0000009f error screen on startup. This error, which is also known as DRIVER POWER STATE FAILURE is usually triggered by a driver-related issue and usually appears after a fresh driver installation. A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

So probably not that serious i think

But annoying

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:27 PM

How do I find which driver is the problem?

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:27 PM

Driver power state failure is caused when you have incompatible power settings/drivers. Has this happened before?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:27 PM

No.

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:28 PM

Did you install anything new?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:28 PM

Not that I know of, other than Razer Synapse I think.

And the MSI Afterburner.

But what defines new?

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:30 PM

Could be Afterburner if you fiddled with power usage settings. Did you change anything?

Littlepip 01-Dec-18 08:32 PM

also id say new would be defined as stuff installed after a working point onward

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:33 PM

Common logic would be to uninstall Afterburner and see if any more BSOD issues come up. BSOD issues very rarely come up without user input. There are tons of lightweight, temperature monitoring software if you aren't using Afterburner to overclock. Try having Afterburner uninstalled for a few days and see if anything comes up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:34 PM

@Shawn Matthias Howlsey sup man, sorry was busy today. hows the case/fans going?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:34 PM

Haven’t started yet, got a BSOD.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:34 PM

oh, like every time or just once?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:35 PM

Just once now.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:35 PM

i see, its not too uncommon to get bsod from time to time, doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:36 PM

Is there something I can use to find problematic programs?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:36 PM

not really, but it's usually easy to tell if there is a culprit program that is crashing your pc

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:37 PM

I’m just running a antivirus scan right now.

See if it catches anything?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:38 PM

yeah but you most certainly don't have a virus. it's pretty rare unless you go off and download shady stuff from the internet

just make sure the build in windows 10 antivirus is always active

it will check periodically and warn you if it catches anything

and virus aren't really designed to crash a system

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:38 PM

I use Kaspersky.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:39 PM

I see, I don't know that program. google says it's russian?

why use it?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:40 PM

Best Buy included it for free.

Found some bloatware.

Why do you think I need Candy Crush Saga?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:41 PM

you don't lol

just go to programs and features and remove programs that you don't use or think you need

Mark 01-Dec-18 08:41 PM

lmao btw windows 10 packs in a ton a crap you should probably clean it out

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:41 PM

Why are there three DRAM Component programs?

G.Skill Aura, Geil Aura, and Adata Aura.

And KingMax Aura.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:42 PM

ibuypower just preinstalls that stuff -- it's not part of original windows 10

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:42 PM

And Team Group Aura,

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:43 PM

all that shit is safe to remove if you want

if you are paranoid you can always just do a refresh win 10 reset, which is probably what eveyrone should do when buying a prebuilt and before taking the time to setup their computer

https://superuser.com/questions/1293547/reset-windows-10-on-new-computer-to-remove-bloatware

Reset Windows 10 on new computer to remove bloatware

If I get a new Win10 computer, filled with bloatware, can I reset the factory installed Windows and create the equivalent of a clean install, getting rid of all the flotsam and jetsam?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:46 PM

And how do I fix this?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515655959536861195/518188422448545792/image0.jpg

I've removed the panel, put it back on, and now it looks like this.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:46 PM

is that a top view?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:46 PM

Yes.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:47 PM

pull it off and make sure the little tabs go into the holes as you are closing the panel

basically, it appears you didn't put it back exactly right

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:47 PM

Or is it because the PSU cables are sticking out slightly when I remove the panel?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:48 PM

perhaps, but if that is the top and your cables are at the bottom, you wouldn't see a big gap

just make sure the cables aren't getting pinched or are in the way as you close the panel

a lot of side panels have a "sliding" mechanism where you have to put the panel in place, then slide if forward to teh final spot

pull the panel off and show me a pic of the inside side of that panel

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:51 PM

Here's part of it:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/515655959536861195/518186642658295808/image0.jpg

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 08:53 PM

ok what does the panel part look like (the part you just removed)? there should be little tabs sticking out along the top and bottom (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 01-Dec-18 08:53 PM

There was none of that.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 09:06 PM

when you put the side panel on, usually there are small tabs that fit in those spots circled red

if you don't line it up right, you can get gaps like you are seeing

josmo 01-Dec-18 09:07 PM

hey guys, i was hoping i could get some suggestions here for a decent gaming desktop. I originally ordered the omen 870-244 from newegg and was psyched about it, but the order got cancelled

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 09:07 PM

so I'd pull the side panel off and double check that every thing is lining up

josmo 01-Dec-18 09:08 PM

I don't really want to spend more than 1k on it, and was hoping to get at least a 1060 6gb desktop

Any suggestions?

Mark 01-Dec-18 09:27 PM

@josmo It's going to be a little bit of a challenge to get a good 1060 6gb laptop for close 1k. The cheapest 1060 laptops I know of are going to be around $1,100 at minimum, unless they are on sale. Even then, it won't be a full sized 1060. It'll be the max-q variant. If that's fine with you I can take a look for you.

josmo 01-Dec-18 09:33 PM

Oh, I'm looking for a desktop not a laptop

I just got a new laptop, one of the x1 carbon 6th gens

You'd think that for >2k it would be able to at least play fortnite. nope lol

Mark 01-Dec-18 09:35 PM

Oh shit I misread my bad

josmo 01-Dec-18 09:36 PM

no worries

Mark 01-Dec-18 09:38 PM

Alright, I'll take a look for you (though I might be a little slow as I'm in-game right now). Here's another thing with the 1060, most desktops usually have the 1060 3gb variant and usually any desktop with the 6gb variant will be so expensive, you might as well spec an extra $100 to get a 1070.

Most likely, anything that's worth the price will have a 3gb in it. I'll try my best to look for the 6gb version though.

josmo 01-Dec-18 09:41 PM

Thanks man I appreciate it. I already got some good suggestions https://www.microcenter.com/product/507160/g223-desktop-computer

PowerSpec G223 Desktop Computer - Micro Center

Mark 01-Dec-18 09:45 PM

Not bad, something to match, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230340 for $50 less but it's going to have the 3gb

Since you live near a micro center, I'm not actually sure sure if you'll find anything that is significantly cheaper than that.

At least anything that'll have the 6gb variant in it.

josmo 01-Dec-18 09:49 PM

what is your opinion on newegg recently

their CS has been impossible to get in contact with

Mark 01-Dec-18 09:53 PM

Newegg has always been kinda iffy with their support. I'd say they are quite reputable like 85-90% of the time.

I usually prefer Amazon though.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Dec-18 09:53 PM

yeah hard to beat amazon, their support is ~~amazon~~ amazing

Mark 01-Dec-18 09:54 PM

i see what u did there

SincerelyAsh 02-Dec-18 09:50 AM

whats the fastest way to get banned from this server

@everyone

is gay

2

Mark 02-Dec-18 01:29 PM

@AshMilkshake#7816 Let's chill out

bruh what he got kicked lmaoo

Oh nvm he left haha

Spartankitty 02-Dec-18 06:25 PM

lol if he got banned

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 02-Dec-18 07:48 PM

How to fix a dented side panel?

Or is there no way?

Mark 02-Dec-18 08:40 PM

Try doing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9OGa9vB42Q

yagelski

Paintless Dent Repair Using a Heat Gun and a Can of Compressed Gas...

Can you repair dents in an automobile with a hair dryer and a can of compressed air? Yes and no. It depends upon the location and severity of the damage. But...

It's not the same thing but it'll be pretty similar. Only do this if you can remove your side panel though.

I can confirm this actually works. I fixed a dent in the side of my cheap refrigerator with this method haha

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 06:42 AM

How good are the Thermaltake PSUs?

Mark 03-Dec-18 06:45 AM

According to this list (https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/) that @ToTimesTwoIsToo sent, they seem to have both good and bad ones. I've used a 650W Smart Series one and it's honestly alright.

PSU Tier List Updated

Credit to @Starelementpokeand @Energycore for helping out with this long-awaited refresh of the old PSU tier list by Aniallation (who previously went several months without logging in), leaving the old list in need of help. This is simply an update of the list that was flawed...

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 08:41 AM

@Shawn Matthias Howlsey you ever get your side panel in place?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 08:46 AM

Yes.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 08:46 AM

lol ok good

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 08:47 AM

I want to try to install my case fans today.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 09:28 AM

go for it!

also, you can just connect all of the fans and LED lights without actually putting them into the case, just to see that everything is connected correctly

as in, just hook them up to the mobo and PSU, and turn the system on and make sure everything is in working order. then turn off pc and then actually install the fans into the case

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:47 AM

This might be more than people are willing to do but I am looking at finding a kind of budget gaming PC and I'd like it to be from this group from Amazon which will let me pay it off in 5 interest free payments (apparently that option doesn't show for everyone) and the skytech PCs don't show it anymore either. So basicly just the HPs, Acers, Cyberpower, and Ibuypower. I have been googling the processor and video cards of these and as they are all different they are so hard for me to compare! I would like to be in the $700 - $900 range. If these are terrible options and I just need to buy something somewhere else and not take advantage of that handy 5 payments no interest thing I'd love to know that too. If you are willig to take a stab at it this is the link https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydytgj58 TIA or I just included the whole link (edited)

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A%2113900871%2Cn%3A%212334091011%2Cn%3A%212334153011%2Cn%3A6805248011%2Cn%3A17703047011&ie=UTF8&qid=1543855316&ajr=2

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 09:48 AM

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-GXIVR8020A5-Desktop-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B07B6H4GNY/ref=lp_17703047011_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543859280&sr=1-5

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 09:48 AM

Will I need to disconnect any cables to install the case fans, @ToTimesTwoIsToo?

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:49 AM

@Littlepip , that is a good one for a decent price?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 09:50 AM

@Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) @Littlepip 's suggestion is good, also consider this one which as an SSD https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-GXiVR8060A5-i5-8400-GeForce/dp/B0757DVF4Z/ref=lp_17703047011_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543859260&sr=1-1

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 09:50 AM

seems about average price, doesnt seem overpriced

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:50 AM

those were the two I was thinking of

but I wasn't sure about the Omen one maybe

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 09:50 AM

the one i linked will have 1 more gb of vram on the card

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 09:51 AM

@Shawn Matthias Howlsey no you won't need to disconnect anything, just make sure your pc is booted down and maybe unplugged from the wall before connecting stuff up (edited)

@Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) which omen?

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:53 AM

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Desktop-Computer-Processor-880-010/dp/B0718ZGQNY/ref=lp_17703047011_1_16?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543858620&sr=1-16

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 09:54 AM

the i5 8400 is the better processor so I'd go with the cyberpowerpcs

1

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 09:56 AM

i wouldnt reccomend any card under 4gb of vram either

1

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:56 AM

or last contender is this Dell https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-7806BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Desktop-i7-8700/dp/B079HX9F6W/ref=lp_17703047011_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1543859720&sr=1-15

It is a bit more, maybe worth it?

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 09:57 AM

not really

er

by not really i meant, not at all

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:57 AM

lol, thank you!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 09:58 AM

you might as well stretch for this one in that case https://www.walmart.com/ip/CYBERPOWERPC-Gamer-Supreme-Liquid-Cool-SLC9108W-w-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-AMD-Radeon-RX-590-8GB-16GB-Memory-240GB-SSD-2TB-HDD-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-bit-G/299725698?u1=f255fe76f72411e88c0e82142f90b8d80INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=11698808360973851689&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool SLC9108W w/ AMD Ryzen 7 270...

Free Shipping. Buy CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool SLC9108W w/ AMD Ryzen 7 2700X/ AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB, 16GB Memory, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD, WiFi and Windows 10 Home 64-bit Gaming PC Gaming Bundle Included at Walmart.com

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 09:58 AM

that is a fair price

quite a nice price actually

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 09:58 AM

yeah one of the better deals going on atm

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 09:59 AM

But If I go for the Amazon get the Cyberpower one without the SSD drive and add my own, correct?

And if I decide to streatch and get something from somewhere else get that Walmart, which does look very good.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 10:01 AM

yeah you can always add an SSD yourself it's pretty simple

even 120GB for the OS would be great

which should only cost ~50

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 10:01 AM

I did it, I added one to my laptop which I use for gaming now.

Thanks for the help!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 10:03 AM

also this deal to consider

https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Gaming-ArchAngel-Elite-AMD-Ryzen-2600-3-4-GHz-Nvidia-GeForce-1070-TI-8GB-8GB-DDR4-2400-MEMORY-500-GB-SSD-w-3D-NAND-650-Watts-Windows-10-Home-/569243217?u1=a7c20c14f72511e8bfe89edbf881296a0INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=42645714540691654998&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

SkyTech Gaming ArchAngel Elite AMD Ryzen 2600 3.4 GHz, Nvidia GeFo...

Free Shipping. Buy SkyTech Gaming ArchAngel Elite AMD Ryzen 2600 3.4 GHz, Nvidia GeForce 1070 TI 8GB, 8GB DDR4 2400 MEMORY, 500 GB SSD w/ 3D NAND, 650 Watts, Windows 10 Home 64-bit at Walmart.com

so you have options

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 03-Dec-18 10:09 AM

thanks, I really like that Amazon idea of paying something off interest free in 5 chunks, but that one already has a 500gb SSD. I feel like know I know to look for the video card having 4 gb of VRAM so that will help me.

That skytech looks good tho

It has really good reviews

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 10:12 AM

i have a skytech pi-

Was going to say pizza (edited)

. i wrote it again lol

I have a skytech pc, its amazing. The only downside to that pc is 8gb of ram only (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 10:15 AM

the gtx 1070 ti is a great GPU and it's almost impossible to find a prebuilt under 1000 with that card (edited)

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:14 AM

oddly enough, i just came here to ask what the general consensus was on that exact SkyTech computer

i could build a similar spec pc for abut the same price but i am making a recommendation for a friend, i think prebuilt is the way to go for him. do the SkyTechs hold up pretty well?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:16 AM

they generally have good reviews on amazon and walmart, so for a prebuilt I'd say that they are reliable

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:16 AM

and does anyone know if it is 1x8gb or 2x4gb?

picture shows 1 stick, but that doesnt appear to be the same pc, that shows a 500w psu, description says 650

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:17 AM

@Littlepip is it 1x8?

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:18 AM

assuming it is microATX, i guess that at least leaves room for expandability with another 8gb stick, just unfortunate to not have DDR bandwidth out of the box

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

Is wot 1x8

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

you have the skytech walmart pc?

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

Yeah.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

is the ram 1x8 or 2x4

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

Its 2x8

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

oh sweet

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:20 AM

But 2 more free slots

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:21 AM

oh really? so it isnt microatx?

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:21 AM

Er

I have a different pc not that one

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:21 AM

ah

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:21 AM

I can link mine onr sec

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:21 AM

you have the 1050ti version?

ok

Littlepip 03-Dec-18 11:22 AM

This is one i have https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-RTX-2070-Oracle-Computer/dp/B07JYTG9DX

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:23 AM

nice, looks like a beast, but yeah im looking at the 1070ti version from walmart. seems fairly priced at $929

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:23 AM

@nameloC my guess is that it has 1x8

and if it has 2x4, most likely it has 4 dimm slots

worst case scenario you just do a full swap to get 16gb instead of adding

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:24 AM

you know what, in the Customer Q&A section, it confirms exactly that

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:24 AM

you're still coming out with a good deal

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:24 AM

i just now saw it

yeah i agree

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:25 AM

also, you can look into ram speeds with ryzen processors -- you might want to do a swap for 3000mhz ram

usually ram speeds aren't a huge factor but for whatever reason it impacts ryzen cpus more

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:25 AM

yeah i know the ryzen processors like faster ram, im thinking this will get him by until he is ready to make some upgrades

for sure

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:26 AM

oh definitely, it's a killer machine for this price range

the other one to consider is this one https://slickdeals.net/f/12353191-cyberpowerpc-liquid-cool-ryzen-7-2700x-amd-radeon-rx-590-8gb-16gb-ram-240gb-ssd-2tb-hdd-wifi-windows-10-999-99?src=catpagev2

CYBERPOWERPC Liquid Cool / Ryzen 7 2700X/ AMD Radeon RX 590 8GB/ 1...

Seems like a good deal to me and I thought others may benefit. Pros: -If you add up the prices of the components it is a very fair price vs building it yourself -Walmart: Which means you can re ...

$999 and is perhaps a more "complete" machine

stronger cpu, weaker GPU though

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:27 AM

hmm

he'll be gaming at 1080p, so im thinking either card will work just fine. might make sense to go for that faster processor

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 11:29 AM

yeah imo you can't go wrong with either. Both CPUs are strong enough to give some future proofing

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:31 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo you able to help now?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:34 PM

still at work and will probably leave soonish, I have a couple of errands to run but should be available around 9-10

but yeah basically connect everything like this https://i.imgur.com/4qcqpWr.jpg

the box on the right connects to your mobo header

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:36 PM

And then feed the cables through?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:38 PM

yeah what I'd do is take your side panel off, the one to access to the psu cables, and sort of build outside of the case on that side

so that everything reaches

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:38 PM

Best position for the fan hub?

So I’ll have wires outside my case?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:39 PM

well just temporarily. you could just mount everything first but personally I'd just connect everything first, test it by turning on the pc. and if that works then disconnect it all and find a good way to mount everything

basically, do it the easy way first outside of the case, make sure it all makes sense, and they redo it but inside the case

but, you can do it how you like

also not sure if hubs should mount to the back side

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:40 PM

Where is the plug I want?

Is it this one?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:41 PM

yeah the hubs connect to those guys

you'll need 2 for the 2 hubs, so there should be one further up or down that cable

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:43 PM

I see one, but I cannot reach it.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:44 PM

there might be another cable with sata connectors

you don't need to pull it out, but you'll need to connect stuff to it

but yeah you'll need to maneuver stuff to get yours hands close enough to connect stuff

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:46 PM

How do you connect the cable?

Gold side up or down?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:47 PM

there is notch on one side

so it will only go in one way

see the L shape ?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:48 PM

Correct?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:49 PM

uh, not sure. you probably should not be seeing the gold contacts if they are fully connected (edited)

so the notches line up right?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:50 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:50 PM

there ya go

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:51 PM

But how can I close the side panel now?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:52 PM

yeah don't worry about that for now. we can disconnect stuff and rearrange. For now just try to see if you can connect everything. because if you install everything first it will just be that much more difficult to properly connect stuff

which hub did you just plug in?

try to plug in the other hub to another sata connector

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:52 PM

The 6 fan hub.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:54 PM

you can have the other side panel off and sort of reach through that way too if it helps

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 03:56 PM

So once I connect a fan, turn on the PC?

To see if it works?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 03:58 PM

so what all is connected right now?

just the fan hub?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:00 PM

And a fan to the hub.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:00 PM

so does the fan require a separate power connector?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:01 PM

Not sure.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:01 PM

can you take a picture of an unconnected fan?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:02 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:07 PM

from my understanding the hubs only control the LEDs and one provide power the fans for them to spin up

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:07 PM

What does that plug go to?

A USB header?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:08 PM

not usb header, a system fan header

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:08 PM

Where do I find that?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:09 PM

do you have the model of your mobo?

the mobo manual should show a diagram of all of the headers

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:18 PM

connect it like this

https://i.imgur.com/bKWClsZh.png

and then turn it on and you should see lights

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:19 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:19 PM

beautiful

you can plug the LED strips in too

to the spare spot on the smaller hub

does the fan spin or not?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:20 PM

No fan spin.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:22 PM

yeah for that you'll need need to connect the fan to power

so the wire coming from the fan has two connectors

https://i.imgur.com/6kkIuMKl.png

the one on the right is the unused one

that one goes to your mobo

it will say "chassis fan" or "system fan"

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 04:25 PM

Should I power down everything now to be safe?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 04:25 PM

yes

always shut down before connecting or disconnecting

and general tips -- try to wear shoes and ideally stand on something not carpet

touch something metal every once in a while

ideally a faucet in a sink

to ground yourself

nameloC 03-Dec-18 05:03 PM

Building this beast right now

Mark 03-Dec-18 05:04 PM

Holy crap that looks insane lol have fun!

nameloC 03-Dec-18 05:05 PM

Will do, thanks man

nameloC 03-Dec-18 05:52 PM

Dark rock 4 pro is insane

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 07:25 PM

is that a mini pc on top of your motherboard lol

nameloC 03-Dec-18 07:31 PM

The heatsink is so damn huge, wasn't expecting it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Dec-18 07:32 PM

that sucker could cool off 90's pamela anderson

you have anti-gpu sag installed?

nameloC 03-Dec-18 09:15 PM

nah, i noticed a bit of the sag. what's the go to remedy for it these days? a screw through the back, where the plate goes through the mobo?

josmoo 03-Dec-18 09:58 PM

Hey is anyone here? Need some advice

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:06 PM

I am. What do you need?

@josmoo

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:08 PM

Hey mark how’s it going

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:10 PM

Good. I'm up late cuz I got an insane physics test tomorrow haha. Happy to answer any questions though.

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:11 PM

I was looking at the holiday deal on CyberPowerPC https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Holiday-Special-I

Holiday Special I

Holiday Special I Intel® Core™ Processor i5-9600K 16GB 8GB DDR4/3000MHz RAM MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX Motherboard [Intel Optane Ready] 240GB WD Green SSD + 1TB HDD Combo Windows 10 Home

What do you think about it if I want to get into gaming and play FPS games like fortnite

Maybe not 4K but at least 1080

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:11 PM

Absolutely not haha, it's a good system but not for the price.

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:12 PM

Really?

Are there any new deals you would recommend? I’m looking for something g under 1k, and I don’t want to buy from Newegg

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:14 PM

Fair enough. This is the advice I give everyone who has a budget of around ~$1,000. The 1k range is just at the annoying spot where you aren't quite to the 1070+ cards but you'd be overpaying if you went for a 1060/RX 580 system.

Of course, I realize that it's a budget for a reason, so if you don't think you'll be able to spec the $150-250 needed you might as well save some money and get a system around $800.

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:16 PM

Interesting perspective

Thanks

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:17 PM

What about the SkyTech with a 2600 and 1070ti for $929?

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:18 PM

hold up, that's still at thing?

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:18 PM

Is that the Walmart one

I read so many bad things about Walmart computers I was afraid to buy it

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:19 PM

Well, Walmart has their own brand of gaming desktops that honestly suck ass. But the SkyTech one was a staple deal during Black Friday. Several people in this discord purchased that system. I thought it went out of stock though.

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:19 PM

Actually, they dropped the price even lower, $899 now

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:19 PM

BRUH WHAT

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:19 PM

https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Gaming-ArchAngel-Elite-AMD-Ryzen-2600-3-4-GHz-Nvidia-GeForce-1070-TI-8GB-8GB-DDR4-2400-MEMORY-500-GB-SSD-w-3D-NAND-650-Watts-Windows-10-Home-/569243217?u1=a7c20c14f72511e8bfe89edbf881296a0INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=42645714540691654998&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

SkyTech Gaming ArchAngel Elite AMD Ryzen 2600 3.4 GHz, Nvidia GeFo...

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Mark 03-Dec-18 10:20 PM

what in the world haha, Josmoo that's a really good deal if you want to consider it. (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:20 PM

I feel like I need to have a friend over to help me with cable management.

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:20 PM

8gb of ram but you can always upgrade dow the road, 8gb will get by for now

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:20 PM

This is true ^

Cable management is the worst lol, idk how people get their systems so clean.

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:21 PM

Did you see mine I just built tonight?

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:21 PM

You don’t think it’s going to crap out in a few months?

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:22 PM

Seems unlikely Josmoo. Skytech is a relatively good brand. And the parts that could potentially crap out are easily replaceable.

I think @nameloC is it the one with the 2080 and that fat ass cooler lol

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:23 PM

I managed to connect a fan.

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:24 PM

Lol yeah, I'm happy with it

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:24 PM

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:24 PM

Shawn, you having trouble with something?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:24 PM

Installing my case fans and LED strips as well as cable managing it all.

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:25 PM

Shawn has been living the struggle with his fans and case for a couple days now haha

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:25 PM

Is the back of the case not sufficient for stuffing wires?

josmoo 03-Dec-18 10:25 PM

Any idea if the Walmart one would support 4K

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:26 PM

Guaranteed.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:26 PM

Case panel already got dented. (edited)

And tell me if you’re able to connect and manage these comfortably:

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:26 PM

1070ti could run some games 4k,but 1440p is the sweet spot for resolution to be honest

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:27 PM

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:28 PM

I don't see the issue, smash the back panel on and call it a day, it doesn't have to be perfect, you can't see it

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:29 PM

How do I connect the fans and still be able to close the case?

Mark 03-Dec-18 10:34 PM

I mean, can you? If I remember correctly your case has a tempered glass side right? I have no idea how you'll be able to route the cords through without literally drilling a hole lol

nameloC 03-Dec-18 10:38 PM

I guess I don't understand, where is the fan installed at?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 10:39 PM

I want to install one fan at the top, and 2 in the front.

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:09 PM

Mount the fan controller and then run the cords to it, I'm sorry but maybe I'm not understanding the complication? Got any more pics?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 03-Dec-18 11:27 PM

This is the first desktop I’ve ever had in 7 years and I never, ever have opened one or done any modifications to a PC before.

@nameloC

nameloC 03-Dec-18 11:32 PM

Oh cool, good experience for you then

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:07 AM

@Shawn Matthias Howlsey you might have to mount the hubs on the inside of the case, not on on the backside panel

if the hubs are too thick, the side panel won't close correctly (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:19 AM

What is the black connector here?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:20 AM

4 pin molex

often used for case fans

but your fans don't have that type of connector

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:22 AM

Can I convert a molex to a SATA connector?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:27 AM

possibly, they do make adapters for them

do you know the model of your psu?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:28 AM

Thermaltake Smart series.

750w.

I just want an easier time hooking up everything.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:30 AM

based on the manual you either have 8 or 6 sata connectors

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:31 AM

And I need help finding them and cable managing everything.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:32 AM

1 sata is going to your ssd I believe

so that leaves 5 -- 3 for fans, 2 for the hubs

yeah it might be hard to do the cable management part

but it can be done

or sorry, for you fans you don't connect to sata

so really you just need 3

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:33 AM

Do I need to unplug every cable from the PSU?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:34 AM

what do you mean?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:35 AM

Disassemble the PSU and unplug all the cables to find the best SATA connector to use?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 08:36 AM

no of course not. so all sata connectors are on a single cable, maybe just disconnect all the sata connections (your ssd and hub)

stretch the cable out a bit and see how you can get everything connected

but i mean you only need 3 and you already have access to 2, can you not find a 3rd connector?

there should be 6 to 8 total

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 04-Dec-18 08:38 AM

The one connector I see prevents me from closing the panel if I connect the hub to that one.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Dec-18 10:17 AM

you miight need to connnect it from the other side. don't be too timid to move stuff around aggressively. the cables might be stiff but they'll move how you want them to

feel free to disconnect cables to help get stuff organized

just remember how it was all connected up so you don't forget

nameloC 04-Dec-18 10:23 AM

Shawn, don't be afraid to get in there and move things around like ToTimes said. Computers are resilient, your risk of breaking something is extremely low unless youre just grossly negligent. Find somewhere where your fan hub will fit, it doesn't need to be an official mounting spot or anything. i've mounted SSDs into random gaps with double sided tape... i think you are overthinking this

josmoo 04-Dec-18 06:23 PM

Hey can anyone recommend a good monitor for this? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292002.p?ref=8575135&loc=1b2be1f8f83311e8bf86a644d253a3840INT&acampID=1b2be1f8f83311e8bf86a644d253a3840INT&skuId=6292002

I don’t want to spend more than like $300

Littlepip 04-Dec-18 07:16 PM

I have a similar build, I have this monitor https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A0ZRR50/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just got it today, is good

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Dec-18 07:09 PM

hmm, we need more people active on the actual subreddit. a lot of unanswered questions :/.

also, hard to track which posts get solved on discord and no longer need to be addressed on reddit

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 05-Dec-18 08:10 PM

What if all posts were to be made only on the Discord?

Mark 06-Dec-18 06:20 AM

Then the subreddit serves no purpose.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Dec-18 08:08 AM

yeah not everyone is going to want to sign up for discord just to have a PC question answered

personally I'd rather help people through here, but I still feel like we need to keep the reddit active

and i'm afraid that if people go the reddit, see that no one is getting responses, they just won't bother posting

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 06-Dec-18 08:10 AM

I feel the Discord provides faster responses.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Dec-18 08:10 AM

yeah it does, it's much easier to work through here

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 06-Dec-18 08:10 AM

Unless there is someone actively watching the reddit for new posts.

Like refreshing the page every minute.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Dec-18 08:11 AM

well I don't think people necessarily care if the responses are realtime, but as someone providing advice it's easier to have to a dialogue

the automatic bot that points people to the discord is pretty clutch (edited)

so good work whoever set that up lol (edited)

Mark 06-Dec-18 12:38 PM

Alright what about this? Have a "answered"/"unanswered" flair that can be put on posts. Put in the AutoMod that you are much likelier to get a fast response if you join the discord. This next one might be slightly hard but perhaps there can be a reddit bot that puts reddit posts into discord, and then people can respond to it and have their responses automatically posted onto reddit.

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ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Dec-18 02:07 PM

great idea (edited)

josmoo 06-Dec-18 09:33 PM

Hey guys anyone here? I have a question about monitors

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 06-Dec-18 09:58 PM

I am.

josmoo 06-Dec-18 11:27 PM

Hey Shawn sorry I’m back now

@Shawn Matthias Howlsey do you know of any 4K 120hz monitor that’s reasonably priced

GodFather Doge 07-Dec-18 12:16 AM

There a site where I can just plug in part names and search for towers online that way? Made a huge wall of text to try and get help finding a decent tower for me but not sure if a lot of the people here saw it or not haha

maceR 07-Dec-18 04:37 AM

Hey everyone, so I’m planning a build. I haven’t kept up to date or PC gamed in a few years, but I just got the Sapphire RX580 Nitro+!! Looking to center a build around it... can someone help me? I’m looking to spend about $400-500 more after this GPU ($219)

ATX also plz

Mark 07-Dec-18 04:45 AM

Hey @maceR! I'm around if you need help

maceR 07-Dec-18 04:52 AM

Hello!! It’s almost 5AM here so I’m going to sleep lol I’ll chat as soon as I wake up though

I’ve been up all night deciding if I’m going to build a pc lol finally pulled the trigger

Mark 07-Dec-18 04:53 AM

Nice, what'd you end up getting?

maceR 07-Dec-18 04:53 AM

Sapphire RX580 Nitro+

Mark 07-Dec-18 04:54 AM

Holy crap the promo material for it look so cool lol

maceR 07-Dec-18 04:54 AM

lol I’ve read only good things about it I’m so excited

Mark 07-Dec-18 04:56 AM

Sounds like it'll be fun. I'm not sure about your crazy sleep schedule (it's 8am here o.o) but if you need me to help feel free to @ me. (edited)

maceR 07-Dec-18 04:56 AM

Sounds good!

schwags 07-Dec-18 01:50 PM

Anyone know some good monitors for around 150-300$ ???

Spartankitty 08-Dec-18 07:04 AM

Damn my pc is still not here

It said december 5th but then it got delayed

Now it says if its not here by jan 4th they will cancel the order

Not very happy about it

Since i got 400 dollars off

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 08-Dec-18 07:24 AM

That’s why shipping sucks.

Spartankitty 08-Dec-18 07:41 AM

Yeah

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Dec-18 09:49 AM

that sucks, was it the Omen?

schwags 08-Dec-18 12:37 PM

holiday season worst time to order online beside the prices

everything gets backed up

I did ups for one season and said fuck this

lol

AllHallowsHam 08-Dec-18 01:33 PM

Hi!

Can I ask for PC suggestions here? (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Dec-18 02:11 PM

yeah what's up

Infitalias00 08-Dec-18 03:38 PM

Original Ibuypower desktop with 6118.7 Passmark rating $200 less UserBenchmarks: Game 133%, Desk 105%, Work 107% CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 118.1% GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080 - 167.4% SSD: Adata Ultimate SU800 1TB - 109.9% RAM: Unknown 2x8GB - 83.5% MBD: Asrock Z370 IB-R New Skytech Desktop with 8417.8 passmark rating $200 more UserBenchmarks: Game 144%, Desk 164%, Work 140% CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K - 115.5% GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti - 165.4% SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 322.4% HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2016) - 112.7% RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 96% MBD: Asrock Z370 Killer SLI/ac deciding which to keep and which to send back, with the difference in scores I'd think the $200 difference is warranted? I should keep the skytech?

Infitalias00 08-Dec-18 03:45 PM

both i8700k, close in scores and I just did less OC on the skytech so will probably be same or better, 2080 vs 1080 ti also close in scores and I didnt OC the 1080 ti at all vs a little on the 2080, SSD better quality in skytech and more overall storage, plus have another 1tb 860 evo to put in either, ram is 3200 and better brand in skytech, only 2666 and no name in ibuypower, and think the MB is a little better in skytech? (edited)

AllHallowsHam 08-Dec-18 04:15 PM

Hi. This me: https://www.reddit.com/r/suggestapc/comments/a4esxv/suggestionus_game_development_800900_usd_xpost/ Please advise/ Give suggestions. Peferably $800-900 Suggest A Laptop gave me this as a contender.:https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWERED-Gaming-Laptop-15-2-Year-Warranty-144Hz-Intel-i7-8750H-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-Mechanical-LED-Keyboard-256-SSD-1TB-HDD-16GB-RAM-Windows-10/510869060 but open to alternatives that don't fit on a lap. (edited)

[Suggestion][US - Game Development -$800-900 USD] [X-Post] - Looki...

Hey! I've posted everything I'm looking for on /r/suggestalaptop , so figured I'd post that here too, since I'm also cool with a PC/tower:...

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Spartankitty 08-Dec-18 05:07 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo a cyberpower

Mark 08-Dec-18 05:28 PM

@AllHallowsHam Hey! So I've read through both your post on r/suggestalaptop as well as your post on r/suggestapc. Before I can really offer anything too specfic, I need to know: do you travel a lot/do you do most of your work on-the-go? I'll have a better answer for you if I know that, but that laptop looks like a pretty solid option. I want to also mention the Dell G5/Inspiron 7577 line of laptops as they both are budget and have very similar specs to the OVERPOWERED laptop you have linked.

AllHallowsHam 08-Dec-18 06:33 PM

@Mark Yes. The G5 and 7577 have been suggested, but I don't really want to deal with repasting and fan curves, so the OVERPOWERED was suggested, since it does pretty well cooling itself, and is supposedly higher grade in general (though mostly I want to avoid operating on any PC so early on, especially tiny lil laptops). I do travel more than I used to, but I tend to work from my desk at home and at least a good amount of work can be done from a lower spec laptop atm. So the answer is kinda sorta? I tend to travel when I can/know I won't need this or that, so I don't foresee it being an issue atm.

Mark 08-Dec-18 06:55 PM

Perfect! I haven't done much game development (unless light Unity counts) but I have some experience with CAD and especially animation/art and I would highly recommend having a central PC tower that is quite capable, and an additional laptop on the side for portability and productivity on the go. Unfortunately, this would stretch your budget a little so if you think you can make do without a more portable option, I would probably go with a PC tower. For reference I have a desktop at home + a microsoft surface pro on the go. (edited)

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 08:08 AM

Yeah. Not really looking to stretch my budget. If I had the time and the space I'd build a PC. Mostly I'm hoping getting a tower will afford me more specs and less overheating for less cost, than a laptop that is. (edited)

CAD is about as intense as anything, so that's a fine benchmark.

Anyways, looking for suggestions for a prebuilt tower.

Is this the place to ask for that or no?

NS SANDAL 09-Dec-18 09:45 AM

Hey, im looking for a gaming pc for fortnite rainbow and some other games. I was thinking of getting a nzxt prebuilt, my budget is 1200

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 09:56 AM

this is a good deal https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227872 @NS SANDAL

GodFather Doge 09-Dec-18 10:38 AM

Vrgames, Black ops 4 on high-medium, closed loop cooling and strong enough to output 144hz gsync with just a 1060-1070

Around 1100-1200 if possible

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 10:53 AM

see the above newegg link @GodFather Doge

NS SANDAL 09-Dec-18 11:50 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Whys that pc so cheap? Also do you think nzxt is good?

Littlepip 09-Dec-18 12:45 PM

its a sale, end in about 12 hours and I know you aint asking me but id trust them, not that i have any experience with em

NS SANDAL 09-Dec-18 12:46 PM

ok. Thanks @Littlepip

Littlepip 09-Dec-18 12:48 PM

also has a ryzen 7 2700x, which is a good cpu but slower than a i7 8700k

NS SANDAL 09-Dec-18 12:55 PM

is it faster than a i5 8400?

Littlepip 09-Dec-18 12:58 PM

yes

Mark 09-Dec-18 01:05 PM

@AllHallowsHam This is the best place to ask. My personal suggestion is to go with a tower rather than a laptop. However, currently I'm not actually sure if you can get anything significantly better than that OP laptop so if you think it's the right fit for you, go for it.

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 01:17 PM

Yup. All for considering a tower. But need suggestions to consider for said tower. (edited)

@Mark @ToTimesTwoIsToo ^ ?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 02:52 PM

@AllHallowsHam you live near a microcenter? (edited)

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 02:52 PM

yerp

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 02:55 PM

ok they have great PCs

let me see if I can find one

for dev I'd shoot for a ryzen 5, 7 or i7

and 16gb of ram

where do you live

what state

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 02:56 PM

VA

I'm mostly looking for performance and no over-heating. I don't need a Terabyte of memory ever, (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 03:02 PM

so do you need to play games or render 3d stuff?

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 03:05 PM

I'm a game dev, who works on the design side, so I don't need to model or exactly play at highest settings. I tend to work on things that don't need peak peak performance. in the first place, cus I work for mainly indies, although saying that 3d+partial optimization often equals the PC compensating the best it can. Anyways, I'm not seeking perfect frame rate or perfect render. I'm looking for a sizeable upgrade from my current laptop, which is from 2012, so, you know, easy to please in some ways. (edited)

For me I' be fine with medium settings, ok FPS, and so on, as long as the thing has enough specs to last a good amount of years and not overheat often.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 03:08 PM

here are some options

https://www.microcenter.com/product/488123/g500-desktop-computer

PowerSpec G500 Desktop Computer - Micro Center

https://www.microcenter.com/product/507160/g223-desktop-computer

PowerSpec G223 Desktop Computer - Micro Center

you might stretch for this one

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230368

actually instead of the last one, this would be better https://www.walmart.com/ip/CYBERPOWERPC-Gamer-Supreme-Liquid-Cool-SLC9108W-w-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-AMD-Radeon-RX-590-8GB-16GB-Memory-240GB-SSD-2TB-HDD-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-bit-G/299725698

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Supreme Liquid Cool SLC9108W w/ AMD Ryzen 7 270...

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but those might be out of range

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 03:11 PM

I thought liquid cooling was mostly a gimick?

How would you say these compare to this laptop? It's what /r/suggestalaptop ended up thinking of for the higher end: https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWERED-Gaming-Laptop-15-2-Year-Warranty-144Hz-Intel-i7-8750H-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-Mechanical-LED-Keyboard-256-SSD-1TB-HDD-16GB-RAM-Windows-10/510869060 (edited)

OVERPOWERED Gaming Laptop 15+, 2 Year Warranty, 144Hz, Intel i7-87...

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ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 03:17 PM

liquid cooling is not a gimmick, but it's a niche component that is useful for heavy overclocking

that is a pretty good laptop

that cpu is not quite as strong as the i7 8700

but it'd probably be preferable to the i5 8400

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 03:20 PM

Ah. Okay. No offense meant. I've got no real world experience with liquid cooling outside overhearing my more hardware oriented friends mention it in passing.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 03:20 PM

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8750H-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8400/m470418vs3939

UserBenchmark: Intel Core i5-8400 vs i7-8750H

Based on 92,011 user benchmarks for the Intel Core i5-8400 and the Core i7-8750H, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,143 CPUs.

raw benchmark comparison

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 03:24 PM

Doesn't this mean the i5 performs better? (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 03:24 PM

i5 probably has better single core performance

but only 6 threads

if you need threads the i7 mobile would be better

usually the people who benefit from more threads are video editors, people who render, audio engineers

also come compilers can utilize more threads

reducing compilation time

so kind of depends on your specific needs

if you anticipate doing heavy threaded work, the i7 mobile would outperform the i5

really any of the options, including the laptop, would probably be great for you

and all will be a significant boost from your current laptop

AllHallowsHam 09-Dec-18 03:28 PM

Yup

It's my first PC in forever

So I'm prolly overthinking it (edited)

Anything made recently is going to be a huge upgrade

I just don't want similar issues

And I've only ever heard bad things about gaming PCs/Laptops (edited)

So prolly a lil overly suspicious about getting one

Laptop people were also suggesting a Dell Inspiron 7567/7577

shrugs

I'm like, do I spend extra monies just so I can avoid repasting and fan curves?

Will I really encounter that much overheating without it?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Dec-18 11:35 PM

if you buy new you really shouldn't have to deal with overheating issues for a while

of course a few years in you might repaste and clean some fans

desktops tend to be better in this regard than laptops

GodFather Doge 10-Dec-18 04:59 AM

Also little late reply but reply none the less, that desktop is above my desired 1200 or less range :x haha

ContestOfNoobs 10-Dec-18 11:39 AM

Friends lookin for Best rtx 2080ti prebuilt?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 10-Dec-18 12:29 PM

any specific reason to go for the rtx 2080 ti over the 2080?

ContestOfNoobs 10-Dec-18 01:42 PM

Future proof?

Also seen this $1880 8700k/1080ti with -5% coupon. OMEN by HP Gaming Desktop Computer, Intel Core i7-8700K, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 16GB RAM, 2TB Hard Drive, 512GB SSD, Windows 10 (880-130, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0768M95WY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_G0TdCbD84FF07

Cheapest pre built with 2080ti is around 2500$ ish,

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 01:43 PM

if youre wanting to future proof a desktop, you might want an i9-9900k cpu as well

ContestOfNoobs 10-Dec-18 01:44 PM

Yea thats around 2800-3000$

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 03:35 PM

What FPS is considered good for running GTA V at max settings?

Infitalias00 10-Dec-18 04:37 PM

anyone familiar with/do alot of overclocking I could talk to?

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 04:38 PM

like 100fps above at 1080p @Shawn Matthias Howlsey

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 04:56 PM

1440p?

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 04:58 PM

Yes

heres a 2070 with 90 fps average at 1440p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP1z7g74eI0

Mundie Afterlife

GTA V RTX 2070 i7-8700k FPS TEST 1440p 4K

00:00 1440p 03:32 4K PC Specs: i7 8700k MSI Gaming Z RTX 2070 8GB GDDR 6 MB: Asrock z370 pro4 16GB DDR 4 ram @3200 CPU Cooler: Cryorig H7 EVGA 750w PSU

95ish average

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 06:09 PM

But do I set every possible setting at high?

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 06:13 PM

Idk

ToTimesTwoIsToo 10-Dec-18 06:18 PM

I would set everything to max, then scale back if you aren't getting the fps you want

Deleted User 10-Dec-18 06:55 PM

Damn buildapcsales sub is harsh

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 07:12 PM

I scaled everything to max except for SMAA,

And FPS is 75.

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 08:01 PM

Where

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 08:12 PM

Where what?

@Littlepip

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 08:13 PM

75 fps during action ?

Or like casual droving in vid

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 08:13 PM

I ran the benchmark.

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 08:14 PM

The one with the airplane?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 08:14 PM

At the options,

It gives you an option to start a benchmark.

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 08:15 PM

Yeah, did it have an airplane scene cause i never played gtav only seen vids

ToTimesTwoIsToo 10-Dec-18 08:16 PM

yeah benchmark has a jet

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 08:16 PM

the benchmark is more demanding than the regular game i believe, 75-80 sounds accurate for a 2080 is it?

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 10-Dec-18 08:17 PM

2080, yes.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 10-Dec-18 08:17 PM

as long as you are averaging 60fps + , you're good

Littlepip 10-Dec-18 08:22 PM

heres a 2080ti gta v benchmark, this is with an i7 6700k though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k51ZzcEUfi8

SudoPro

GTA: V Benchmark | RTX 2080 Ti 1440p 144hz

Running the Grand Theft Auto: V Benchmark with the RTX 2080 Ti on max settings in 1440p 144hz environment. System Specs: i7 6700K @ 4.2 Ghz 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz...

josmoo 10-Dec-18 08:50 PM

Hey can anyone tel me what you think about this https://slickdeals.net/f/12435313-cyberpowerpc-game-master-desktop-ryzen-7-2700x-16gb-ddr4-gtx-1070-ti-1099-99?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1 vs this https://slickdeals.net/f/12401416-ibuypower-i7-8700-rtx-2070-1tb-ssd-16gb-ram-1299-99?page=3#commentsSection

CyberPowerPC Game Master Desktop: Ryzen 7 2700X, 16GB DDR4, GTX 10...

ProcessorAMD Ryzen 7 2700X 8-Core Base Clock Speed3.7 GHz Maximum Boost Speed4.35 GHz L3 Cache16 MB ChipsetSocket: AM4 Type: AMD X370 Total Installed Memory16 GB Maximum Memory Capacity64 GB M ...

iBuyPower I7-8700, RTX 2070, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM $1299.99 12-04-2018

Gaming desktop includes: CPU: I7-8700 GPU: RTX 2070 Memory: 16GB 2666Mhz RAM (4 slots total - upgradable to 64GB) Storage: 1TB solid state drive PSU: Not listed ...

I bought the second one for 1299 but just saw the first which is $200 cheaper

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 11:52 AM

Wow that best buy deal

Mark 11-Dec-18 11:54 AM

No clue what's going on with it but it's crazy

I just asked a staff member and they said it was the right price for the PC even though the wbesite says otherwise

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:08 PM

Sorry about that @Infitalias00 didn't mean that in a bad way

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:09 PM

its fine

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:09 PM

What'd you end up going with instead of that pc? (edited)

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 12:10 PM

Any idea what motherboards in that pc mark

Is that built in wireless i see?

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:11 PM

a skytech with 8700k/1080ti, 3200 mem, and an ibuypower with 8700k/2080/2666 mem, spent the weekend overclocking/messing with both and went better on every test and benchmark and temps with the skytech, so returning that omen I never opened and this other bestbuy ibuypower this week

everything purchased start of november through like christmas has an extended return period of end of january instead of 14 days normal, so can really buy any computer from bestbuy and mess with it for weeks and still return

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:14 PM

Stocking, it definitely has built in wireless. I can't seem to find the motherboard info on best buy or HP's website so I'd assume its generic. I have an old HP Omen and it has generic motherboard.

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:15 PM

and yes it has wireless and bluetooth

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:16 PM

Oh yeah @Infitalias00 I'm stupid I forgot about entire Skytech vs iBuyPower thing a few days back haha. And geez so you ended up putting down like five grand for all three PCs huh

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:17 PM

yeah ha, I had 20k in savings so bought a few tvs and computers and other stuff to try out compare to keep what I liked and return rest

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 12:17 PM

20k in savings dayumn lol

I woulda gone with a 2080ti pc with i9 9900k

Johnny 11-Dec-18 12:18 PM

Jeez..5k on pcs...i question spending 300 for a new gpu

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:19 PM

Bruh 20k are you serious I struggle spend a few dollars on food lmao

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:19 PM

well I got a small inheritance from a distant family member passing away, just one of a dozen getting a piece in will, paid off some bills, picked up a few items during sales and leaving rest for now

getting 6k back from the 2 bestbuy returns and an amazon return this week, probably going to look to use that to get a different vehicle because I hate this jeep renegade

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:23 PM

new car and new PC phew haha

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:24 PM

and it seems whatever you buy whenever you buy it prices go down right after you do, like ive bought this 34" alienware monitor 3 times from amazon now because they wont price match their own price decreases lol, and since it costs nothing to return I just kept the best panel and returned the other 2 to save over $200

like damn if i had only purchased that omen to keep I'd be pissed it went down $250 now a week later randomly

whatever you get a better deal pops up

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 12:27 PM

Rememver kids. Always keep a spare 3 grand for these friggin good deals

Lol

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:27 PM

Yeah that's just how the PC market is. if you wait you'll never buy anything because prices will always drop. I've always just bought it at an acceptable price I could swallow and kept it at that lol And you right stocking lmao I wish I had 3k

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:27 PM

main reason I'm keeping the skytech besides the cpu performing better than the ibuypowers cpu, the 1080 ti performing better than that 2080, and the better memory is the case and cooling, keeping the skytech means not spending more to add all the same stuff in another prebuilt

the skytech had the best case of the 3 and came with more/bigger/better fans

think im just going to order a delidding kit and some liquid metal and do the cpu, add in another ssd, and maybe upgrade to a 2080 ti once its been around longer and whatever issues they are having are fixed and prices go down

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 12:32 PM

I think the issues with it are less common then what is being talked about but doesnt hurt to wait and see if there's improvements

Infitalias00 11-Dec-18 12:34 PM

yeah thats how it happened, sat on the money for months doing pcpartpicker and thinking about trying to build my own for first time, decided I just didnt want to risk it and to get a prebuilt during black friday/cyber deals and mess with it a bit at a time to learn stuff, was going for the 1499 omen since it was recommended, went to buybuy and that store was out, so just ordered it online, and walked buy and saw the ibuypower and guy talked about the extended return so picked that up because i wanted something to play games with until the omen came, then as soon as a i got home saw the skytech deal and got that, as soon as I got the skytech a better skytech deal showed up, but after buying 3 im done for now, just going to keep this one and do a few things to it, and next time im going to make a big change just built my own and reuse whatever parts, or just add on/rework this one (edited)

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 12:35 PM

lol

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 12:36 PM

@Mark you live in NC? I currently live in Durham

Mark 11-Dec-18 12:56 PM

Hell yeah! I'm right on the border of Cary and Apex.

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 12:58 PM

Hihi

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 12:58 PM

damn what are the chances lol

you work in the apex?

@AllHallowsHam hihi

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 12:59 PM

I have changed muh needs, and require some new suggestions.

Also hows NC? Visited a few times. Few friends there. (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:00 PM

NC is beautiful and everyone is cool

i've only been here for a year

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:03 PM

Anyways, how I'm feeling about PC things: Still want a laptop. Preferably in 400-600 range. Won't be hard, but has to be an actual upgrade from my current lap here: http://www.meetgadget.com/gadget/57593/Samsung+NP-QX411-W02UB Which I know won't be too hard. I think I'm going to essentially call this a general use PC and consider a performance machine for a later time. So what I'm mostly looking for is a general spec upgrade, but doesn't have to reach gaming laptop insanity. (edited)

Samsung NP-QX411-W02UB specs (Meet Gadget)

Full Samsung NP-QX411-W02UB specifications. The QX411 notebook combines style and performance to keep up with your busy lifestyle. The exterior is a sleek, streamlined aluminum and the interior is...

I have a friend who moved there about a year ago too.

I've only heard good things.

Although I once had a very gross meal there.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:04 PM

haha

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:04 PM

But that can happen anywhere.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:05 PM

so i'm still unclear, you are looking for a laptop or desktop?

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:05 PM

Laptop

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:05 PM

gotcha

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:05 PM

I'm open to a desktop if you happen to find a thing, but laptop is my priority.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:06 PM

so zero gaming?

Frank 11-Dec-18 01:06 PM

yo guys, im helping my friend in the US pick a prebuilt desktop pc. What webstores do you recommend? i'm not US native, so i dont know where you guys buy PCs

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:06 PM

bestbuy, walmart, newegg, bhphoto

amazon

tigerdirect

Frank 11-Dec-18 01:07 PM

do they have guarantees and stuff, so you can send it back if there are any problems with em?

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:07 PM

There will be gaming. But assume I'm playing on low to medium settings and on games that aren't graphic intensive. Preferably it can play most everything at least on low, but yeah, understand that won't be true for every game.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:11 PM

@Frank most have good 30 day full refund policies

@AllHallowsHam can you give me an example of a game? maybe the most demanding game you'd like to attempt?

are we talking 1998 starcraft or 2018 battlefield 5

Frank 11-Dec-18 01:12 PM

nice! here in Norway, on our most popular prebuilt sites they have a 12 month "protection", if anything happens with your PC you can just send them back, and they fix it for you

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:13 PM

Hmmmm. Sure. One sec.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:13 PM

some might have extended protection as well, but will be manufacturer specific

cyberpowerpc and ibuypowerpc are two very popular gaming prebuilt companies

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:14 PM

Something like this: https://store.steampowered.com/app/355860/Albino_Lullaby_Episode_1/

Albino Lullaby: Episode 1

Albino Lullaby is a horror adventure game that doesn't rely on jump scares or gore. A Lynchian psychological nightmare where you play as yourself. Escape from a dark and surreal Victorian town that clings to the precipices of underground cliffs. The gamespace dynamically twis...

Price

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Recommendations

215

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:15 PM

lol that was oddly specific

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:15 PM

Yup

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:15 PM

gotcha

looks simple enough

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:15 PM

Definitely not going to be doing COD or anything like that. No twitch accuracy obsession. (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:17 PM

maybe something like this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834846150&ignorebbr=1

decent cpu, decent gpu

also, you might get a second opinion through suggestalaptop https://discord.gg/G6nPWv (edited)

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:19 PM

Yeah. I've been working with them too.

They're just much more impassioned about me spending 1k on something great.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:20 PM

eh

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:20 PM

And I've decided to lower my needs and budget.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:20 PM

there should be decent options in the 400-600 range

just stick with 8th gen i5 or i7, try to snag a gtx 1050 at least

8gb of RAM

you'll be set (edited)

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:22 PM

Hmmm. K. Thanks. I'll ppop around Newegg and see what else they got

Mark 11-Dec-18 01:28 PM

What a coincidence, nah I'm still a senior don't have a job yet ahaha (edited)

The snow this year came early

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:28 PM

gotcha. Yeah duke was cancelled yesterday so didn't have to come to work

Mark 11-Dec-18 01:29 PM

Damn you work at Duke?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:29 PM

yeah i work as a research technician in a neuroscience lab

Mark 11-Dec-18 01:30 PM

Holy shit wth that's awesome

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:31 PM

yeah man it's sweet, learning a lot here

Mark 11-Dec-18 01:31 PM

I was looking actually Duke actually the campus is very

Traditional

But the tuition is insane

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:32 PM

eh yah I wouldn't pay to come here. it's nice but there are cheaper ways to get a good education

what you are currently studying

Mark 11-Dec-18 01:33 PM

I'm going into comp sci bs rn

If I went for Duke I would've done business tbh

Mad money

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:35 PM

so you are nc state student?

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:36 PM

https://www.microcenter.com/product/510721/gf63-156-gaming-laptop-computer---black

MSI GF63 15.6

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:36 PM

you can still do business as a career -- having a good tech background helps in so many areas

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:36 PM

How's this?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:37 PM

looks pretty solid, although very similar to the one I linked

256gb enough storage for you?

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:38 PM

Yeep

I've never never needed 1TB

Most of my work ends up in VCS and other cloud stuff (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:39 PM

yeah looks pretty good to me

reasonable price it seems

should offer a sizable upgrade over your older laptop

Mark 11-Dec-18 01:43 PM

Ah, my bad. Im still in HS. I'm looking into UNC chapel as t he tuition is cheap and I have bit more options over NC State. I would be pretty happy with ncstate though

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 01:44 PM

ah gotcha, awesome man. yeah both of those schools seem really strong.

if you are ever having trouble filling out extracurriculars on applications, be sure to mention this one. it will look unique and good

"this one" as in suggestapc

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 01:53 PM

Bah. I am bad at making choices. Wanna give me your feedback in comparing your first recc - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834846150&ignorebbr=1 to this - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834846011&Description=gtx%201050&cm_re=gtx_1050-_-34-846-011-_-Product (edited)

?

I know the Ti is prolly stronger, but otherwise, seem the same?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 02:01 PM

yeah but i'm not seeing any reason to get the second one, especially since it's a refurbished

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 02:04 PM

Refurbished is bad?

Because it means it was used or? (edited)

Littlepip 11-Dec-18 02:05 PM

Yes

/returned

so maybe they didnt even touch it, or maybe they used it for a yr

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 02:06 PM

Ah.

Found one for 615 on Outlet: https://outlet.us.dell.com/ArbOnlineSales/Online/SecondaryInventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh&sign=PXhcOSHtr1T4IOw%2fPR7Ude6Bt3kBnLFNGtViUcN1C%2bjfX5oMWtB0wtzo1EKexmtNo2GgBdoY1qOoZNOQqd2nOpBeSIVUPe%2fRTr%2bzl9LV9g4uc7ZW%2fMyiOnLXrEkIKRRYmjOYXPR8oV4BSq58uVsLNY0y%2fcDALMwHLPv7Oz00Kr2asVal7AfitoU3GTiV7xqFg%2fttzy1sQA241rDULWwyGA%3d%3d

Just says scratch and dent. Should be alright, yeah?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 02:25 PM

yeah, but I don't understand you've listed two brand new ones, with better GPU, for the same price. why not get either of those?

well, i guess not the same price

so you want something closer to 600?

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 02:26 PM

If that's possible. Outlet seems to have a coupon code for gaming laptops as well

12% off

shrugs (edited)

Ah. Fuck it. Going for the 650 one. Tis new, warranty, and nice.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 02:37 PM

there ya go. I think an extra 40-50 for new and warranty is worth it

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 02:42 PM

You wouldn't happen to know any newegg promo codes would ye?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 02:45 PM

i don't, no (edited)

AllHallowsHam 11-Dec-18 02:52 PM

Iz kewl

Did it anyway

3

Mark 11-Dec-18 04:25 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo You reckon putting this on extracurriculars is a good thing? I've already applied early action is it's a bit late for that but I might need it once I start looking into internships and the such.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Dec-18 04:50 PM

yeah, can't hurt. most likely will impress

"Help manage and contribute to a a community-driven tech consulting initiative"

sounds fancy

josmoo 12-Dec-18 01:00 AM

LOL

So funny. Stretching extracurriculars never ends. People do it for getting into Med school, then for getting into residency

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Dec-18 05:55 AM

hah, I can help you lie and say you're the owner of the sub and server @Mark

ride it

Mark 12-Dec-18 08:25 AM

haha if the need ever arises I'll take you up on that offer. Thanks lol

ReddishRabbit 12-Dec-18 08:52 AM

bout to start building my desktop

let's see how much i can squeeze outa $2k

Mark 12-Dec-18 08:55 AM

Good luck! What do you have in mind?

ReddishRabbit 12-Dec-18 08:57 AM

well, amd ryzen cpu, prob just a ryzen 7

have any idea if the new threa rippers are worth that hefty price tag?

thead*

anAlius 12-Dec-18 09:00 AM

Depends what you’ll use them for

The only problem is the cost of the mother boards to go with them

ToTimesTwoIsToo 12-Dec-18 10:05 AM

for gaming, threadripper is not necessary

only useful in very thready heavy applications like video rendering

or just servers in general

ToTimesTwoIsToo 12-Dec-18 08:46 PM

seems reasonable

but overall hard to recommend an rtx 2080 ti unless you are dead set on 4K gaming ultra settings 60fps

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 12-Dec-18 09:40 PM

RTX 2080 and below are good for 1080p/1440p,

But 4K, you would best benefit from 2080 Ti.

howlshot 13-Dec-18 07:12 PM

that best buy deal is def good

online open box is still more than that pic

Mark 13-Dec-18 07:24 PM

Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a deal that's everywhere. It was in both of the Best Buys that are local to my area though. If I had a grand I would've bought it haha

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 14-Dec-18 07:53 AM

does it seem like there won't be many more deals till maybe after Christmas? I think I waited too long (looking for a $700-$800 ish gaming pc)

Mark 14-Dec-18 08:21 AM

There'll probably be some more sales on Christmas. Hindsight is 20/20 but you probably should've bought on Black Friday.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Dec-18 08:24 AM

this is a pretty solid deal https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Shadow-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-3G-500GB-SSD-8GB-DDR4-500-Watt-80-Plus-Power-Supply-Windows-10-Home-VR-Ready-G/494472235

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even compared to BF

Mark 14-Dec-18 08:56 AM

I'm honestly surprised that is still around.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Dec-18 08:57 AM

yeah me too, figured it would have sold out by now or bumped up $100

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 14-Dec-18 09:13 AM

thanks, I know I should have bought on BF but I tend to go back and forth and second guess. I can currently play my game on my laptop so I haven't felt like I had to jump on something. That one looks good. Thanks for posting. Is the 3Gb graphic processor going to be good for most things? I mainly play Elder Scrolls Online but kids like Fortnight and other games might come up in the future.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Dec-18 09:14 AM

3gb of VRAM should be fine for a while longer, yes. There might be a few titles where you have to drop textures from Ultra to Highest

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 14-Dec-18 09:17 AM

the review says there is an optical drive but I don't see anything in the specs.

Also, the people that answer questions on this forum for us who know nothing are the best

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Dec-18 09:20 AM

i'd be surprised if it has an optical drive

they are considered old tech by now

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 14-Dec-18 09:21 AM

that is what I thought, weird that the review mentions it.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Dec-18 09:23 AM

hmmm, I mean it might

you can always add one pretty easily, so I wouldn't let it be a huge deciding factor

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Keith 14-Dec-18 06:44 PM

hello

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 15-Dec-18 09:04 AM

I am anxious and excited, I went ahead and ordered the above recommended Wallmart Skytech as it looks great for someone on a budget. Now, I know there are some considerations for monitors. Any tips on what I need to look for?

Keith 15-Dec-18 10:51 AM

Budget? Pref size? Use?

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 15-Dec-18 11:07 AM

I play an online game, Elder Scrolls Online, I suppose we would play other games too. The budget is low, could I do anything for $250 ish? Or is that ridiculous? Size? I'm open to recommendations. (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Dec-18 12:12 PM

@Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) that skytech will work best with a 1080p monitor

I recommend getting a 60hz IPS monitor, can be had for as low as 150 dollars

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Keith 15-Dec-18 12:21 PM

I'm a fan of Dell monitors because the stands are Rock solid and adjustments are nice

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Dec-18 12:50 PM

I agree Dell monitors are really good

Keith 15-Dec-18 01:04 PM

At work my current one is a tilt only and kills my neck, whereas my Dell at home has height, tilt, swivel, and rotate full 90degrees

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 15-Dec-18 01:27 PM

thanks, I'll keep that in mind

Littlepip 15-Dec-18 02:24 PM

i have an old dell monitor, used it for 10 yrs , still works and no issues

switched recently though

Infitalias00 15-Dec-18 02:44 PM

I guess Im going to order that walmart skytech deal since its only 2099 and Im already at 2703.61 putting the main parts in pcpartpicker without taxes (edited)

the skytech I already got has performed great and came as advertised, this one has a 2080 ti instead of 1080 ti, 9700k instead of a 8700k, same 3200 16gb memory and similar cooling, lol makes this the 4th damn computer ive bought since black friday, will see how it performs and then keep the best and return other

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Infitalias00 15-Dec-18 05:00 PM

Went with the 9900k version

Keith 15-Dec-18 05:47 PM

Fancy

RAM 16-Dec-18 03:56 PM

Hi can anyone recommend a pc for my daughter she is 11 budget is $300-$400 possibly a complete set with monitor.

Mark 16-Dec-18 03:58 PM

Would you need it to play any games? Or would this be strictly just for internet etc.

RAM 16-Dec-18 03:59 PM

Just mainly for browsing and doing her homework.

Mark 16-Dec-18 07:09 PM

Sorry for the late response @RAM! This is one of those times I'm actually going to recommend heading over to your local big box retailer and taking a look at their selections. The only way you'll be able to purchase anything in that price range with a monitor online would be if you went with some refurbished computer. This (https://www.amazon.com/Acer-TC-885-ACCFLi3-Desktop-i3-8100-802-11ac/dp/B07CYF9YGF/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1545016084&sr=1-2&keywords=desktop&refinements=p_36%3A2421880011) is one of the cheapest modern new desktops I could find on Amazon. You'll definitely go over budget if you factor in a monitor with that cost. If you live near a Micro Center, I'd recommend heading there first. If not, Best Buy will do fine. (edited)

A decent monitor shouldn't run you much over $120. You could get something nicer for more money but then I'd recommend spec'ing for a more power computer. Good luck and feel free to message me if you have any questions.

RAM 16-Dec-18 07:11 PM

Thanks for the recommendation and will do!

skkrrtt 17-Dec-18 02:42 AM

Anyone on atm?

Mark 17-Dec-18 05:22 AM

I am @NMJK ツ#8268

Why do people join for like 2 hours and leave holy crap.

Nevermind he was here for a total of 3 minutes.

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 17-Dec-18 03:55 PM

Second guessing myself a bit... should I have spent a little more and gotten this skytech instead of the above? https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Gaming-Shadow-Mini-AMD-Ryzen-2600-3-4-GHz-RADEON-RX580-4GB-8GB-DDR4-2400-MEMORY-500-GB-SSD-w-3D-NAND-500-Watts-Windows-10-Home-64-bit-RED/683614599?athcpid=683614599&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVAV&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020&athguid=8c174204-1cc-167be539c7d078&athena=true

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Johnny 17-Dec-18 04:10 PM

Both are good options and perform around the same range. The 1060 is a bit faster on dx11 and the 580 on dx12 titles, on synthetic benchmarks. But with the 580, you save on FreeSync and get the extra vRAM.

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 17-Dec-18 04:28 PM

thanks, I knew from some advice (probably here) that the 4gb vRAM was good to shoot for.

But if they are fairly comparable and I could someday replace the video card if needed, that would be an option right?

I know it's not that expensive of a computer to deliberate over, but as a parent I can't be extravagant and spend double this amount

Johnny 17-Dec-18 04:40 PM

yep, imo I wouldn't spend the extra $60 to get a 580, considering the other specs are the same

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Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 17-Dec-18 04:50 PM

thank you

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Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 17-Dec-18 05:01 PM

This is the monitor I am thinking of getting: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-24-ips-led-fhd-freesync-monitor-black/5770302.p?skuId=5770302&ref=212&loc=1&&gclid=CjwKCAiAjNjgBRAgEiwAGLlf2oOCmIG4eHerGynvracn9jSVgm97HkgDzOnpj9wqh3U-bBg9yEVNCRoCY08QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Looks like a good deal.

Any problems I might not be aware of with my PC?

I don't think the screen is adjustable (like he height and tilt) and I'd need speakers. Those were the only draw backs I could see.

Johnny 17-Dec-18 05:42 PM

Im not too knowledgeable about monitors, but as far as the pc, your gtx 1060 should be able to handle 1080p gaming no problem

its only 75 hz , however, 144 hertz is a standard nowadays, but if it's only casual games and other programs, then the monitor you listed should be fine (edited)

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 17-Dec-18 06:33 PM

Ok, it's ESO, an online MMRPG type game, I think people would be playing some other games as well, my son plays a few but I don't think they are very intensive. I've always wanted to try the Witcher games. (edited)

Johnny 17-Dec-18 07:30 PM

assuming your're not playing any e-sport games or competetively, that monitor will be fine. You will be able to turn to high-ultra settings and consistently get 60+ frames (on those games) (edited)

DrunkHoboBoy 17-Dec-18 09:19 PM

I’m tilted by the lack of good gaming pc deals

Infitalias00 17-Dec-18 09:47 PM

@DrunkHoboBoy really? ive seen lots of deals, what are you looking for/price range and not finding? (edited)

every deal I've tried out so far has been hundreds under the actual cost of even purchasing the components yourself/from lowest merchants on pcpartpicker, as opposed to paying any kind of premium for assembly like usual (edited)

don't think I could be happier once this PC shows up friday, deals popping up everyday where companies are pretty much paying you to take their prebuilts with asking prices less than even the components are worth, crazy

order of deals I bought/tried/returning: HP Omen was 1499 for about 1800 in parts, even went down as low as 1250 later on, everything was as advertised and worked great, next was an ibuypower for 1699 for about 2100 in parts, all good as well, next was a skytech for 2199 that had about 2600 in parts, great as well, to top it all off was this other skytech for 2299 with over 3100 in parts, literally over 900 off the cost of ordering the parts yourself, hell even if they just shipped it not even put together that would be an incredible deal, let alone it coming assembled with 4 year warranty including spills and drops ha (edited)

maceR 18-Dec-18 10:07 AM

Guys I need help plz

So I just finished my build last night... booted it up and tried to boot from my flash drive with the iso windows 10 file but it wasn’t working. I had it as an exfat file type and I think that’s why it wasn’t working... so this morning i reformatted it to fat32, but you can only add 4gb to a fat32 drive. My windows files are 5.06gb. Can someone help me plz

I’m on a Mac and can’t use something like Rufus. I just need to know how to get my windows files (that are larger than 4gb) on to the flash drive, bc it was not working when I had it formatted as an exfat drive

Mark 18-Dec-18 10:54 AM

exFAT is usually what I'd recommend but if it doesn't work you only really have NTFS. The problem is, you have a mac which can't write to NTFS. Do you have another machine perhaps?

You might need to borrow a friend's computer @maceR

maceR 18-Dec-18 11:01 AM

No I do not

Shit that sucks, I’ll try a workaround.

Are there any downsides to booting with windows 8 and upgrading to 10? As opposed to a clean install of just windows 10

Bc the windows 8 iso would fit

Mark 18-Dec-18 11:11 AM

Not that big of deal. I personally wouldn't because it would bother me knowing there could be leftover files from Windows 8, I don't know if that's actually the case though. The easiest way would still definitely be to borrow a friends a computer, if that's an option.

maceR 18-Dec-18 11:14 AM

Okay thank you, I’ll ask around

Wait... so my solution if I can borrow a friends pc is that I’ll use it as an NTFS file right? Do mobos that accept fat32 usually accept the NTFS format

maceR 18-Dec-18 11:24 AM

Woooh!!!!!!!!! Just found a solution

So you can bypass the 4gb file limit for fat32 on a Mac if you use terminal and command prompts to download the iso file on to the flash drive!!!!!

maceR 18-Dec-18 11:35 AM

Nvm... lul

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Dec-18 11:42 AM

can't you use exfat instead?

maceR 18-Dec-18 11:49 AM

No, not all mobos support it

I was able to convert the drive to NTFS on Mac though with a third party software.... copying the iso files rn, hopefully it works on my pc

Nick L 18-Dec-18 08:17 PM

If anyone has time I would really appreciate a review of this build and some suggestions. I want a powerful gaming computer and I am willing to pay the price, but if I have made any mistakes here that are costing me a lot of money I would love to know about them. Also, if anyone saw a component/a set of components that I could swap out that would make the build drastically cheaper with a minor loss in performance I would love to consider that as well. I considered downgrading the GPU and CPU as they are the most expensive components but I am stuck with the idea that I know I will want to upgrade them in the future if the performance of the machine is not up to my expectations and I don't want to buy cheaper components only to quickly upgrade... and this is where your advice would come into play. I don't know how much performance I am realistically sacrificing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hrvcvn

maceR 18-Dec-18 08:23 PM

If you’re just going to be gaming. You don’t need that high end of a CPU

Nick L 18-Dec-18 08:24 PM

Ok so maybe step down to the Intel Core i7-8700K 6-Core 3.7 GHz

Littlepip 18-Dec-18 08:26 PM

you could get a prebuilt pc with the new 2080Ti graphics card at like 2500

Nick L 18-Dec-18 08:28 PM

"MSI GEFORCE RTX™ 2080 Ventus"

It has to specifically say Ti doesnt it

Can you link me to one as an example?

https://www.letsbld.com/promo/holiday

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I found this one

Littlepip 18-Dec-18 08:30 PM

yes, itd need Ti in it

2080 is different then 2080ti, one sec

https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Version-Gaming-Computer-Optimized/dp/B07KDM7YWQ/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1545193820&sr=8-11&keywords=2080ti+desktop

lol

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Supreme-SLC9000CPG-i7-8700K-802-11AC/dp/B07GG3W4LG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1545193820&sr=8-3&keywords=2080ti+desktop

Nick L 18-Dec-18 08:32 PM

Very cool, thank you very much for those links!

That cyberpower one is very powerful

Littlepip 18-Dec-18 08:33 PM

performance wise theyd be the same , id get the cyberpower one since it has more storage overall though

oh woops

the skytech has a slightly better proccessor but less built in storage

very very slightly better

it has space for 2 extra hard drives though

based off a question asked in the faq

cyberpower pc has 32 gb of ram (speed unknown other than ddr4) that wouldnt affect performance though (edited)

if i had to pick, id pick the one that doesnt charge sales tax lol, last time i bought from skytech i didnt need to pay that

Infitalias00 18-Dec-18 09:31 PM

@Littlepip I picked this up other day, think that's best deal ive seen so far, even just main parts in pc partpicker was at 3000, saved a ton on the parts alone, and the warranty from walmart is cheap compared to bestbuy and includes accidents/drops/spills

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better than similar priced deals, 9900k, 2080 ti, 3200 ram, 360 mm aio, 1 tb nvme ssd, extra fans instead of 2400 ram, or 120 mm aios and stuff (price was only 2299 when i grabbed it, shot up to 2778 today!) (edited)

Littlepip 18-Dec-18 09:37 PM

oh ye for sure

thats an amazing price

outta stock atm though it seems

Infitalias00 18-Dec-18 09:38 PM

yeah they didnt have many in stock, was only up for like 2 hours, glad I happended across it, gets here tomorrow

going to send this other skytech i got last week back, it arrived days late anyway, but even if they charge me restocking fee gaining much more in value

maceR 19-Dec-18 01:54 AM

@Infitalias00 what games would you even play on that tank

What games requires that high of specs

Johnny 19-Dec-18 03:49 AM

Origins at 4k 60 fps

Infitalias00 19-Dec-18 07:51 AM

just seemed worth getting with such a big discount on actual cost of components, as opposed to people on reddit paying for things like this http://ironsidepc.net/havoc-ultra-gaming-pc-free-27-asus-rog-swift-monitor-or-2-tb-ssd-with-purchase/ which just seems ridiculous ha, who needs 64 gb of ram and the guy seemed happy to be paying the actual cost of the compents or more, I mean its better than paying MORE than components are even worth like in an alienware, but I was just happy paying so much less than even components worth, I wouldnt have bought the PC at 3000 even with that being basically at cost (edited)

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Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 19-Dec-18 10:53 AM

If I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3G I don't have to worry about getting a monitor with G-sync? They are so expensive! Seems like the AMD cards are a better deal because they use the freesync technology. I'm just learning about this now, lol

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 19-Dec-18 11:14 AM

Or I guess I can just use Freesync with the Nvidia and forget about Gsync?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Dec-18 12:02 PM

freesync only works with amd cards

adaptive sync in general is a luxury and certainly isn't required dependings on your gaming preferences

for example, some people aren't bothered with screen tearing

Infitalias00 19-Dec-18 01:22 PM

damn glad i grabbed that computer while I did, price went up to 2778 today

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 19-Dec-18 09:51 PM

What are things you can do with the NZXT Internal USB Hub?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 08:33 AM

allows you to connect more fans, and anything that requires usb connectors

led lights, etc

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 08:54 AM

So it’s very useful?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo can you connect fans to it?

Wondering if I could connect my LL120 fans to it.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 09:07 AM

yeah although I think corsair makes something similar

might work better for the ll120

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 09:11 AM

I still need help with fans.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 09:34 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo what are other useful things to buy for a PC?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 09:36 AM

video games

in the end, isn't that the point

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 09:36 AM

How can I connect an LL120 fan to the USB hub?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

What exact cable do I need?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 09:40 AM

your ll120 fans can just plug directly into the hub

so you plug the hub into your mobo, and then you plug your fans into the hub directly

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 09:41 AM

What is the best kit for ambient lighting?

I’m torn between NZXT Hue 2 Ambient and the Asus ROG Terminal, or are there others?

NZXT’s CAM software is crap though.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 09:50 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo I meant like accessories for the PC itself, to like make adding things or general maintenance, upgrades, modifications, etc. easier.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 09:51 AM

I'm not aware of any such thing. Minimalism is probably the best route to keep things easy to update and maintain. Adding stuff just complicates things and gets in the way

that is why modular PSUs are so great -- it removes unneeded material

it's like asking, what can I add to a cardboard box to make it easier to store stuff in it -- well, you probably don't want to add anything

keep it open and free

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 10:05 AM

Ah.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 10:10 AM

honestly all you really need for a pc is a smallish screw driver and some canned air. For reapplying thermal paste you'll need some 99% isopropyl alcohol and some Q-tips. For cable management you just need some zip ties. In my opinion everything else is fluff and unnecessary. But then again I don't ever use nice glass cases. Maybe there are some things out there to make the internals looks a little neater

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 10:32 AM

What do I need to clean a mechanical keyboard, @ToTimesTwoIsToo?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Dec-18 11:10 AM

you might invest and get a key removal tool

it helps to pop the keys out

then what I do is turn it upside down, pat the back side to get most of the debris off. Then I just use q-tips or paper towels to remove the rest (edited)

I would avoid using canned air on the keyboard because it might just push the debris into the corners and crevasses even more

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 08:03 PM

I’m thinking of buying pudding keycaps to make my RGB keyboard even better.

Johnny 20-Dec-18 08:27 PM

like vanilla or chocolate

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 20-Dec-18 10:22 PM

Pudding keycaps are translucent keycaps.

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 21-Dec-18 02:23 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo how do you install LED strips outside of the PC?

Calopteryx 22-Dec-18 03:31 AM

So I just received my custom prebuilt PC (thanks for the advice @ToTimesTwoIsToo ) and I was really excited. But those clowns didn't include a power supply cable and built in the wrong RAM. So now instead of the Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3000mhz I got a single channel(wtf?) Team Vulcan 16GB 2400mhz, great. Hopefully they send me the cable and correct RAM, but the whole thing probably won't be resolved until the new year. I'm really pissed right now...

Infitalias00 22-Dec-18 07:08 AM

@Calopteryx where did you order it from/what brand was it? (edited)

Calopteryx 22-Dec-18 07:29 AM

Memory PC, a German company. I had heard good things about them and only read positive reviews before ordering, so I'm really disappointed by the product I received.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Dec-18 08:14 AM

@Calopteryx ah damn sorry to hear that man. That is a bummer

those power cables should be pretty standard -- you might be able to just pick one up temporarily at a local electronics store so that you can actually start setting up and using your pc (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 22-Dec-18 09:04 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo how do you install LED strips outside of a PC?

Infitalias00 22-Dec-18 10:17 AM

same as you would inside? attach them via their adhesive/double sided tape as you would inside, and just have to find how to route the cable inside the case and hook up like you would inside

I mean really, probably even simpler depending on what you want, many USB LED strip options people commonly use for bias/backlighting on televisions powered by USB ports on TV, easy solution if you dont want to or cant attach more to your MB/hubs

For example, just usb leds (just plugged in set to show quick lol, not actually using/why its just a random string), extra set I had from putting backlighting on my tv

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 22-Dec-18 10:30 AM

I just want to have like underglow on my PC.

Infitalias00 22-Dec-18 10:54 AM

so can either get a usb lighting string, put into usb and apply it to underside, or get one that pugs into your MB/Hubs/controllers (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 22-Dec-18 10:56 AM

Is there a way to convert a 9 pin USB header into a standard USB header that can connect to an external USB port?

Hazey 23-Dec-18 09:57 PM

yo

AllHallowsHam 24-Dec-18 05:54 PM

Hiya. Anyone want a suggest a laptop between 200-400 with a good cpu and good storage (prefarably a SSD)?

Not expecting top of the line.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 24-Dec-18 05:59 PM

https://discord.gg/6TXQe3

AllHallowsHam 24-Dec-18 06:06 PM

I asked there too.

No response thus far.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 24-Dec-18 06:18 PM

this seems promising https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-i3-8130U-Memory-E5-576-392H/dp/B079TGL2BZ?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAIPHVZTVH6LZ5BFZA&tag=hawk-future-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B079TGL2BZ&ascsubtag=laptopmag-6245441114964468213-20

maybe get a second opinion if you can

some walmarts are selling these for 300 https://slickdeals.net/f/12477538-ymmv-walmart-b-m-huawei-matebook-d-signature-edition-14-ips-fhd-touch-amd-ryzen-5-2500u-8gb-ram-256gb-ssd-radeon-vega-8-graphics-win-10-home-64-bit-299?src=catpagev2

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AllHallowsHam 24-Dec-18 06:24 PM

hmmm

Unpredictable 25-Dec-18 01:25 AM

Can anyone help me with a problem I’m having?

Onemanarmy 25-Dec-18 05:10 AM

help

Unpredictable 25-Dec-18 05:16 AM

Exactly how I feel rn

Onemanarmy 25-Dec-18 05:19 AM

it turns on lol

Unpredictable 25-Dec-18 05:23 AM

I’m stuck trying to figure out which slots these things go to

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 25-Dec-18 08:49 AM

@Unpredictable what do the connectors look like?

Unpredictable 25-Dec-18 09:05 AM

Done it now, I’m installing the graphics card

Unpredictable 25-Dec-18 09:55 AM

Bollocks!! Got all the way to the end of my build and the HD is blocking me from putting the side panel on

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Dec-18 11:42 AM

is it ssd?

or hdd

Fraser 25-Dec-18 07:44 PM

here

i have a dilemma

do i get an htc vive

or do I get a new monitor

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 25-Dec-18 10:16 PM

@Fraser what is your current monitor like?

Fraser 26-Dec-18 08:08 AM

27inch 1080p 60hz

pretty happy with it

no major complaints

usually use 2 monitors but desk won't allow it currently

Unpredictable 26-Dec-18 08:31 AM

Guys Idk what to do my HDD isn’t showing up (edited)

Shawn Matthias Howlsey 26-Dec-18 09:46 AM

@Unpredictable is the SATA cables plugged in?

Unpredictable 26-Dec-18 01:11 PM

Got some help from a mate it was a format issue

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Dec-18 09:31 AM

prebuilt prices kind of suck at the moment

not sure what is up with that (edited)

everything is $100 more than it was a month ago

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Dec-18 09:41 AM

rtx 2060 will release in a few weeks https://videocardz.com/79485/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-pictured-launches-january-7th

WhyCry

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should help flesh out the ~$1000-1100 prebuilt market

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 29-Dec-18 08:50 AM

Just wanted to report to @ToTimesTwoIsToo that I received my Walmart SkyTech Shadow Gaming Desktop AMD Ryzen 5 2600, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3G, 500GB SSD, 8GB DDR4, 500 Watt 80 Plus Power Supply, and it is working great! It is running my game on Ultra. I ended up getting an additional 10% off because it was so slow to ship. Weirdly, it does have a DVD player. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for the recommendation! (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Dec-18 09:13 AM

thanks for the feedback! glad it's working for you. You got it at the right time too -- the price went up $100 just a few days ago. Enjoy!

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BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:26 PM

i think i need a new pc

it's not running fortnite well at all

Usage Manager

Processor Temps

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:30 PM

my god brother

you're cooking

and you RAM is maxed out

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:31 PM

damn

i should back everything up.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:31 PM

what is your cpu

and how much ram do you have

and do you have a gpu

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:31 PM

yeah

System

i5-4670

8GB

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:32 PM

and the gpu?

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:33 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:35 PM

your parts are OK

just your pc is in bad shape

everything is overheating

and for some reason your RAM is being consumed alive (edited)

8gb should be plenty unless you have a ton of junk running at teh same time

fortnite + chrome won't take up that much ram

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:36 PM

yeah all i have is fortnite and chrome open

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:37 PM

what I'd do is back up everythign on your computer, and do a full reset https://windowsreport.com/12115-factory-reset-windows-8/#.XC2DdlxKiUl

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and you need to address the heating issue

you need to make sure your CPU cooler is actually attached correctly and snug

you should probably reconsider reseating your CPU cooler, which means you'll remove the CPU heatsink and fan, remove the old thermal paste, and then reapply new thermal paste

make sure the case fans are spinning and mostly dust free

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:40 PM

prob just gonna throw this PC out the window

and get a new one

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:40 PM

lol

k well don't throw it away, donate it at least

that i5 is actually a good cpu

and the gpu is decent

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:41 PM

not gonna get more thermal paste etc (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:41 PM

k, well what would be your budget for a new pc

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:42 PM

prob around $1500, no more mini itx for me.

i built this one 5 years ago

and people are trying to also transcode off of me from plex

no wonder i couldnt play fortnite while people were transcoding.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:43 PM

what resolution do you play at, and do you want the machine to play the most modern titles?

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:44 PM

1920x1080 16:9 fortnite only basically

they keep adding to this game like planes and it's probably just killing this computer

the game is now like 30GB (edited)

it couldn't handle the last two updates.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:46 PM

k something like this would be more than enough for max fortnite high fps

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227872&ignorebbr=1

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probably overkill, but at least it will be future proofed

BrianK 02-Jan-19 07:51 PM

should i pay a few extra $$$ to upgrade to the 2080 or a faster cpu?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 07:55 PM

If you ever plan to upgrade to 144hz monitor or 1440p monitor, or you wish to play modern AAA games like BF5 or something, then you would benefit going for the rtx 2080

if you plan to stick with 1080p 60hz monitor, and only play games like fortnite, then no you won't benefit

that pc I linked averages 140fps in fortnite on ultra settings

which is more than double your monitor's refresh rate. That is a ton of overhead

BrianK 02-Jan-19 08:06 PM

i have a 144hz monitor already

https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG2402-FreeSync-Advanced-Ergonomics/dp/B075D1B4SV

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 08:08 PM

I see

here is one with an rtx 2080 https://www.walmart.com/ip/OMEN-HP-Obelisk-Gaming-Desktop-Intel-8th-Core-i7-8700-3-2GHz-GeForce-RTX-2080-8GB-16GB-DDR4-2TB-Hard-Drive-256GB-SSD-PCIe-R-NVMe-M-2-USB-3-1-AC-WiFi-/493454884

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and this one https://www.amazon.com/SkyTech-RTX-2080-Oracle-Computer/dp/B07JRCR8QR/ref=sr_1_21_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1546488479&sr=8-21-spons&keywords=rtx+2080+desktop&psc=1

BrianK 02-Jan-19 08:22 PM

Thx

ToTimesTwoIsToo 02-Jan-19 08:22 PM

yeah np, you can't really go wrong with either the rtx 2070 or rtx 2080 builds. You'll get your money's worth either way

BrianK 02-Jan-19 08:31 PM

woot thanks

For now I'm letting the machine cool outside in the patio until the new PC comes

Oxybe 03-Jan-19 04:11 AM

Currently I have a budget of ~1000$ CAN and looking to get a decent Gaming PC. I don't need or want 4k, just something I can run modern games at a nice 1080 or occasional 1440 at med-high detail, maybe stream occasionally. My old rig is... old... and in need of replacing. Im debating between these two PCs while Boxing day specials are on or waiting two weeks and my Christmas/New Years bonuses coming in and maybe getting something a bit better https://m.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/asus-rog-strix-gaming-pc-intel-core-i5-8400-1tb-hdd-128gb-ssd-8gb-ram-nvidia-gtx1050-windows-10/12468833 https://m.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/dell-inspiron-5680-gaming-pc-intel-core-i58400-1tb-hdd-8gb-ram-gtx-1060-windows-10-open-box/13044504 alternatively i could spend the extra 100$ for https://m.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/hp-gaming-pc-intel-core-i5-8400-1tb-hdd-256gb-ssd-12gb-ram-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-win-10-eng/12651224 which looks like a much nicer PC overall. Any advice?

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Johnny 03-Jan-19 07:35 AM

Ive found that deals in canada for pcs aren't really as great as those in us, if youre willing to go refurbished; this is a much nicer deal: https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=570_7_158&item_id=112047

Oxybe 03-Jan-19 08:19 AM

i checked it out and it's not available online, only in-store via backorder and there is no Canada Computers in my neck of the Maritimes (PEI)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Jan-19 10:16 AM

@Oxybe https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1446_1448&item_id=124103

Oxybe 03-Jan-19 11:13 AM

It is a nice deal, but I can't order online as I don't have a credit card. My only options are PCs I can either get or order from my local Best Buy or Walmart.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Jan-19 12:25 PM

they also offer payments through banking accounts if that helps

Electronic Money Transfers are a secure and easy way of making a payment for an online purchase. It is just like paying a bill online. Currently we only accept bill payment through the following banks: Bank of Montreal, CIBC, Royal Bank of Canada, Scotia Bank, and TD Canada Trust

(edited)

also, does this show 1099 for you ? https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-5-2600-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-8gb-ram-rx-580-xtr-english/13194251.aspx?

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if so, that is a decent deal too (edited)

Oxybe 03-Jan-19 12:40 PM

yeah that one's 1099. i checked it out and it's specs looks great for the cost. I'll probably head over to Bestbuy and place an order for it.

Dreconus Obsidious Istaphyr 03-Jan-19 01:22 PM

so, looking for a $1k build for a friend. USA. What do you guys recommend?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Jan-19 03:52 PM

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227860&ignorebbr=1

if he doesn't mind 8gb of RAM, he can get a more powerful GPU with this one https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Gaming-ArchAngel-Elite-AMD-Ryzen-2600-3-4-GHz-Nvidia-GeForce-1070-TI-8GB-8GB-DDR4-2400-MEMORY-500-GB-SSD-w-3D-NAND-650-Watts-Windows-10-Home-/569243217

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if he's playing at 1080p with a 60hz monitor, then the gtx 1070 is plenty good

and he'll appreciate the 16gb of RAM

so I'd go with that

if he's wants to play at 1440p, or 1080p @ 144hz, then he would benefit from the gtx 1070 ti

@Dreconus Obsidious Istaphyr

Mark 03-Jan-19 04:47 PM

Feels kinda strange to ask a question haha but I have a spare 960, anyone know anything fun/interesting to do with it? It definitely comes no where close to my current rig. One of my buds recommended making like a streaming/rendering machine but I don't do either of those things. Current idea is to find a cheaper PC on craigslist near me with a relatively capable CPU and just make it into some sort of spare computer for fun? I found a i5 750 but it feels a little too shitty. Open to any ideas.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Jan-19 05:02 PM

yeah maybe turn it into a project where you build a cheapish gaming machine and donate it to some local group or kid

gtx 960 is still fairly capable of running a lot of great pc games

or just keep it as a spare -- it's really nice to have spare parts to help diagnose issues taht come up with your main rig

if you suspect a gpu issue, you just pop in a gtx 960 and see if things work

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:01 PM

help

my laptop not detecting ram did i fuck up?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:02 PM

so you got a beep code?

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:02 PM

er i bought laptop ram from corsair

i stick it in

but my laptop still only shows

the soldered ram

idk

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:04 PM

how much ram does it detect

and how much did you add

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:05 PM

i added 8gb

it only shows the 4gb that was already soldered into the motherboard

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:06 PM

do you have 64 bit or 32 bit windows

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:06 PM

64

does 32-bit even still exists?

in 2019 LUL

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:06 PM

eh you'd be surprised

hmm

are you sure the ram is installed correctly? snug?

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:07 PM

im pretty sure

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:07 PM

usually the mobo won't even boot if somehting is up with the ram

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:07 PM

i tried reinserting it a few times

it still doesnt work

i think its this one that i got

https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Mainstream-Memory/Corsair-Memory-%E2%80%94-8GB-DDR3L-SODIMM-Memory/p/CMSO8GX3M1C1600C11

Corsair Memory — 8GB DDR3L SODIMM Memory

Memory you can rely on.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:09 PM

can you find the exact model of your laptop

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:10 PM

acer aspire v5 473p 5602

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:17 PM

idk it seems like it should work

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Jan-19 03:22 PM

maybe

here is a list of officially supported modules https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/compatible-upgrade-for/Acer/aspire-v5-473p-5602

RAM & SSD Upgrades | Acer Aspire V5-473P-5602 | Crucial.com

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i think the one you bought is slightly difference

the ram timings list 9-9-9-24 for yours

and I think the ram timings might be different for the official list

i have to run, i'll be out all evening, but I'll return to this message tomorrow morning and check up

you might need to make a post on /r/pcgamingtechsupport

they have a real-time reddit chat room

good luck!

Conxwa 04-Jan-19 03:24 PM

aight ty

Mycall 05-Jan-19 08:56 AM

Is 60hz playable

SpiesWithin 05-Jan-19 09:11 AM

@Mycall yes

Mycall 05-Jan-19 09:13 AM

Okay thanks because I bought a monitor from a friend for £50

1920 x 1080 60hz ACER

So I have the monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Just missing the tower oof

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Jan-19 10:15 AM

@Conxwa did you look more into the ram issue?

Conxwa 05-Jan-19 10:57 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo heh yeh im a dumbass and it wasnt inserted properly LOL

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Jan-19 12:40 PM

phew, so glad you figured it out man, nice!

x Datsyuk 05-Jan-19 06:21 PM

Hey guys, what would be the best sub 200$ pc to put either a GTX 1050ti (even if low profile) or a RX 560 into?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Jan-19 06:21 PM

they don't exist sorry

x Datsyuk 05-Jan-19 06:21 PM

Okay

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Jan-19 06:22 PM

your best bet is to buy a used i5 8gb ram pc on amazon or ebay, then add the gtx 1050 yourself

can be done for 300, maybe 250

200 will be hard

@x Datsyuk look up this youtuber https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Jxh95N32m1JvKG_-fQ6QQ

OzTalksHW

he has a ton of videos on how to build incredibly cheap gaming machines

usually involving used parts and adding new gpus

x Datsyuk 05-Jan-19 06:27 PM

Yea that’s what I planned on doing, thanks for the YouTuber, I’ll check him out

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Jan-19 06:27 PM

also i misread your question, i thought you mean 200 including the gpu. you can certainly find the non-gpu PC for 200, then add a gtx 1050 (edited)

ti's doable

I would just avoid 1st gen i5 or i7. Ideally it will be 3rd gen or above

x Datsyuk 05-Jan-19 06:29 PM

Okay, thanks

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Jan-19 06:30 PM

also if it looks like the case is skinny, be sure to buy a low-profile gpu https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Optiplex-7010-SFF-Desktop/dp/B01HSDJFFM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1546741751&sr=8-3&keywords=i5+desktop+refurbished

example small pc ^

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 09:02 AM

quick new person question, how does one determine what RAM upgrade to buy for their PC? I would like to have my eye out for any deals since my computer has 8. TIA!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 12:53 PM

if you have 2 dimm slots available, add exact matching ram if possible

if you are swapping out for a new set, find the model of your motherboard and see if the maker published an officially supported memory list (edited)

the main brands, Asus, MSI, etc. usually have a memory list for each motherboard model. These memory modules were tested and official work with that motherboard

if it's not published, your best bet is to find DDR4 that matches most closely in timing to whatever is currently in your system. (edited)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_timings

Memory timings

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ram timings are usually listed as 4 digits, separated by a dash, e.g. 9-9-9-24

it's probably printed on the memory module itself, or you might find it in BIOS, or using cpu-z program

@Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh)

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 01:11 PM

I think it is MSI and crucial but the RAM is kind of hard to see.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 01:12 PM

you might run speccy

also I think crucial might have tool to identify the exact ram

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 01:13 PM

I should say I know it is MSI

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 01:13 PM

you mean the motherboard?

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 01:13 PM

because I have their icon on the desktop

yes, the motherboard, I'll go to curcial and see if there is a tool to ID the RAM

oh, I see Speccy can check temperatures, that would be handy!

so it did not tell me the type of RAM did it?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 01:21 PM

yeah it might not

mine just lists the timings

maybe run crucial tool

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 01:26 PM

https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/scanview/AB5A68E631D926C3

I guess I can just buy the 8 gb it recomends

I can open up the case and try to get a better look at the RAM later

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 01:27 PM

speccy should list the timings and frequency'

what did it say?

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 01:28 PM

RAM 8.00GB Single-Channel Unknown @ 1199MHz (17-17-17-39)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 01:30 PM

so you currently have ddr4-2400

there are other frequencies, like 2666 and 3000mhz

you'll want to get 2400 since that will match

you're probably safe getting the one officially listed for your mobo

even if the RAM timings don't exactly match

or, like you said, might be a good idea to take a closer look, squeeze your phone in there and take a pic, or just pop a ram stick out

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 01:33 PM

I wasn't sure if that was ok, but I didn'think about the phone idea

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 01:33 PM

yeah RAM sticks are designed to be popped in and out pretty easily

there are 2 tabs on each side holding it in

flip those down or over, then just pull the stick out

if the phone idea doesn't work out

Mig 06-Jan-19 05:11 PM

Hi everyone! Are there any good deals for around $650 or less right now? I’m in the US and the games I’d like to play are Fortnite, CSGO, COD and would like to do some work on photoshop and illustrator

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 05:49 PM

yes, this is a great deal in that price range https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Shadow-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-3G-500GB-SSD-8GB-DDR4-500-Watt-80-Plus-Power-Supply-Windows-10-Home-VR-Ready-G/494472235

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very capable gaming machine

only has 8gb of RAM, which may or may not be enough for your photoshop needs

Brajany 06-Jan-19 05:49 PM

Not bad, what brand is the PSU, if you know?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 05:50 PM

but will be quite hard to find a 16gb machine sub 900

that also has decent gpu

most likely a generic psu

Brajany 06-Jan-19 05:50 PM

Well, there's occasionally those god tier deals.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 05:51 PM

not god tier deal

there is the $900 gtx 1070 ti deal still

which I consider pretty god-like

Brajany 06-Jan-19 05:51 PM

Yeah, that is, quite.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 05:52 PM

wish it was standard practice to list psu brand on prebuilts

kind of a shame

Brajany 06-Jan-19 05:53 PM

Yeah, that would be amazing.

I'd prefer that, over the RAM speed.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 05:53 PM

but also the way I look at it, it's a fairly cheap part ot replace in case things go wrong. and a good chance it will actually function just fine for years

Brajany 06-Jan-19 05:54 PM

Yeah.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 06-Jan-19 05:57 PM

are you hunting for a pc currently or just waiting for a deal to pop up?

or just here to help others

Mig 06-Jan-19 07:07 PM

thank you!

Erin Thestral (ErinnGoBragh) 06-Jan-19 08:28 PM

@Mig, I have the Skytech walmart computer, I'm not doing any photo shop but I'm very happy with it so far. It runs games well. I could try to help if you have any questions

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Brajany 07-Jan-19 12:06 PM

Here because I have no one to talk to on Discord.

Johnny 07-Jan-19 12:09 PM

Lets talk about cases

So hard to find a good non-rgb case these days

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:13 PM

or non- tempered glass

the minimalism of this case is pretty nice https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352066

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Johnny 07-Jan-19 12:28 PM

Love all black cases

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:29 PM

yeah same here, still rocking my antec three hundred case I bought nearly 10 years ago https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/antec_three_hundred_two_mid_twr_1417367105000_1101652.jpg

not as sleek as it could be, but it's a good compromise between design and functionality (edited)

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:33 PM

Hello everyone. Finally going to get into PC gaming. Happy to be a part of this server as I learn my way around a gaming PC.

I was wondering if you guys could take a look at this used PC and tell me a little more about the parts and if it’s worth it. Seems like a solid deal but I am working with limited knowledge right now

https://owensboro.craigslist.org/sys/d/bowling-green-gaming-computer-for-sale/6788736141.html

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Johnny 07-Jan-19 12:35 PM

Hmm I dont know about used prices, but that gpu is a bit outdated

Approx whats ur budget

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:37 PM

I would like to stay around $600.

Prefer prebuilt at this point, but I think I could build a PC if given enough time haha.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:38 PM

I think you should consider this one https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Shadow-Gaming-Desktop-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-3G-500GB-SSD-8GB-DDR4-500-Watt-80-Plus-Power-Supply-Windows-10-Home-VR-Ready-G/494472235

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it will be close to 700 after tax though. which might put you out of range

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:38 PM

I was about to bring that one up. It’s all over the subreddit

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:39 PM

the r9 290 is about on par with a gtx 1060

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:39 PM

That’s on par with a 1060? Wow, didn’t expect that

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:39 PM

and the r5 2600 is quite a bit better than an i5 4570

yeah https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-AMD-R9-290/3646vs2171

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also I think the r9 290 gets HOT (edited)

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:40 PM

Good to know

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:40 PM

but, for 400 that pc isn't too bad really

Johnny 07-Jan-19 12:40 PM

On par with 1060??? I thought r9 290 is a really old card

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:40 PM

And yeah, the CPU seems like it may be a bit worse than I would want.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:40 PM

it was release in 2013

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:41 PM

Would I be overspending at $400?

Johnny 07-Jan-19 12:41 PM

I seee mb

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:42 PM

yeah probably, the r9 290 is selling for ~60 bucks on ebay right now. You can buy an entire desktop with the i5 + 8gb of RAM for around 200-300

it's probably appropriately priced atually

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:43 PM

Great to know

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:43 PM

as long as everything is running as it should

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:43 PM

Looks like it was probably a solid rig in 2013

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:43 PM

oh yeah definitely, but tech advances very quickly

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:43 PM

He claims it works well and is happy to give me time to check everything out

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:43 PM

that machine will still rock 1080p games though

if you go there, have himi run userbenchmark

it will check the "health" of each part separately

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:44 PM

Not too shabby at all. Might see if he will work on the price if the benchmark goes well

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:44 PM

it will let you know if anything is underperforming (edited)

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:45 PM

I really appreciate the help

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:45 PM

np! just know that computers parts do age over time, and it's really hard to predict when they will crap out

so of course you're ataking a risk buying older parts

but at a low cost, it might be worth it

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:46 PM

So the whole Optiplex and a good GPU is a solid option?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:46 PM

even new parts can crap out, so

buying a used desktop and adding a new PSU + GPU is a good option

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:47 PM

Very true, seems well taken care of, but 6 years is a long time. I’ll have to think about it more.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:47 PM

there is a youtube who makes videos on this very subject https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Jxh95N32m1JvKG_-fQ6QQ

OzTalksHW

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:48 PM

Yeah I’ve really only just noticed the trend to buy OEM business PCs and do that. Seems like a great option, especially considering that I’m not worried about looks at all

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:48 PM

in general, CPUs RAM and MOBOS tend to have longer shelf lives than PSU and GPU

yes, you could buy a 200 dollar used i5 8gb desktop on amazon, and jsut add a gtx 1050 ti without upgrading the psu

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:48 PM

That’s great, I’ll check out a few videos. Appreciate it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 12:49 PM

and that would make a great 1080p machine

np, let us know if you have more questions

BBurch 07-Jan-19 12:49 PM

And that’s honestly all that I need. Thanks again. I’ll definitely be hanging around

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TheRandomPost 07-Jan-19 01:32 PM

Hey

Where do I ask about PCs?

I have a budget and preferred specs

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:36 PM

ask away

TheRandomPost 07-Jan-19 01:38 PM

I've been saving up for a year and a half now, and its finally time to make my purchase I'm looking for an absolute unit of a gaming pc that can handle anything I throw at it in a reasonable manner, but the trick is, I have a budget of 1.2k. Was hoping you guys could help me out. It would be preferable if you all stuck within the budget, but considering what I'm asking for, just try to stay within a 200$ range of the budget. Thanks a million!

I've done some searching but I can't seem to find the right one

Plus I'd like some insight

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:39 PM

what resolution do you intend to play at

TheRandomPost 07-Jan-19 01:40 PM

1820x1080

Though that's negotiable

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:41 PM

I would shoot for an rtx 2070 build

let me find you an example

TheRandomPost 07-Jan-19 01:41 PM

Aight

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:43 PM

https://www.walmart.com/ip/CLX-SET-GAMING-Intel-i7-8700K-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-8GB-GDDR5-16GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-240GB-SSD-Storage-MS-Windows-10-Home-RGB-Edition-Battlefield-V-Anthe/976200736

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that is on the high end

another good one, $100 less https://www.walmart.com/ip/CLX-SET-GAMING-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-3-20GHz-8-Core-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-8GB-GDDR5-16GB-DDR4-RAM-1TB-HDD-120GB-SSD-Storage-MS-Windows-10-Home-Battlefie/875106230

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TheRandomPost 07-Jan-19 01:46 PM

Looking sweet af

I'll have to sweep some extra cash in but the second one is what I'm eyeing

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:47 PM

yeah it's a strong PC all-around. I would recommend 1080p @ 144hz, or 1440p @ 60hz monitor

that PC will handle either

Johnny 07-Jan-19 01:48 PM

Is the 2700x a big difference?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:48 PM

but even 1080p @60hz is fine too

Johnny 07-Jan-19 01:48 PM

Than the 2700

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:48 PM

not a massive difference for gaming

if you were streaming, it might come into play more

Johnny 07-Jan-19 01:49 PM

Found this version for $100 more and a 240 gb ssd; https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883227872

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 01:50 PM

yes, and here's another https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-slate-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-240gb-solid-state-drive-black/6316132.p?skuId=6316132

you can see some gaming benchmarks for 2700 vs 2700x and see if you think its worth the extra cost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfjQW08IyM

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looks to be ~10% fps increase, so it's not a massive difference

stayeduptolate 07-Jan-19 02:10 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo when will the new desktops have the 2400 or w e the new one is coming out?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 02:10 PM

oh the rtx 2060?

stayeduptolate 07-Jan-19 02:11 PM

ya think that is the one

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 02:12 PM

yeah probably pretty soon. it's released next Tuesday

You should start seeing prebuilts pop up soon after

so by the end of this month there should be stuff out there

stayeduptolate 07-Jan-19 02:12 PM

sweet hoping that pushes prices down a little bit

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 02:14 PM

so the 2060 is about $150 cheaper than the 2070

right now you can find 2070 prebuilts for ~1200-1400

so I think you'll see 2060 builds in the 1000-1200 range

that is the hope

but considering the rtx 2060 is about on par with the gtx 1070 ti, it really shows how good that $900 skytech 1070ti build is

hunterevans__ 07-Jan-19 10:11 PM

Hey

Just seeing if my messages would work now

Does the best keyboard and mouse matter unless you are playing competitively?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Jan-19 10:28 PM

I think it's worth spending around 30-40 on a mouse, and a keyboard can be as cheap as you want

i've had issues with cheap mice in teh past, like buttons becoming unresponsive (edited)

Mark 08-Jan-19 08:38 PM

Hey, this is my forte! @hunterevans__ I would highly recommend opting for a good mouse. It may seem like nonsense but the superior sensors in higher-end mice definitely make a significant difference when it comes down to the nitty gritty. Of course, this only really applies for FPS games. On the lower end of the mouse spectrum the Logitech G Pro (https://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g-pro-wired-optical-gaming-mouse-with-rgb-lighting-black/5592428.p?skuId=5592428&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=1051&ds_rl=1260666&ds_rl=1266837&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsdHhBRCwARIsAAhRhsmhIyIa9vJPniUTmyQSW5437X_RGX0-5bTD9aTUOPx0RGXmWSee4p4aAvlBEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) is an incredibly good bang for the buck. Cheapo packaged mice definitely won't cut it. I'd also recommend against using wireless mice (they've gotten better, but still aren't as good as wired). Office mice usually have laser sensors which have input lag and can have liftoff issues. If it matters to you, my FPS credentials are about 4 years of experience in CS (got to MGE highest ever, yeah I'm not great haha) and almost 2 years in R6S (got to Plat 2). Whatever keyboard works fine. Mechanical don't offer noticeable advantages but they feel nice

Oh, and if you care, I'm currently using the Razer Mamba Elite. I'd highly recommend it.

Johnny 09-Jan-19 12:15 PM

oof that radeon 7 looks JUICY

Littlepip 09-Jan-19 01:27 PM

does it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Jan-19 02:52 PM

it will basically be an rtx 2080, but without rtx capabilities

same price, same performance

Johnny 09-Jan-19 03:17 PM

Yeah surprised to see amd compete with top of the line gpus

BBurch 09-Jan-19 05:45 PM

Hi everyone. Finally closing in on my first gaming PC. It seems like a great deal, but I wanted to run it by you guys first. The guy I talked to knows very little about PCs so I will have to do some testing and inspecting when I meet at his house. It’s a custom built PC from Cybertron. Here are the specs

I7-6700 Gtx 1070 32 gb ram (specs unknown) 256 gb ssd 1TB HDD

I will open it up tomorrow so I have more information on the parts, but for $600 USD, it seems like a great deal. Am I missing anything that I should be weary of?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Jan-19 05:56 PM

as long as everything is in good condition, it's a solid deal for sure

might double check the PSU so see if it's branded or not

if it is lower quality, maybe mention it and use it as a bargaining tool to get him to lower the price

again, if non-K 6700, can leverage a bit there

100% have him play a game right in front of you, and have him run userbenchmark.com right in front of you

here is an example userbenchmark result https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/13684090

as you can see, it will display the part score relative to other machines that have that same part

so you can assess whether the part is operating as it should

also, have him open the PC and make sure it was mostly dust free. A bit of dust is normal, but if there are globs of it on the fans and stuff, that is not a good sign

that PC is probably already a handful of years old now, which means the thermal paste might be wearing out by now. You are going to want to check CPU and GPU thermals right away

you can always reapply thermal paste yourself, and is part of the maintenance of a gaming machine

BBurch 09-Jan-19 06:10 PM

Thank you for all of the info. Definitely going to run a game or two and run a benchmark. He is claiming he bought it two years ago. He didn’t seem very knowledgable, so I’m not sure if he has ever taken the side panel off, let alone clean it. I hope it’s not too dirty.

Conxwa 10-Jan-19 11:28 PM

out of an abundance of caution, if he doesnt seem knowledgeable about his computer there could be a possibility it is stolen

Martyr 12-Jan-19 07:45 AM

hi all

Zion 12-Jan-19 04:33 PM

Hey

jhals 13-Jan-19 05:09 PM

The best buy prebuilt with the HP Radeon 580 is back on sale for $600, the one that was on sale near black Friday Which is the better prebuilt, that one or the $650 skytech from Walmart ?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Jan-19 05:12 PM

this one ? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-series-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-128gb-solid-state-drive-shadow-black-with-a-brushed-hairline-pattern/6280608.p?skuId=6280608

jhals 13-Jan-19 05:12 PM

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-series-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-128gb-solid-state-drive-shadow-black-with-a-brushed-hairline-pattern/6280608.p?skuId=6280608

Yeah that's the one

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Jan-19 05:13 PM

the 2600 is worth the extra 50 bucks (edited)

compared to 2400g

jhals 13-Jan-19 05:14 PM

Are the GPU's about the same in performance?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Jan-19 05:14 PM

yeah the gtx 1060 3gb is similar to the rx 580

in some games the amd card is better, in some titles the nvidia card is better, but overall quite similar

jhals 13-Jan-19 05:17 PM

Okay awesome thank you. I missed out on the bb deal and got the Walmart one just wanted to make sure I didn't make a mistake

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Jan-19 05:19 PM

yeah I'd recommend the skytech over the hp pavilion, so you're good

jhals 13-Jan-19 05:32 PM

Okay I feel better

zeerevelator 14-Jan-19 09:31 AM

Client of mine is in the stone age and I haven't been in the market for basic towers for awhile. What's a good deal right now on something that is only going to be used by an old retired couple? They are upgrading from an ancient Dell Dimension E510 so anything will work really, just looking for whatever might be a deal right now.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Jan-19 01:03 PM

@zeerevelator this is a good deal https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=12611239&SID=d79f3606183f11e9aa9042e834a7e0140INT&AID=10446076&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Slickdeals%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16883101687&cm_sp=

Lemar 15-Jan-19 07:21 AM

are ironside computers any good?

Brajany 15-Jan-19 08:52 AM

Well, five year warranty, doesn't seem bad, but, overpriced, definitely.

Zion 15-Jan-19 10:46 PM

Let me open a new world to you guys

If you want nice pricing, hit up the local Craigslist or ebay

Used system usually can come cheap becuase they're being sold for whatever reason but make sure to test the pc out and ask if it's been used to mine

Performance may not have changed but mining just destroys the life of a gpu

And remember to ask when the parts were bought, parts have nice warranty

OnyxShellow 16-Jan-19 09:10 AM

Hi there! I am currently trying to upgrade my computer after nearly 8 years with my current one. I am curious what the community thinks of this particular desktop pc: https://www.costco.com/iBuyPower-ELE9902T-Gaming-Desktop---Intel-Core-i9-9900K---GeForce-RTX-2080---With-Call-of-Duty-Download-Code.product.100473614.html

Costco Wholesale

iBuyPower ELE9902T Gaming Desktop - Intel Core i9-9900K - GeForce RTX 2080 - With Call of Duty Download Code

It's probably super overkill for my purposes, but I think I can future proof for the next few years with it, yeah?

Or should I try to build my own pc with the same specs instead? Would that be cheaper?

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 10:41 AM

hey

is someone here that can help me ;D=

?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 10:44 AM

yes what's up

@OnyxShellow what resolution do you intend to play at, also do you plan to play the most demanding games? are you going to stream or record gameplay? (edited)

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 10:52 AM

i need new pc.. and because all i can spend is 550 i want a decent pc to get at least 60 fps into a game like league..

however i found 2 pc that are both intresting to me however i dunno if there is mutch difference between them

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 10:53 AM

k send the links

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 10:54 AM

see if you can open t his

check this 1

Attachment: Well239.pdf (7.92 MB)

there are 4 pc at page 15.

419 euro and 549 euro..1 of those i wish to buy witch i believe...playng a game like league wont be a problem.i dont mind using low resolution

so what you think?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 10:56 AM

which country are you from

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 10:57 AM

italy

but i mean you can see in english there right?

i can give you the dates if you want.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 10:59 AM

those PCs only have 4gb of RAM -- that is much too small for 2018 in my opinion.

something like this would be vastly better than all of those

https://www.newegg.com/global/it-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883101687&Description=i5%208400%20acer&cm_re=i5_8400_acer-_-83-101-687-_-Product

only issue is that it ships from USA, so not sure how long it would take to get to you

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:00 AM

ye biggest problem was

in the city i live i cant find nothing like that..

its like they dissapear

af

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:00 AM

you can't order online?

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:00 AM

i dont trust mutch online..

dont judge me

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:01 AM

my recommendation is to try to find a pc with 8gb of RAM if possible, you'll be happier

an i3 8100 or i5 8400 would be great

maybe even an i5 7400

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:02 AM

does the ram

give more fps or???

i mean better gaming experience?

im really not good on pcs

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:04 AM

it doesn't give more FPS, but if you don't have enough ram your PC will start stuttering very badly

if you don't mind having all background programs closed, google, spotify, etc

then you might make 4gb work

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:05 AM

neh..

im like..

2 games at max..

rest is not my business

i dont spend mutch time on pc..

i play mostly at night and the only 2 games i want is aion and league..the rest i really dont bother with no programs..

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:06 AM

you might be ok with 4gb then

of the ones you linked, either the 419 or 549 would be good options for league

I would avoid the others

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:06 AM

and you think with 60+fps i can get there??

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:07 AM

yeah definitely

hd 630 igpu can run league on highest settings 60fps+

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:07 AM

for real?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:07 AM

https://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-League-of-Legends/3761/178724.0.Max.1080p.0

UserBenchmark: FPS Estimates League of Legends, HD 630 (Desktop Ka...

according to that

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:09 AM

that would be nice

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:09 AM

btw do you guys have other local stores like walmart or bestbuy? I wouldn't mind taking a look at other places for you to see if something else is better in that price range

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:10 AM

not really xD

my city is pretty small

and i checked and i saw pc at 800+i dont know if i need that for 2 games...like 1 mmorpg+league..

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:11 AM

league can run on just about anything

it's not demanding at all

what is the mmorpg

you play

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:11 AM

Aion

its not that big honestly still mmorpg

SSD 256 gb however with this..you think aion +league +lets say i need winrar +windows 10..because thats what the pc have.You dont think it will be too mutch right?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:13 AM

it will all fit with ease

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:13 AM

nice

cuz i use hack for skins

LOL

those are small programs like...download in 3 secs..

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:14 AM

yeah it should all work fine in my opinioin

Brokenhz 16-Jan-19 11:14 AM

aight

ty for help honestly

maybe 1 day i will get that pc at 3000 euro..but for now i dont focus on gaming.i have more my life to work on

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Jan-19 11:18 AM

gotcha, no problem and good luck!

let us know if you have more questions or run into issues

Mike 16-Jan-19 01:02 PM

@Brokenhz you arent gonna have a very fun time in aion with the hd630

especially in sieges and stuff

though idk if those events are still crowded

Zion 16-Jan-19 07:49 PM

Just lease one with a buyer, pay some and agree to pay the rest later on

Not hard to deal

that one motherfucker 17-Jan-19 05:42 AM

Hello. So long story short I need some help finding a specific desktop/ workstation. I want to build one but with my classes in graduate school, I have little time to build one and wait on specific parts from different website as projects are needed to be finished by the end of February. Any suggestions for a good pc or workstation for 2D and 3D animation no more than 2500?

Zion 17-Jan-19 12:30 PM

that's where you go with the red team

i don't know much about threadrippers and all of that either, can't help.

planeta 21-Jan-19 08:30 AM

Hey. Just saw this link on the subreddit and thought I'd check the server out; I'm looking to buy a desktop, am not especially knowledgeable, and wondered if there were any kind folks who could spare a minute or two to give some recommendations.

Is there anything other than storage, RAM, and processors to take into account?

Zion 21-Jan-19 02:24 PM

Warrantees

Manufacturer

Pricings whether it goes down or higher. Best deals^

Shipmaster Rtas 'Vadum 22-Jan-19 08:04 AM

What's the least amount of money I can spend on a PC for Unity and Unreal Engine 4? (Creating games) (edited)

wouter 22-Jan-19 11:31 AM

Hey could anybody help me out? Trying to figure out whether I want to buy a new PC

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Jan-19 01:31 PM

@wouter hi

wouter 22-Jan-19 02:06 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Hi, so I still have a pc that works but I kind of feel like buying a new one

Mine's custom and it's a lil scuffed

Quite a few programs have been crashing lately, had it for 3 years

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Jan-19 03:13 PM

what are you current specs

@wouter

and how much are you looking to spend on the pc (edited)

VentriTV 22-Jan-19 03:17 PM

do i really need 32gigs of memory... hmmm

16 or 32 thinking

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Jan-19 03:18 PM

what do you intend to do with your pc. very rarely will someone need a full 32

VentriTV 22-Jan-19 03:18 PM

gaming/streaming

video editing for youtube

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Jan-19 03:18 PM

yeah 16 is plenty for those

i mean

it never hurts to get 32

but if you are under a budget, i wouldn't compromise better gpu / cpu, etc. just for the extra ram

because an extra 16 of ram is going to run ~150-200, which could gain you a better gpu/cpu. that's where I'd rather put my money

VentriTV 22-Jan-19 03:21 PM

building an i7-9700k RTX 2070

going to be expensive

but this machine will last at least 5 years+

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Jan-19 03:21 PM

yeah I say just stick with 16 of ram. add more in 5 years if you think you need it

but 32 gb won't be the standard for a while for gaming

hell you can get by with 8gb as long as you have decent amount of VRAM.

wouter 22-Jan-19 03:46 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Currently running an i5-4460, R9 390 gpu, 250gb ssd and 1tb hdd, MSI H81I mobo all in a bitfenix case that doesn't fit optimally (have to keep the side off or it overheats). Oh and 2x4gb corsair vengeance ram, windows 10.

It's been running fine for 3y but I'm kind of feeling something new

Looking to spend about 800-1100, already got some options picked out if you want to look at 'em because I'm not that up-to-date with everything

ToTimesTwoIsToo 22-Jan-19 04:34 PM

sure send some links of what you're thinking about

wouter 23-Jan-19 08:01 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Sorry, hadn't seen it

It's not in English, should I just list the specs of each?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 23-Jan-19 08:09 AM

you can send the url, I will just use google translate

wouter 23-Jan-19 08:17 AM

Don't think it'll be that easy but... you'll see haha

https://www.dragoncomputers.eu/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-6-Core-12-threads-3.2Ghz-Turbo-3.6Ghz-razendsnelle-Nvidia-Geforce-GTX-1070-8GB-GDDR5-250GB-SSD-1TB-HDD-8GB-DDR4-DVDRW Here you go @ToTimesTwoIsToo

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6-Core (12 threads) 3.2Ghz (turbo: 3.6Ghz) razend...

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 6-Core (12 threads) 3.2Ghz (turbo: 3.6Ghz), krachtige en razendsnelle Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 grafische kaart, 1TB SATA600 HDD, razendsnelle 250GB SSD, 8GB DDR4 geheugen, MSI B350 TOMAHAWK moederbord met SATA600 & USB3.1 in

https://www.dragoncomputers.eu/ACTIE-Gigabyte-Intel-Core-i5-8400-6-Core-6x2.8Ghz-(turbo:-4.0Ghz)-razendsnelle-RTX-2060-6GB-GDDR6-HDMI-DP-DVI-512GB-SSD-16GB-DDR4-game-PC https://www.dragoncomputers.eu/gamerPCs-vanaf-600/RTX-2060-PCs/De-geheime-Tip https://www.dragoncomputers.eu/gamerPCs-vanaf-600/RTX-2070-PCs/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X-6-Core-12-threads-3.6Ghz-turbo-4.2Ghz-razendsnelle-Nvidia-Geforce-RTX-2070-8GB-GDDR6-grafische-kaart-256GB-SSD-16GB-3000Mhz-DDR4

Gigabyte Intel Core i5 8400 6-Core 6x2.8Ghz (turbo: 4.0Ghz) razend...

Intel Core i5 8400 6-Core 6x2.8Ghz (turbo: 4.0Ghz), snelle Nvidia Geforce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6 grafische kaart, razendsnelle 512GB SSD, 16GB DDR4 werkgeheugen, Gigabyte H310 moederbord met SATA600 & USB3.1 in een kleine zwarte Cooler Master MasterBox Q3

De geheime tip: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core (12 threads) 3.4Ghz (turbo...

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-Core (12 threads) 3.4Ghz (turbo: 3.9Ghz), snelle Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6 grafische kaart, razendsnelle 256GB M.2 SSD, 16GB DDR4 3000Mhz werkgeheugen, B450 moederbord in een elegante Riotoro gamer behuizing met een 700

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 6-Core (12 threads) 3.6Ghz (turbo: 4.2Ghz) razen...

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 6-Core (12 threads) 3.6Ghz (turbo: 4.2Ghz), razendsnelle Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070 8GB GDDR6 grafische kaart razendsnelle 256GB SSD, 16GB DDR4 3000Mhz werkgeheugen, B450 moederbord in een Dragon Venuz gamer behuizing met een zijpaneel van

Sorry for the spam, long links

ToTimesTwoIsToo 23-Jan-19 08:20 AM

generally speaking those look pretty good, but I'll take a closer look. going to run to meeting, will reply when I get back in a couple of hours!

wouter 23-Jan-19 08:21 AM

Things like Ryzen 1600 vs i5 8400 I'm unsure about, pc benchmarks tells me they're pretty similar

Sure man thanks for the help, good luck!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 23-Jan-19 10:23 AM

those are all pretty fairly priced

i think i'd go i5 8400 over the r5 1600

but I would probably go r5 2600x over the i5 8400

if you are playing at 1080p, an rtx 2060 is probably going to be more than enough

if you wish to play at higher resolutions or higher refresh rates, maybe consider the rtx 2070

oh and the 2600 + rtx 2060 is good too

the only one not worth the cost is the r5 1600 build

the other options are good though

wouter 23-Jan-19 10:33 AM

Sending you a pm

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Jan-19 02:49 PM

interesting prebuilt on walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/CLX-SET-GAMING-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2060-6GB-GDDR6-8GB-Memory-1TB-HDD-120GB-SSD-Storage-MS-Windows-10-Home-Battlefield-V-Anthem-Game-/566208780

CLX SET GAMING AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR...

Free Shipping. Buy CLX SET GAMING AMD Ryzen 3 2200G, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6, 8GB Memory, 1TB HDD + 120GB SSD Storage MS Windows 10 Home - and Battlefield V + Anthem - Game Bundle at Walmart.com

not sure how I feel about it

pepepepepe 26-Jan-19 11:25 AM

Someone posted this deal before and I am wondering if it's worth it. I am still deciding whether doing prebuilt or build it myself. I tried checking how much it would be to buy each component to built a similar PC but can't figure it out and find all the same parts. Would appreciate all the help since I'm a PC noob https://flash.newegg.com/Product/N82E16883102548?SID=25492caa219a11e9851b82142f90b8d80INT&AID=10446076&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Slickdeals%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Slickdeals+LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=12087162&PID=4485850&SID=25492caa219a11e9851b82142f90b8d80INT&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals+LLC&cjevent=25815b03219a11e981b202450a240612

ABS Gem Gaming Desktop PC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Intel Core ...

ABS Gem Gaming Desktop PC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Intel Core i7-8700K (3.70 GHz) 6-Core 16 GB DDR4 240 GB SSD 2 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit ALI254 at NeweggFlash! On NeweggFlash.com, you get the chance to save as much as 75% on practically anything you’d like to buy.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Jan-19 12:04 PM

@pepepepepe I replied to your reddit thread

pepepepepe 26-Jan-19 12:12 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Thanks! That's what I was also wondering, I couldn't really find too much online regarding the quality of ABS' builds. Do you know what type of problems have people talked about? Also what is an RMA?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Jan-19 12:18 PM

RMA means returning the product

go to new and type ABS desktop into the search bar and start reading some of the reviews

not sure of the specifics

some people mention dead-on-arrivals, system crashes, etc

you'll also notice their prices are incredibly competitive, which I believe reflects their quality control issues

this isn't to say their problems are unique -- you might get similar issues with dell, hp, ibuypower, cyberpowerpc, etc. But my hunch is that the problems occur more frequently with ABS

pepepepepe 26-Jan-19 12:25 PM

Very informative, thanks! I'll keep doing some more research but end up purchasing this one since it is best deal I've seen prebuilt. One last question, the one you linked in Reddit had a 2070 GPU, is that noticeably better than the 1080 that comes with this one?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Jan-19 12:25 PM

2070 is only slightly faster

they are pretty equal in preformance really

of course with the 2070 you get rtx and potentially better driver support in the future

not a big consideration in my opinion

RTX probably really won't take off until the 3000 or 4000 rtx series

pepepepepe 26-Jan-19 12:29 PM

Thanks a ton! Appreciate the insight, I'm making the switch from console at the moment and trying to learn as much as possible

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Jan-19 12:32 PM

cool, it's a really nice system! the 8700K is one of the top-of-line CPUs for gaming

the rtx 2070 is one of the best gpus at the moment that is actually worth the price tag

I would pair this with a nice 1440p IPS monitor, or a 1080p 144hz monitor

pepepepepe 26-Jan-19 12:40 PM

I think I'll go with the 1080p 144hz, I also want to eventually get a 2nd monitor

Zion 27-Jan-19 03:15 PM

No bueno

1440 is beautiful

Ethan 28-Jan-19 08:29 AM

Looking to switch from a 2015 MB Air to a Windows machine. Anyone have a suggestion?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Jan-19 08:31 AM

is this for gaming? @Ethan

Ethan 28-Jan-19 08:31 AM

Mostly school, potentially gaming (although would be light stuff, nothing resource intensive obv)

School and programming mostly

I'm relatively new to actual parts and stuff so I have no idea wtf I'm talking about half of the time

I made a post on the sub https://old.reddit.com/r/suggestapc/comments/akp2id/suggestions/

Suggestions?

Looking for a decent laptop around $400-$500 max. Will be used for school and occasionally games, although nothing super intensive (Stuff like...

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Jan-19 08:34 AM

this subreddit is more for PC towers. But there is a /r/suggestalaptop you should definitely check out as they'll be more in tune to current laptop deals and pricing trends

they have a discord too! https://discord.gg/A56eB8

Ethan 28-Jan-19 08:35 AM

Ah, my bad.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Jan-19 08:35 AM

no problem! I think many of us could help, but I just know those guys over there are especially rehearsed in the world of laptops, and I want you to get the best laptop for your money

Mark 28-Jan-19 04:26 PM

Holy shit @Littlepip that's a damn good deal.

Littlepip 28-Jan-19 04:27 PM

Yeah

Im builidjg my own pc after last issue already ordered the parts but if i saw that

Might have just gotten that

Better than the black friday deals

Mark 28-Jan-19 05:03 PM

oh nice, good luck with that

Johnny 28-Jan-19 05:13 PM

dang thats some really nice storage

RedstoneEngine 28-Jan-19 11:39 PM

Hi everyone! What's the cheapest computer I can get that will run civ v at normal settings? Here are the requirements Minimum Requirements: CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz CPU Speed: Info ram: 2GB os: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7 Video Card: 256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics Pixel Shader: 3.0 Vertex Shader: 3.0 Sound Card: Yes Free Disk Space: 8 GB Dedicated Video RAM: 256 MB Recommended Requirements: CPU: Info CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU ram: 4 GB os: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7 Video Card: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better Pixel Shader: 4.0 Vertex Shader: 4.0 Sound Card: Yes Free Disk Space: 8 GB Dedicated Video RAM: 512 MB

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Jan-19 02:28 PM

@RedstoneEngine something like this should run it fine https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883101687&Description=acer%20i5%208400&cm_re=acer_i5_8400-_-83-101-687-_-Product

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Tatsumaki BOT 29-Jan-19 02:28 PM

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dinoman 29-Jan-19 02:28 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo the deal u posted in #recommended-deals was 699 yesterday

i was gonna get that

(edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Jan-19 02:29 PM

if you are willing to go refurb you can probably get something cheaper, so let me know

@dinoman yeah I saw it was out of stock now :/

Deleted User 29-Jan-19 02:30 PM

Guys, I have the most stupidest question ever asked on this discord, as in, your grandma would ask you this.

dinoman 29-Jan-19 02:30 PM

ok ask

Deleted User 29-Jan-19 02:31 PM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LpHB6s is there something missing in order for me to have a complete tower?

I know, mega dumb, but I have no one in my life that I can ask lol

dinoman 29-Jan-19 02:31 PM

that looks pretty complete

i think

Deleted User 29-Jan-19 02:31 PM

Awesome!

This 20yo grandma thanks you so much

dinoman 29-Jan-19 02:32 PM

double check first lol with other builds

xd

Deleted User 29-Jan-19 02:33 PM

Will do!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Jan-19 02:34 PM

@Deleted User do you have access to windows 10?

Deleted User 29-Jan-19 02:34 PM

Yes, someone will build it for me and has that covered, thankfully

I'm sure I'd make something explode

💕 コード：002 💕 29-Jan-19 02:48 PM

whoops

i have fucked up

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evtx 29-Jan-19 02:54 PM

Hi folks, a friend is looking to buy: https://www.amazon.com/Mantis-i7-8700K-GeForce-Windows-Computer/dp/B01N5AY8N8?th=1 Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. This would be his first gaming PC.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Jan-19 03:07 PM

well it's pretty much top of the line in gaming

price seems fair for those parts

if he wants to save a bit of money, he could consider this one https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227875&Description=rtx%202080%20ti&cm_re=rtx_2080_ti-_-83-227-875-_-Product

will perform nearly identically, but $500 less

@evtx

dinoman 29-Jan-19 03:54 PM

can anyone review dis tell if it's ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cD9cLJ

Johnny 29-Jan-19 03:59 PM

So the folks at r/buildapc say a400 SSDs are bad; https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286168815585198080/539957478310412288/image0.png

@dinoman

dinoman 29-Jan-19 04:30 PM

Ahh

Zaphod B 29-Jan-19 04:31 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo thanks for your input, i joined on phone with different name

Zion 29-Jan-19 08:14 PM

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102514&ignorebbr=1

ABS TUF Gaming Desktop PC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB Intel i7-87...

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This seems a too good to be true deal

Johnny 29-Jan-19 08:32 PM

Yeep

Littlepip 29-Jan-19 08:38 PM

Not really

Mark 29-Jan-19 08:56 PM

It's not a 'too good to be true' deal but a pretty good one nonetheless.

Johnny 29-Jan-19 08:59 PM

Ive had bad experiences with ABS, maybe just got unlucky tho

💕 コード：002 💕 29-Jan-19 10:44 PM

congrats on promotion @Littlepip

Littlepip 29-Jan-19 10:49 PM

💕 コード：002 💕 29-Jan-19 11:00 PM

feel free to PM me if you need anything.

Johnny 30-Jan-19 06:19 AM

wtf is a qtx 1070

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Littlepip 30-Jan-19 07:01 AM

Typo more than likely

dinoman 30-Jan-19 01:57 PM

What's the most similar graphic card to the radeon rx 580 in terms of performance? Like 1050,1050 ti, 1060 3gb /6 gb?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Jan-19 01:58 PM

gtx 1060

pretty similar to both the 3gb and 6gb versions

ignoring vram

dinoman 30-Jan-19 02:01 PM

If you had to pick, 1060 3gb or rx 580 4gb

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Jan-19 02:03 PM

I'd pick whatever is cheaper at the moment

they perform almost identically, maybe on average 2 fps difference

the rx 580 might be 2 fps faster

on average

dinoman 30-Jan-19 02:04 PM

nice

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-Jan-19 02:05 PM

but really you might try to shoot for the 6gb or 8gb vram cards

it might be difference between running ultra vs high textures

dinoman 30-Jan-19 02:06 PM

lower budget

If that deal goes up again with the hp r2700 and rx580 for 700 bux im copping

Illustrate 01-Feb-19 04:24 AM

Hi

Hadoku 01-Feb-19 12:39 PM

so when you guys look for prebuilts do you go to IBUYPOWER, Cyberpower, newegg?

Johnny 01-Feb-19 01:24 PM

I usually just go to all the retailer websites and look for good deals like bestbuy, newegg, canada computers etc.

Jarrod 02-Feb-19 05:37 PM

Hey! is anyone able to tell me what pc is a better deal seeing they are both the same price but different specs, https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45301/pccg-hellfire-2070-gaming-system https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45133/pccg-gunmetal-2070-gaming-system

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Littlepip 02-Feb-19 05:43 PM

theyre extremely identical, only differences being ram speed and motherboard

these also seem quite overpriced

Jarrod 02-Feb-19 05:45 PM

its in AUD

Littlepip 02-Feb-19 05:45 PM

ah

Jarrod 02-Feb-19 05:46 PM

im gonna go w the hellfire one

w the asus motherbaord

Littlepip 02-Feb-19 05:47 PM

they'll perform the same pretty much anyway

Jarrod 02-Feb-19 05:47 PM

will that build be able to run anything at a decent rate?

Littlepip 02-Feb-19 05:47 PM

games?

Jarrod 02-Feb-19 05:48 PM

yea primarily

Littlepip 02-Feb-19 05:48 PM

yes, ive used a 2070 graphics card pc before. runs games very well

watch some benchmark videos if ya wanna see it in action

Jarrod 02-Feb-19 05:49 PM

sweet thank you

Littlepip 02-Feb-19 05:50 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doCZx1B1uFk

EXTJamaikano

RTX 2070 | Benchmark FPS Test | 1080p

All benchmarks are at 1080p and Ultra Settings. I tested more games like Rocket League, Bioshock Infinite, League of Legends, CSGO... but the framerate is ab...

Edwith 05-Feb-19 12:53 PM

Hello. I have been lurking for a bit because I have been looking to get a new computer for gaming but do not know if I want to build or buy premade. Is there that much bang fo the buck difference between pre built or self built?

My main needs are for gaming

I dont stream and only do minimal school work. I am hoping to have my PC be relevant for about 5 years. Knowing that I will have to buy new GPU's more then likely

Thanks for the time.

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:00 PM

youd save money building, and could get more reputable parts

the core features are the selling point though, Ram, cpu and gpu

everything else is usually hidden

places like ibuypower and cyberpower just seem overpriced

unless theres a sale

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:02 PM

Ok how is the difficulty of building. My last build was when p3s were high end

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:02 PM

probably easier today than it's ever been

picking the parts has become easier because of compatibility checkers. Assembling is probably more or less the same

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:03 PM

Ok because I had a small problem on that last build that made me shy away from building since

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:03 PM

what was the problem?

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:03 PM

I built my own pc after receiving a faulty skytech computer, first time building

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:04 PM

I couldn't get the bios to flash back then on the initial start ip.

Rest of getting it together was about 2 hours getting that done took days

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:05 PM

flashing is probably easier today

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:05 PM

My frame of reference is skewed a bit

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:05 PM

and, you usually shouldn't need to flash

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:05 PM

Yah I figured I was talking cavemen

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:05 PM

as long as you aren't getting a chipset that was just released, then the new mobos should be shipping with stable bios

Kabari 05-Feb-19 01:06 PM

can a hdmi plug get me 144hz on this monitor

AOC G2590FX 25" Framless Gaming Monitor, FHD 1920x1080, 1ms, 144Hz, G-SYNC Compatible+AdaptiveSync, 96% sRGB, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D377Q6D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_AQFwCbSJ326M7

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:06 PM

i dont think hdmi can do 144hz

Kabari 05-Feb-19 01:06 PM

e

i heard Hdmi 1.4 and 2.0 can support it

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:06 PM

it should come with a dp cable

Kabari 05-Feb-19 01:07 PM

ya but i want to connect my laptop to it

And my laptop doesnt have a displayport plug

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:07 PM

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-DisplayPort-to-HDMI-Adapter/dp/B015OV4Z0A

could try an adapter

i heard hdmi only goes to 120hz but idk for sure

Kabari 05-Feb-19 01:08 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:08 PM

i think 144hz is supported for 1080p https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video

HDMI

HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) is a proprietary audio/video interface for transmitting uncompressed video data and compressed or uncompressed digital audio data from an HDMI-compliant source device, such as a display controller, to a compatible computer monitor, ...

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:08 PM

@Littlepip @ToTimesTwoIsToo thanks for the information. I will look at a building site and do you guys care if I run my parts list in this discord before I buy t make sure I am not being dumb?

Tatsumaki BOT 05-Feb-19 01:08 PM

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ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:09 PM

@Edwith yeah you can get advice here on your build, just post a link

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:09 PM

Roger that

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:12 PM

this is what i have, just subtract the gpu im buying that tommorow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hf69dX

also subtract 100 dollars

about 1630$usd

Got windows free

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:14 PM

Thanks for the idea.

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:14 PM

a similar build on nzxt bld would cost about 1900Ish

Edwith 05-Feb-19 01:15 PM

If I may ask what is your main use?

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:15 PM

gaming

/streaming, but i use nvenc for streaming

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:18 PM

I think going for the 9700K for an extra $25 is worth it

for future proofing

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:19 PM

i saw benchmarks and didnt see much a difference

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:19 PM

right now there probably won't be much of a difference as both the 8700K and 9700K are plenty for modern gaming

but the trend is more cores, so in 5 years those 2 extra cores might be handy

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:21 PM

for sure

4 cores is outdated

being at 6 is annoying lul

good enough

Right in that middle ground

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:23 PM

yeah 6 cores is fine for now, i'd be happy with that

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:23 PM

wait the 9700k has 8 cores? i didnt know that

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:23 PM

you have the 2600 or the 8600?

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:23 PM

hm?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:24 PM

oh you said you have a 6 core cpu?

or were you speaking generally

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:24 PM

yeah the i7 8700k

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:25 PM

the hyperthreading helps it quite a bit though

even when 8 cores becomes standard, 6core12 thread cpus should be mostly ok

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:25 PM

yeah itll be good, and my motherboard is compatable with 9th gen

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Feb-19 01:26 PM

i see. sheesh I can't imagine a time where the 8700K isn't enough for gaming

ridiculous

hope it's not because of lazy programming and just developing games to use more cores with low utilization vs fewer cores with more utilization

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 01:28 PM

maybe like 10 yrs itll start to show its age

lol

Before building my pc the part i was most nervous about the installing the cpu, but it turned out to be the easiest part of the build process

Johnny 05-Feb-19 02:29 PM

Ive never built so i have no idea.. but for me, Id think the CPU is the most stressfull part..you bend some of those pins and youre fucked

Littlepip 05-Feb-19 02:30 PM

Youd think that but its quite foolproof once you get down to it

So easy

If you can get motherboard and io shield installed the rest is a cakewalk ( as long as theres no stripped screws)

My biggest issue was stripped screws on the case

timebo 07-Feb-19 06:39 AM

https://gizmodo.com/amds-radeon-vii-is-a-solid-gaming-card-but-thats-just-1832412200

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Mark 07-Feb-19 06:48 AM

Interesting, though I have a feeling that it's more of a test of AMD's 7nm output capabilities rather than an actual card targeted towards consumers. (edited)

1

Littlepip 07-Feb-19 06:53 AM

jaystwocents , linus and gamers nexus got a vid up on it

Mark 07-Feb-19 06:59 AM

I'll take a look at it when I can. Did they have a review unit?

Littlepip 07-Feb-19 07:00 AM

yes i believe so

Johnny 07-Feb-19 10:14 AM

Cant wait for their Navi units

Mycall 07-Feb-19 12:17 PM

Would you guys recommend at 1060 6gb 16gb ram, or 2070 with 8GB of ram for £100 more?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Feb-19 12:20 PM

what monitor and refresh rate do you with to play at

and do you want to play the most modern games available?

@Mycall

Mycall 07-Feb-19 12:35 PM

My laptop is an old one that barely runs any games past 2011. A friend gave me his old monitor which has a refresh rate of £60 and costs £200 for a new one, so I’ll be playing at 60hz until I can afford an upgrade to a 144hz

And yes I want to play all modern games

On medium/high. I don’t care about ultra.

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Feb-19 12:45 PM

so 1080p resolution I assume?

for 1080p @ 60hz 1060 6gb is plenty

for 144hz or 1440p, the 2070 would be recommended

also can you send the pc links?

personally I think i'd rather have the 2070 + 8gb of RAM than a 1060 and 16 gb of RAM. It's easier and cheaper to add 8gb of RAM than to do a GPU upgrade.

Mycall 07-Feb-19 02:26 PM

Yes 1080p

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/specialist-gaming-pcs/pbm/ccl-warlock-gs-gaming-pc/

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That’s the 2070 one (edited)

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/gaming-pcs/ryzen/ccl-ryzen-gs-gaming-pc/

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That’s the 1060 one (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Feb-19 03:03 PM

yeah that is good RAM too, so I'd buy the 2070 then add a matching 1x8 stick later on

the 2070 has much better future proofing ability than the 1060

I think it's worth the extra cost

Littlepip 07-Feb-19 08:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLJNNUd79ko&t= @Mark

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Mark 07-Feb-19 08:27 PM

alright I'll bookmark that thanks for all the info

Mig 08-Feb-19 11:01 AM

Hi everyone, will the most recent desktop on special deals run games like Overwatch and Fortnite smoothly? I have limited knowledge about PCs ([$375] ryzen 2200g + 8gb RAM https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/8174626/Lenovo-IdeaCentre-510A-Desktop-PC-AMD/) *and adobe programs such as photoshop/illustrator/indesign ? (edited)

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ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Feb-19 11:18 AM

@Mig it will run overwatch and fortnite quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1hPqKRMoBY

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and should be good for some basic photoshop tasks

I would consider this one as well https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/5114622/HP-Pavilion-590-p0076-Desktop-PC/

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more powerful cpu and gpu

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Feb-19 11:31 AM

I think it would be worth the extra $75

Mig 08-Feb-19 11:50 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Thank you so much

Mig 08-Feb-19 11:58 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo So is the second option you gave me the most reasonable option at the moment for Overwatch, Fortnite, and Adobe programs?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Feb-19 12:00 PM

I'd say it's the better option, but both are good for the price (edited)

the 2400g is hyperthreaded, so it has 4 extra threads compared to the 2200g. A lot of modern applications can ulitize these extra threads for better performance

including a lot of games

Mig 08-Feb-19 12:11 PM

Alright awesome thank you

💕 コード：002 💕 08-Feb-19 06:52 PM

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Mark 08-Feb-19 07:53 PM

Really liking this server stats bar.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Feb-19 07:59 PM

@💕 コード：002 💕 thanks! just chilling at home playing tf2

💕 コード：002 💕 08-Feb-19 08:00 PM

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. CopWatch 09-Feb-19 08:19 AM

Hi

Deleted User 09-Feb-19 08:56 AM

Hi everyone! I am looking for a gaming PC that is around $500 USD or less that will play games such as Fortnite, Apex Legends or Overwatch smoothly. Can anyone help me with this?

Thank you.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 09-Feb-19 09:21 AM

@. CopWatch hihi

@Deleted User https://www.microcenter.com/product/504726/aspire-gx-785-ur1d-desktop-computer

Acer Aspire GX-785-UR1D Desktop Computer - Micro Center

Deleted User 09-Feb-19 11:36 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Thank you

are there any cheaper PCs? I wanna look at the options

Deleted User 09-Feb-19 12:17 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Possibly around $400-$500?

Johnny 09-Feb-19 01:31 PM

@Deleted User not as high specced but something to consider https://m.newegg.com/products/9SIAHT38MD6837

However investing into that acer aspire will take you a long way

Mycall 09-Feb-19 02:02 PM

Is the stock cooler for the AMD 2600 good enough

Same with the 2070

Mike 09-Feb-19 05:01 PM

ryzen 5 2600/2700? ofc

as long as you dont try any crazy overclocking or anything

tosha31 10-Feb-19 01:29 PM

Anyone know of any good laptop deals

ToTimesTwoIsToo 10-Feb-19 01:50 PM

@tosha31 try here too https://discord.gg/BsUcsS

whydoyouhateme 11-Feb-19 04:50 AM

Can anyone suggest me the cheapest possible PC that can run Apex Legends?

i made a post on the subreddit but thought i should ask here aswell

Brajany 11-Feb-19 06:29 AM

https://www.amazon.com.au/Origin-PC-Esports-Desktop-Windows/dp/B07D7SFN4L/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1549893479&sr=1-7&pi=AC_SX118_SY170_QL70&dpPl=1&dpID=41Rwrk2%2BKTL&ref=plSrch

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LookingforaPC 11-Feb-19 09:49 AM

Hiiii everyone! is there a decent Gaming PC ranging from $300~$400?

USD

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Feb-19 10:31 AM

hard to find anything in that price range. What I'd do is a buy a refurbished desktop off of ebay or amazon, then add a gtx 1050 ti to it

if you want to play some basic games, you might consider this https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/8174626/Lenovo-IdeaCentre-510A-Desktop-PC-AMD/

Lenovo IdeaCentre 510A Desktop PC AMD Ryzen 3 8GB Memory 1TB Hard ...

Built for smooth performance and vivid graphics the Lenovo IdeaCentre 510A lets you take work and entertainment to the next level. This model includes plenty of ports you can use to connect accessories as well as Bluetooth for wireless pairing. -Office Depot

to get an idea of what the 2200g is capable of (edited)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sM-yAsiydU

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Brajany 11-Feb-19 10:40 AM

What games would you be playing @LookingforaPC?

LookingforaPC 11-Feb-19 11:22 AM

@Brajany Overwatch, Apex, Call of Duty, Fortnite

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Would it be able to play Overwatch or Fortnite at a decent rate?

Brajany 11-Feb-19 01:24 PM

You will not find a PC that can run Apex Legends at 400 dollars, at least, not right now.

LookingforaPC 11-Feb-19 01:46 PM

How about the other games?

Brajany 11-Feb-19 01:52 PM

There's this one.

https://www.frys.com/product/9048487?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

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You can run Fortnite on this, as well as Overwatch.

On pretty good settings too.

Mycall 11-Feb-19 01:57 PM

Can I get a non 1060 gaming pc with an i5 8400 equivalent or better computer for £999 or below?

LookingforaPC 11-Feb-19 01:58 PM

@Brajany Aww man it’s sold out where I am and there’s no delivery option :/ thank you though!

Is there anything else like that deal?

Brajany 11-Feb-19 02:02 PM

I'll keep looking for you dude.

@LookingforaPC

https://www.frys.com/product/8356667?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Asus M52BC-US003s Desktop PC with AMD FX-8300 Processor,8GB Memory...

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How about that?

@Mycall

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102543

Mycall 11-Feb-19 03:22 PM

Damn that’s a pretty nice computer

I forgot to mention though I need it on finance

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/specialist-gaming-pcs/pbm/ccl-warlock-gs-gaming-pc/

CCL Warlock GS Gaming PC | CCL Computers

CCL Warlock GS Gaming PC. 3.4GHz AMD Ryzen 5-2600 with 8GB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics - 8GB RAM, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD

This is the best I’ve found so far but I’d need to upgrade the fan and ram which makes it £1100 which is too much

And I don’t even need the 2070, it’s overkill.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Feb-19 05:13 PM

@Mycall why do you need to upgrade the fan and ram

Mycall 11-Feb-19 05:14 PM

Fan is the default one which will do a bad job and will be noisy and 8GB of ram is way too low

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Feb-19 05:14 PM

what about this https://www.ebuyer.com/869679-chillblast-onslaught-extreme-1070ti-gaming-pc-cbfusonsex

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Mycall 11-Feb-19 05:15 PM

Cpu is kinda weak

And it comes with windows 10 which adds an unnecessary £100 extra to it (you can get windows 10 for £9) but I’ll look into it

Thanks

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Feb-19 05:16 PM

so you want an i7 or an r7 then?

Mycall 11-Feb-19 05:17 PM

Nah I5/R5

2600 or I5 8400 is perfect

16gb of ram and a graphics card which is better than the 1060

1070, 1070ti, 2060, 2070 for example

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Feb-19 05:18 PM

https://www.ebuyer.com/859689-cyberpower-gaming-paladin-i5-8400-gtx-1070-ebu081811

Cyberpower Gaming Paladin i5-8400 GTX 1070

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Mycall 11-Feb-19 05:19 PM

That’s actually pretty good

Yeah something like that

Thank you

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Feb-19 05:23 PM

maybe check out fierce pc gaming

i just configured an i5 8400 + rtx 2060 + 16gb RAM for 873 pounds

@Mycall

LookingforaPC 11-Feb-19 07:25 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Thank you but that is sold out as well! Sorry to keep bothering you

Deleted User 12-Feb-19 06:42 AM

Hey gusy

I'm looking to buy a prebuilt under ~$2,000 after monitor, computer

need 32gb ram minimum prefer 64gb

is that doable?

w/ decent specs across the board

Brajany 12-Feb-19 07:26 AM

Any particular reason you need a minimum of 32 GB of RAM? Or, are you just trying to run 7 tabs of Chrome?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-desktop-intel-core-i7-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-2tb-hard-drive-480gb-solid-state-drive-white/6306246.p?skuId=6306246

Deleted User 12-Feb-19 07:36 AM

I have 16gb rn and run out of ram

does cyberpowerpc typically build good products?

Brajany 12-Feb-19 07:48 AM

Eh, good is subjective? Objective? Which ever the one that means "Your opinion", anyways I wouldn't say they're "Amazing", really, any prebuilt, but do they work? Do they have some form of customer service? The answer is yes.

Keith 13-Feb-19 02:43 AM

Are we on core gen 8 or core gen 9 these days

Brajany 13-Feb-19 06:38 AM

9th generation is the newest, but, 8th generation is still relevant.

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:19 PM

Are there any cases where pre-built "gaming" computers at the high-end (rtx 2080ti etc.) are cheaper than building it yourself?

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:20 PM

dont think there is even a cheap one. its the building costs u have to pay for

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:20 PM

Well some companies just charge an assembly fee after you pick all the parts.

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:20 PM

ye

just like free products

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:20 PM

there are cases like that though yes, although while they cpu and gpu is nice , they usually skimp out on other parts, just comes to luck

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:20 PM

but 27$ shupping

shipping*

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:21 PM

It just seems to me if you buy 4000-5000$ of parts in a bulk package it should come cheaper than buying all the parts.

It never works that way though.

Granted it's hard to even find an enthusiast computer build. When they list the ram/videocard/processor and don't list the other components you know they're crap.

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:22 PM

yeh id go with nzxt with a prebuilt

even though they charge 99 for windows and 99 build fee, itd be worth to probably not run into issues

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:23 PM

if u dont know what u are doing do that ^

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:23 PM

Yeah my last computer had some occasional BSD that I never quite tracked down.

Or was infrequent enough that I didn't want to I guess.

In Canada here.

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:24 PM

my last pc had a bad psu and hdd and ssd, possibly the motherboard even

prebuilt from skytech

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:25 PM

tbf just get a prebuilt. invest in motherboard and storage

and ram

get a shit gpu

and upgrade that gpu later

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:25 PM

er a nice psu too

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:25 PM

when u have more money

and a great psu aswell ofcourse

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:26 PM

seasonic/ evga

corsair

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:26 PM

My current computer is using gtx 970 and i7 4790k and all good parts.

It's not a "need" it's a "want" and wanting to not spend more than I have to.

I was all good until I bought that ultra-wide.

lol

1080p was fine until that happened.

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:28 PM

well you do need good parts though thats the thing

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:28 PM

ye same with my dad. he doesnt play gpu intensive games so he has a 1050, he used to have a amd radeon r7 240 2gb ^^

but a good cpu for that time

with motherboard and a shit ton of power lmao

he had like 600 watt

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:29 PM

Yeah I want all good parts and will pay for them, just was curious if there was a pre-built out there that came at a more attractive price than ordering the parts.

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:29 PM

nah

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 01:29 PM

i believe not

Stefan 13-Feb-19 01:29 PM

cuz 1 site has a psu cheaper

and the other site has a ssd cheaper

just depends

Lord Andernut 13-Feb-19 01:30 PM

I usually would buy from a site with price-matching that carries the majority of the parts.

Thanks for the advice!

Mycall 13-Feb-19 04:54 PM

Ordered my pc

Quick question

It has the 2060 but it says “OC”

Will overclocked GPU’s last less than regular ones?

I want this to last 4+ years

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 04:59 PM

Gpus last a long time

Normally by time you have to replace itll just have become outdated

Littlepip 13-Feb-19 05:20 PM

overclock wont change that much

Mycall 14-Feb-19 03:07 AM

Just making sure thanks

Btw the computer comes with division 2 and bf5 or anthem for free

Any idea when I’ll get them? With my pc? Or an email?

Littlepip 14-Feb-19 03:07 AM

what site

Mycall 14-Feb-19 03:33 AM

CLLonline

Littlepip 14-Feb-19 03:34 AM

mm never heard of it dunno

Littlepip 14-Feb-19 04:47 AM

With walmart though for me it said within 30 days of purchase

with my rtx 2080 purchase

Debord 15-Feb-19 01:56 PM

hi, i play games like ESO and Overwatch. id like to get a 1440 resolution monitor at 144hz with a TN panel, was trying to build my own computer to match those settings using logical increments website but the site went over budget fast. is it possible to get PC for around 1k that works with those settings for OW/eso? id be spending 250-350 more on the monitor open to suggestions of which to get but ive been eyeing https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XG270HU-omidpx-FREESYNC-Widescreen/dp/B00VRCLHYS?th=1

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Feb-19 02:14 PM

@Debord i would get this and then add 8gb of RAM https://www.walmart.com/ip/Skytech-RTX-2060-Version-Archangel-Elite-Gaming-Computer-Desktop-PC-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-3-4-GHz-RTX-2060-6G-8GB-DDR4-500GB-SSD-Windows-10-Home-Battlefie/704306361?u1=0e94b328316f11e98dc6967b084cc5f50INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=16135661811798076467&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

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rtx 2060 should be good enough to run those games at 1440p 144hz

Debord 15-Feb-19 02:38 PM

what do you think of the monitor? or is there a better one i can get for that price? also have you used the rtx? that price seems a bit too good to be true but idk maybe ive been looking at the wrong stuff this whole time

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Feb-19 02:45 PM

yeah it's a good price considering building your own will put you over 950 easily https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qzXwbX

monitor seems fine btw

@Debord

Debord 15-Feb-19 02:48 PM

what do you use?

er for monitor

ty also should i put something likes this in it? https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=ddr4%20ram&Submit=ENE

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Feb-19 02:49 PM

I think you should match the RAM exactly

so maybe wait until you get the unit

and hopefully you can get a reasonably priced matching stick

mixing and matching RAM can sometimes lead to compatibility issues

I just have a regular old 1080p IPS monitor

so I can't speak to high end gaming monitors

and you'll want to add a 1x8 stick

to give you 16gb total

Debord 15-Feb-19 04:58 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo do you think a 3 year warrenty is best or does it come with a year warrenty? i cant find info on if it comes with one

taxes mark it up to 950 then the 3 year warrenty is another 50$

i guess im cutting corners here as thats in my exact price range but just wondering, never made this big of a purchase before

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Feb-19 05:15 PM

@Debord I think it comes with a one year warranty

https://skytechgaming.com/warranty/

skytechdemo

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which is probably good enough

I also don't know who good walmart's protection plan is

but $20 per year isn't too bad for a warranty

Debord 15-Feb-19 05:16 PM

yea ty all i need is a year, hopefully could upgrade by a year being over from this if possible

to 4k if theres like a drop this year

sgtgeezus 16-Feb-19 02:27 PM

Has anyone ever used ibuypower for a pc? If so any testimony?

Brajany 16-Feb-19 03:18 PM

My first PC, was iBuyPower, it's not amazing, but, not bad.

Mycall 17-Feb-19 08:12 AM

Do pre built computers suffer from overheating and noisy fans?

Brajany 17-Feb-19 08:25 AM

No, not unless you're overclocking.

Jatx 17-Feb-19 10:26 AM

Heya folks. Lookin for prebuilt pc suggestions. Trying to switch from console to pc gaming. Not necessarily looking for the best of the best because I’m not even sure I’ll enjoy it on pc. Made a Reddit post and figured I’d crosspost here to get some additional eyes. Looking for PCs to handle overwatch, wow, that kind of stuff

https://reddit.com/r/suggestapc/comments/arn21g/suggestion_prebuilt_gaming_pc_for_intro_to_pc/

r/suggestapc - [Suggestion] Prebuilt gaming pc for intro to pc gam...

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Mark 17-Feb-19 10:32 AM

Hi again, currently there aren't too many good sub $800 PC deals. This PC slots right against the top of your budget and will handle everything you mentioned in your Reddit post at 1080p max settings at around 90-110 fps https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-slate-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-1tb-hard-drive-240gb-solid-state-drive-black/6318345.p?skuId=6318345, maybe a little lower (like 70 fps) for Skyrim. I don't actually own that game but I imagine it is a bit more intensive. There's also this PC https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C8E60219&Description=rx%20580%20desktop&cm_re=rx_580_desktop-_-9SIA08C8E60219-_-Product which is going to perform similar to the one up above for about $100 cheaper. It might do slightly worse (think 5-10 fps at most) in some cases but it shouldn't be noticeable.

Nevermind, it'll do fine with Skyrim. Benchmark for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjTSThMEZt0

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Jatx 17-Feb-19 10:38 AM

Hey thanks

Mark 17-Feb-19 10:39 AM

No problem. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions.

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Mike 18-Feb-19 11:27 PM

@Jatx https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?reviews=all&Item=N82E16883102513&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL021519C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL021519C-_-EMC-021519-Latest-_-GamingDesktops-_-83102513-S0L&ignorebbr=1 $800 with promo code EMCSTVUA2 (edited)

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or https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102561&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL021519C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL021519C-_-EMC-021519-Latest-_-GamingDesktops-_-83102561-S3A2A&ignorebbr=1 for $100 more, which is worth it imo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Feb-19 03:04 PM

@Mark nice find on the rtx 2060 ibuypower one, it appears to have faster ram than the walmart skytech build, so I'll start recommending that one

also a lot more storage

Mark 19-Feb-19 03:08 PM

Thanks. It's starting to seem to me the 2060 is really starting to be the primary budget card for this generation. I've been recommending the one you found to everyone forever haha

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Feb-19 03:20 PM

yeah same here, it's been hard to find gtx 1070 -ish performance below 1000, so hopefully these rtx 2060 deals are persistent

henryy24 19-Feb-19 07:23 PM

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1372079-REG/cyberpowerpc_gamer_master_gma6400cpg_ryzen.html

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is this a good value

Littlepip 19-Feb-19 08:17 PM

its fine

Brajany 19-Feb-19 08:47 PM

That's a pretty decent deal.

Mike 19-Feb-19 10:27 PM

@henryy24 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102544&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Gaming+Desktop-_-N82E16883102544&gclid=CjwKCAiA767jBRBqEiwAGdAOry4wz41nvKRI6h3bQwxdqmY0-83O3dUe5W3qpO558Hgtv5UwFdOyzBoCtqwQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

$1100, ends in an hour

probably a better choice for you if you're just gaming

Beep 20-Feb-19 08:13 AM

guys i grabbed this and had problems right out of the box

https://www.walmart.com/ip/CLX-SET-GAMING-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-3-20GHz-8-Core-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-8GB-GDDR5-16GB-DDR4-RAM-1TB-HDD-120GB-SSD-Storage-MS-Windows-10-Home-Battlefie/875106230

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anything around the same price thats a gtx instead of an rtx?

Littlepip 20-Feb-19 08:18 AM

problems straight outta the box?

Beep 20-Feb-19 08:20 AM

everygame i open crashes instantly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/317469271351492618/547631382017474571/unknown.png

fortnite crashes with unreal engire error

seems to be an issue like this? https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1079886/geforce-rtx-20-series/first-gaming-pc-user-here-rtx-2070-keeps-crashing-anybody-else-facing-these-issues-/

Littlepip 20-Feb-19 08:26 AM

hm, never seen that before

did you update driver

latest nvidia one

Beep 20-Feb-19 08:28 AM

yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/317469271351492618/547815898397016084/unknown.png

cpu running crazy hot

Littlepip 20-Feb-19 08:29 AM

speccy shows wrong temps for ryzen cpus

its not actually 82C

Beep 20-Feb-19 08:30 AM

what should i use

open hardware monitor?

Littlepip 20-Feb-19 08:30 AM

try ryzen master

and hw monitor

Beep 20-Feb-19 08:33 AM

this isnt actually for me and for a friend

and he has given up hope and says he is returning it

any suggestion on a replacem,ent

Littlepip 20-Feb-19 08:33 AM

no

Beep 20-Feb-19 08:34 AM

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102502&ignorebbr=1

thoughts on this?

Littlepip 20-Feb-19 08:36 AM

No comment

just check reviews

Mark 20-Feb-19 09:13 AM

Not bad @Beep

If he doesn't have anything important I'd recommend factory resetting everything

1

Could be worth a try

dinoman 20-Feb-19 10:18 AM

Ay Everyone.. If it was same price.. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-series-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hard-drive-240gb-solid-state-drive-black/6290721.p?skuId=6290721 Or https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-128gb-solid-state-drive-shadow-black-with-a-brushed-hairline-pattern/6280606.p?skuId=6280606

If either goes on sale for 800 is what I mean cause I've seen them go lower

Major difference is 16gb ram and a ryzen 7 2700 cpu

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Feb-19 11:03 AM

hard to say, overall I trust cyberpowerpc prebuilts more than HP

ignoring quality of build and branding of parts, the HP has better parts (cpu, more ram) (edited)

Some reviewers of those HP systems complain of upgradability and such

both systems are going to perform very similarly in games, so it's not a big deal going for the cyberpowerpc

adding 8gb of RAM is straightforward and cheap

the 2600 is plenty for gaming

@dinoman

Mycall 20-Feb-19 11:05 AM

Aren’t prebuilds on those kind of websites thoroughly tested before shipping

Meaning they have a lower chance of encountering errors

But Walmart or whatever just puts them in a box and if it doesn’t work you bring it back

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Feb-19 11:06 AM

that is my impression

well, they should be, but thing slip through the cracks

some reviewers get dead-on-arrivals

or systems that die within weeks

so quality control can be variable across companies, and does matter in the end

dinoman 20-Feb-19 11:41 AM

thx

Mycall 20-Feb-19 11:58 AM

My computer comes with a 3 year warranty

Mike 20-Feb-19 01:00 PM

@Beep download hwinfo

and check temps again

the solution could be as simple as making sure the screws on the cpu cooler are tight enough and reseating the gpu, no need to return

Sincerely, Phoenix 20-Feb-19 07:47 PM

I'm getting a display of flickering pixels on screen from my new prebuilt

AmariBot BOT 20-Feb-19 07:47 PM

Sincerely, Phoenix

CONGRATS You are now level 1!!!

Sincerely, Phoenix 20-Feb-19 07:47 PM

Is that a GPU problem?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Feb-19 08:33 PM

@Sincerely, Phoenix do you have a tv you can connect your desktop to? to see if the problem occurs on a different display?

Sincerely, Phoenix 20-Feb-19 08:41 PM

i tested the monitor itself by hooking up my ps4

seems it was the computer

though I went to the Nvidia website to update my drivers, it fixed it

im not sure if i should be worried about it, or if the driver update was what caused it (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Feb-19 09:34 PM

very well could have been a driver issue. see if the issue remains resolved

Sincerely, Phoenix 20-Feb-19 09:47 PM

no issues so far, I'll have to keep their tech support ready just in case

I am getting a sort of ghosting effect on the video players of youtube

https://gyazo.com/41ab7baae6c2684e6ee2ec89e6336beb

Gyazo

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 12:25 AM

Looks like I need to send it in, definitely something wrong with the graphics card

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Feb-19 09:00 AM

@Sincerely, Phoenix you might consider running DDU -- display driver uninstaller by guru3d. IT will do a deep removal of drivers, then reinstall fresh drivers afterwards

if that doesn't work, you should probably send the unit back in

Johnny 21-Feb-19 11:40 AM

Also @Sincerely, Phoenix which company is it that you got the prebuilt from?

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 12:05 PM

@Johnny Cybertron

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 12:14 PM

This listing specifically https://www.walmart.com/ip/CLX-SET-GAMING-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-3-20GHz-8-Core-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-8GB-GDDR5-16GB-DDR4-RAM-1TB-HDD-120GB-SSD-Storage-MS-Windows-10-Home-Battlefie/875106230?athcpid=875106230&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVAV&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020&athguid=a213a2ea-443-16900cad4c7548&athena=true

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💕 コード：002 💕 21-Feb-19 02:58 PM

Hmm

Crashing to BSOD with factory new PC? @Sincerely, Phoenix

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 03:00 PM

Happened when I booted Apex Legends past the title screen

Was getting a lot of artifacting earlier before that, got a temporary fix by updating graphics driver

Then realized I couldn't get a game running

@💕 コード：002 💕

💕 コード：002 💕 21-Feb-19 03:03 PM

Artifacts usually means faulty GPU. You fixed it by upgrading your drivers you say? Or are you still having the same problem?

Also that ghost effect on youtube is also evidence of faulty GPU.

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 03:04 PM

It was a fix to the artifacting, yes. I still got the PC crash afterwards when trying to run Apex

💕 コード：002 💕 21-Feb-19 03:04 PM

You get a BSOD now whenever you try to load Apex?

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 03:06 PM

I loaded it about 3 times after it, the game would just crash when continuing past the title screen

All were graphics card related errors

💕 コード：002 💕 21-Feb-19 03:07 PM

Well, I'd try two things: 1. Try another game and see if you can load it up. 2. Try to "sfc /scannow" on admin CMD. I honestly think this is a hardware issue but you can still try those and see what happens. Do you have warranty/rma/etc?

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 03:08 PM

I've already contacted Cybertron Support via email. I was told that the GPU could have been damaged in shipping

Though the PC was well packaged with foaming

AmariBot BOT 21-Feb-19 03:08 PM

Sincerely, Phoenix

CONGRATS You are now level 2!!!

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 03:09 PM

I think I might have just gotten a dud

Sincerely, Phoenix 21-Feb-19 03:16 PM

Might be a bit tin foil hat here, but I also have a feeling that these prebuilts specifically were refurbished and relisted on Walmart

Mike 21-Feb-19 03:26 PM

have you tried reseating it

run a benchmark

like 3dmark firestrike

Mycall 21-Feb-19 05:02 PM

What are the first things to do when getting my pc

To ensure that it doesn’t have any faults

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Feb-19 05:06 PM

clean up programs and features to remove bloatware

make sure gpu drivers are up to date

then start running benchmarks

this stresses the parts and tests for stability, as well provide metrics

the metrics can be used to make sure everything is running as it should

userbenchmark is a good one to start with

run some video games and look up YT videos with your same parts, e.g. "far cry 5 i7 8700 rx 580"

also, you should probably take note of max temperatures during peak performance

both cpu and gpu should be below 80degrees celcius

you can use hwmonitor or msi afterburner to measure temps

also, other than removing what is in programs and features, don't worry so much about optimizing windows 10 -- windows 10 does a pretty good job of taking care of itself and you're like to mess things up with small tweaks that you'll find in a lot of guides online

just do the usual personal settings and let windows 10 be, don't mess with paging size or registry or anything like that

Mycall 21-Feb-19 05:16 PM

Any essential software I should get?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Feb-19 05:18 PM

naw, maybe chrome?

Mycall 21-Feb-19 05:18 PM

As in to measure the temps and stuff

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Feb-19 05:19 PM

i'd reocmmend msi afterburner and setup the osd to show fps and temps while in game, it will look like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m2CRoMTVB54/maxresdefault.jpg

Mycall 21-Feb-19 05:21 PM

Will that decrease any FPS?

My pc comes next week and I’m kinda nervous because I haven’t had something this expensive, ever. I’m 18, 19 next month. Got the monitor, keyboard, mouse, Ethernet cable ready. I really feel like I’m missing something but I’m probably just overthinking things.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Feb-19 05:27 PM

naw you should be good. just enjoy the machine. PCs are hard to mess up. worst case scenario you just hard reset windows and start again

the msi overlay might knock off a few fps, but not much

you'll just use it temporarily to monitor temps, so the fps wont' matter

when you play "for real" just don't run the overlay

Littlepip 21-Feb-19 05:37 PM

@Mycall I like checking userbenchmark

Runs a short stress test for everything

Shows ya results and you can compare to others with similar specs

Mike 21-Feb-19 05:57 PM

eh

userbenchmark is a pretty unreliable benchmark

3dmark is better

Littlepip 21-Feb-19 05:58 PM

not for gpu mainly, i meant for the other stuff

Mike 21-Feb-19 05:58 PM

still not good

Littlepip 21-Feb-19 05:58 PM

its not bad to do a single test though

doesnt hurt

Mike 21-Feb-19 05:58 PM

yea its ok

Littlepip 21-Feb-19 05:59 PM

not the end all benchmarks though ofc

just fast and shows you gen idea

Mike 21-Feb-19 05:59 PM

but just dont freak out when it shows ur in 20th percentile or something

💕 コード：002 💕 21-Feb-19 06:03 PM

I like userbenchmark

But that's just opinion

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Feb-19 07:19 PM

yeah i rely on userbenchmark a lot. But as people rightly point out, it doesn't capture realistic game conditions. However, I think it can catch egregious issues.

Trashpanda 24-Feb-19 02:44 AM

@Mycall I recommend getting Chromium instead of Chrome. Chromium is also free, but it has all the Chrome bloatware removed (aka Google tracking etc that can take up to 5% more CPU power).

Marcus 24-Feb-19 05:16 AM

Anyone seen any good prebuilts on a UK site around 800gbp? Don't fancy getting it shipped from USA

Trashpanda 24-Feb-19 05:22 AM

Just ordered prebuilt PC with this setup: Price: 2349 € - i7-9700K - RTX 2080 - 16 Gt RAM (DDR 4 2666Hz, 1 stick, 32GB max) - 512 SSD (M.2 PCIe) + 2T HDD (7200 rpm SATA) - No optical drive -Audio Dolby Atmos - Gigabit Ethernet, WiFi, Bluetooth 4.1 - Power: 500W - 130 W liquid cooling (edited)

Marcus 24-Feb-19 05:27 AM

Wish I had that budget haha , GPU went today

Trashpanda 24-Feb-19 05:27 AM

Well iv been saving for this setup like 6 months

thats 500 € each month to my savings

And I make like 1500 € (after taxes) each month

Take ~600 from that to rent

and 500 to savings and rest is for food and other commadations

Well to be honest now that I think it might been a bit longer than 6 month

Probably closer to a year

Mike 24-Feb-19 09:45 AM

@Trashpanda where are you from? looks a little expensive honestly

Trashpanda 24-Feb-19 10:22 AM

Mike

I'm from Finland

and I found a cheaper option

https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/44515/mbfgv/Lenovo-Legion-T730-poytakone-Win-10

Lenovo Legion T730 -pöytäkone, Win 10 2 349,90 €

Pelaajille suunniteltu tehokas pöytäkone erinomaisella jäähdytyksellä sekä täydellä RGB-valaistuksella.

Same PC with i7-9900K and 16G RAM

so a smal downgrade but 400 € cheaper

Mike 24-Feb-19 11:22 AM

@Trashpanda i9 9900k? that's not a downgrade from i7 9700k

Trashpanda 24-Feb-19 11:38 AM

The i7-9700k is the downgrade

Marcus 25-Feb-19 12:45 AM

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-gamer-amd-ryzen-5-2600-8gb-ddr4-6gb-evga-gtx-1660-ti-240gb-1tb-win-10?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8O-m5r7W4AIViM13Ch1ONQNsEAQYBiABEgIsCvD_BwE

Gaming PC with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti and AMD Ryzen 5 2600

Would probably upgrade the ram but is it a fair price?

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:12 AM

I don't know if that includes taxes, but, if it doesn't, you might want to look into this.

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16883102543

ABS Fort Gaming Desktop PC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB Intel C...

Buy ABS Fort Gaming Desktop PC NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB Intel Core i7-8700 (3.20 GHz) 6-Core 16 GB DDR4 240 GB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit ALI249 with fast shipping and top-rated customer service.Once you know, you Newegg!

Marcus 25-Feb-19 07:11 AM

Yeha it includes taxes 690 gbp without tax. I'll only play at 1080p now probably so don't need anything amazing, havnt got time to game as much anymore

Brajany 25-Feb-19 09:58 AM

Definitely the one I suggested, would perform well, it'll play nearly every game at max settings on as t least 60 FPS.

hershey 25-Feb-19 05:13 PM

What do you guys think of this? Should I buy it? https://www.amazon.ca/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

Preston M 25-Feb-19 05:15 PM

welp

just bought this

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883102544

based on reccomended deals

thanks @Brajany for posting it!

super excited!! first non laptop computer.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:28 PM

it's a great pc at a very good price, enjoy! @Preston M

I'll just mention that ABS tend to get unfavorable views -- there is a chance you'll get a dead on arrival or the system not performing up to par. I would aggressively test things as soon as you get it. If everything checks out and is stable for the first 2 weeks, you're probably in the clear

hershey 25-Feb-19 05:30 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo if you dont mind could you check out the pc i sent

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:31 PM

@Preston M be sure do some benchmarking with passmark and userbenchmark, maybe run an extended benchmark like unigine and prime95 to test for system stability (run for like 2 or 3 hours) checking temps throughout

btw these are good things to do with any prebuilt, not just that particular system (edited)

@hershey it's OK-ish about 1550 usd which is a little on the high side for an rtx 2070. But, not a bad deal by any means

it's a great pc

and from what I know pc parts are just more expensive in canada so

hershey 25-Feb-19 05:32 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo yea its just that I live In Canada and this ships from Canada so i dont have to pay 500 in duties

yea thats true

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:33 PM

let me double check and see if I can find you a better deal

but i really like that ibuypower

hershey 25-Feb-19 05:40 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo bro you really dont have to do that

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:40 PM

yeah that one seems like a good option after looking around (edited)

this one is also pretty good https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227879&Description=rtx%202070%20desktop&cm_re=rtx_2070_desktop-_-83-227-879-_-Product

the 8700K is probably the better cpu for gaming, so the one you linked is probably worth the extra cost

hershey 25-Feb-19 05:42 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Thanks for the help and advice man, I really appreciate it, have a good day.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:43 PM

@hershey np, enjoy the machine!

@Brajany sorry today was a bummer

things have been ok-ish for me, just relaxing and watching basketball atm

Brajany 25-Feb-19 05:45 PM

That's good.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:46 PM

thanks for helping out on this discord and in the subreddit -- you always give good advice

Brajany 25-Feb-19 05:46 PM

I have nothing better to do. (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:46 PM

i sometimes go through the responses to double check for troll responses, but when I get to your response I don't even bother reading haha i know it's going to be solid

AmariBot BOT 25-Feb-19 05:46 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo

CONGRATS You are now level 5!!!

Brajany 25-Feb-19 05:47 PM

Thanks.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 05:48 PM

where did you learn everything you know about pcs?

just dabbling here and there?

Brajany 25-Feb-19 05:49 PM

I mean, I was always into gaming, but, never had enough money to buy one, and, I've heard on YouTube, and Reddit that it's much cheaper, so, I built one.

I just, want to give back to the community.

That's all.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:00 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo i'm unsure what benchmarking with passmark and userbenchmark means? also how could i aggressively test things.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:00 PM

those are just programs you can download and run

it will test the various parts of you rpc

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:01 PM

okay well i'll have to be sure to get into discord and make sure i test eerything right! it does come with a 1 year warrenty

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:01 PM

yeah just hit me up when you get your pc and I can walk ya through it

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:01 PM

i have it feeling it will have a lot more power than my surface pro

super excited to game at 60-120 fps

also to have 10 tabs open lol

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:05 PM

yeah that pc will do all of those things and more

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:08 PM

i found someone selling this PC

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-area-51-r5-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-2tb-hard-drive-256gb-solid-state-drive-epic-silver/6204036.p?skuId=6204036&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=370&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1260666&ds_rl=1266837&ds_rl=1266837&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2L7jBRCBARIsAPeAsaM7YrCYGz7ceBpKzMxhJvnVC1KEGS20O8RtV5vqqbubi1pzVaKJMCIaAo7gEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

used for 1800

i know i just ordered that one on reccomended deals but still always looking

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:13 PM

the one you got is a much better deal

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

ok awesome

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

also 1800 is just too high for a gtx 1080 ti used machine

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

first big PC purchase

super excited and nervous

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

considering you can buy a new rtx 2080 for less than 1800

what monitor did you get?

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

I currently have a crummy monitor i bought for 40 bucks

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

You can get a brand new PC with a RTX 2080 for 1,500 USD, you're fine, don't buy a PC that is with a 1080 Ti for more than 1400. (edited)

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:14 PM

I'm looking at two right now

I'm looking at the acer predator x35p

annd

z35p*

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:15 PM

It would be in your best interest to get something with 240Hz.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:15 PM

i found this

Acer Predator Z35P Gaming Montior- Black 35" VA 4ms (GTG) 100 Hz, 3440 x 1440 21:9, NVIDI

for $500

and this Dell Ultra Sharp 34 Curved Ultra Wide Monitor - U3415W

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:16 PM

100Hz is not sufficient with a 1080 Ti.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:16 PM

for 350

okay hmm

not really sure what to get on monitors

i currently have a acer 60hz

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:17 PM

he doesn't have the ti version though

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:17 PM

https://express.google.com/product/Alienware-AW2518HF-25-LED-Monitor-FullHD/3121248262585432734_12603630588289993331_125181302?ved=0CAIQ0FUoAGoXChMI0camyobU4AIVFRRiCh0L0wr7EC0

Google Express

Get fast delivery of everyday essentials from stores like Costco, Walgreens, and Petsmart.

Oh.

Yeah, forgot.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:17 PM

yeah i ordered this one

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102544

this one is still good tho, i don't need ti?

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:17 PM

But, still, a 1080 is still good, especially if it's an online, competitive multiplayer game.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:17 PM

i'll be playing fortnite and apex

but main school, some minor video editing

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:18 PM

Yes, then, the monitor I linked, should be good.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:18 PM

holy crap, how do you find these good deals

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:18 PM

Nothing else to do.

Also, a general interest.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:20 PM

with the newegg build, would it be possible to upgrade the SSD?

I was told to get 500+GB SSD

also do you know if it would come with a power supply? i guess i didn't really think about it.

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:26 PM

Yes, this PC most definitely comes with a power supply, whether it's amazing, probably not, prebuilts are known for having just a good enough power supply to keep the system running without overclocking. I mean, you can get the SSD, but, it's not mandatory, SSDs are nice, but, not a necessity, unless it's for the operating system, there is no reason you shouldn't have your OS on an SSD, considering they go as low as 20 USDs for 128GBs.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:27 PM

ok perfect, i don't think i will need to overclock as i have no idea how to and i'm sure it will be fine without it!

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Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:27 PM

sweet level 1 lol

i think the OS is windows 10, i'll be sure to download it onto the ssd then

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:27 PM

lol nice you get a new spell and gear

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:27 PM

what are ssds used for?

hdd is storage i think

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-Feb-19 06:28 PM

ssds are also storage but must faster than hdd

and more reliable

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:29 PM

ah okay

should i store the games on hdd or sdd?

apex and fortnite

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:30 PM

It doesn't really matter too much on those games, really, the only game I've heard it makes a massive impact on is Arma 3.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:30 PM

do you think i'll be able to run these games at 100-120 fps?

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:30 PM

More than 100-120, probably closer to 240 at the lowest settings, but max view distance on Fortnite.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:31 PM

wow insane!

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:31 PM

Quite.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:31 PM

sure beats my 30 fps xbox lol

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:31 PM

Not sure about Apex Legends.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:31 PM

i have a feeling i will never want to go back!

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:32 PM

Yeah, the PC community is great, much more interactive than the console community, not to throw shade at them, but, it's just how the nature of it goes.

Preston M 25-Feb-19 06:32 PM

welll i have noticed the pc community is a lot more knowledgeable about technology in general

this stuff is pretty complex!

Brajany 25-Feb-19 06:36 PM

Soon you'll be able to know all about it though, don't worry. (edited)

Mike 25-Feb-19 07:03 PM

@Preston M for multiplayer games it doesnt really matter how fast you load

because you have to wait for other people lol

josh. 25-Feb-19 09:23 PM

Popular opinion : RTX Cards need DVI ports

💕 コード：002 💕 25-Feb-19 10:52 PM

Nah

Displayport is the future

Trashpanda 26-Feb-19 02:59 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo that Dell XPS is such a rip off

seriously, wtf

@💕 コード：002 💕 whats the difference with DVI and displayport

?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 03:08 AM

DisplayPort shows higher res than DVI, and DPort carries audio, too.

@Trashpanda

Trashpanda 26-Feb-19 03:08 AM

I see

I wonder if my screen has that and thats why it didnt work when I plugged my RTX 970 port to it (edited)

Do they look close to same?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 03:30 AM

DVI is very different looks-wise to DisplayPort.

Try googling for both and check out the difference.

Trashpanda 26-Feb-19 03:31 AM

Ah Isee

hmm could it be that my Display port is somehow fucked or the cable since it didnt work with my screen

Littlepip 26-Feb-19 03:56 AM

What is an rtx 970

gtx?

Trashpanda 26-Feb-19 04:06 AM

GTX*

Anguissette 26-Feb-19 07:38 AM

This might be a stupid question, but are the square trade protection plans worth it? I'm purchasing the computer from the recommended deals channel. I'm wary of not having a protection plan, as I've had parts fail within a year or two in the past.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 08:26 AM

@Anguissette can you link the item?

Anguissette 26-Feb-19 08:29 AM

I think this is what the plan gives you: https://promotions.newegg.com/warranty/17-3252/index.html The desktop I'm buying is this one: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883102544

When I go to buy it, it pops up with a 'do you want a 3 year protection plan for $149?'

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 08:42 AM

the plan doesn't appear to be tailored to PCs, but for a lot of items

https://www.squaretrade.com/terms-standard

I guess a pc would fall under category D

but I'm not sure how they interpret the first bullet point, "normal wear and tear"

if that covers a gpu dying, then that would be worth it I think

Anguissette 26-Feb-19 08:46 AM

Hmm, okay. Thank you!

Mike 26-Feb-19 10:10 AM

@Anguissette what parts died on you, specifically?

extended warranty is almost never worth it imo, the chance of the gpu/cpu dying within 3 years is extremely slim

A. 26-Feb-19 10:55 AM

@Mike what about other parts? Like the motherboard for example

what if some other part has an issue or fails

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 11:16 AM

gpu, hdds, and psu are more likely to die, although I think the chance is small

ram, mobo, and cpu tend to last forever, like plastic in the ocean

Mike 26-Feb-19 05:48 PM

@A. other parts are very unlikely to die as well, i dont think i've ever had a single component die on me

but even if something does die, the component (aside from maybe gpu and cpu) for sure isnt worth as much as the amount you paid for the extended warranty

for drives, you just regularly back them up so you dont lose important stuff

if you have a $3000 pc with 9900k + 2080 ti + 32gb ram + 2tb nvme ssd or something, $150 for extended warranty is probably worth it, for peace of mind if anything (assuming the warranty is effective) (edited)

but for a $1000 pc? lol

A. 26-Feb-19 05:53 PM

It was for $1700

I have an rtx 2080, 8700k, 16gb ram

Definitely not as expensive but.. ya know haha

And what about the chance of things just malfunctioning? Like the card being faulty, CPU overheating down the line, etc

Like you hear of cases where months in the cpu starts overheating

Mike 26-Feb-19 05:58 PM

only thing that might be worth (considerably) more than $150 in 3 years would be the rtx 2080, which probably isnt a concern as some gpu manufacturers have transferable warranty. and i repeat, the chance of a gpu dying is still extremely slim

cpu overheating is most likely just the cpu cooler screw being loose or the cooler (most likely an AIO) failing

a high end cooler replacement would be like $80

the CPU is most likely not the reason for overheating

silicon degradation does happen, but not that fast

maybe a couple degrees hotter after ~10 years to run at the same speed as it used to

A. 26-Feb-19 06:02 PM

Ah, I see. So if I had a problem with a component, how would I figure out what causing it? For example, how could I figure out a problem was because of the cooler? For a person like me who's not super knowledgeable

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:02 PM

what kind of cooler

A. 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

Hell, I didn't even know a cpu "cooler" was a thing, I thought it was just tubes of liquid

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

so you have an AIO?

A. 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

What aio?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

all in one / liquid cooler

A. 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

I know I do have liquid cooking

Cooling

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

then its an aio

AmariBot BOT 26-Feb-19 06:03 PM

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Mike 26-Feb-19 06:04 PM

most likely

A. 26-Feb-19 06:04 PM

And someone told me these tube things in my PC have the liquid in them

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:04 PM

yea

if your AIO starts leaking (liquid coming outside), makes grating noise, or the pump isnt working (you can download some monitor like hwinfo or check in your motherboard BIOS to see if it says "0 rpm or something), then it's failing (edited)

A. 26-Feb-19 06:06 PM

Would the liquid coming outside kill all my components that it touches?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:06 PM

the cpu being the reason for overheating is unheard of

it can

that's why liquid cooling isnt actually a great idea

A. 26-Feb-19 06:07 PM

Ah. What's the best type of cooling?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:07 PM

unless you really want it for the aesthetics or have a really hot cpu that air cooling cant handle (probably 1 or 2 in existence) (edited)

air cooling is the best most of the time

A. 26-Feb-19 06:07 PM

Why would it be an aesthetic thing?

Would the fans be a ton worse without liquid cooling?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:08 PM

no

120mm aios are typically equivalent to $30-50 coolers, for reference

A. 26-Feb-19 06:08 PM

I'm also unsure if the loudness of my fans are normal. I've never ever used a high end PC til this one

They're not like HORRIBLE but it's very much audible 24/7

And I meant more like would it be a lot louder?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:09 PM

link me the link to your pc

A. 26-Feb-19 06:09 PM

I only have one fan

Okay

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:09 PM

air coolers are actually quieter than aios typically

A. 26-Feb-19 06:09 PM

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-1tb-solid-state-drive-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:09 PM

because aios have noise coming from the fans and the pump

A. 26-Feb-19 06:10 PM

Oh wow, really? So then liquid cooling is the cheaper, less preferable cooling method?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:11 PM

no

liquid cooling is more expensive

A. 26-Feb-19 06:11 PM

Btw since all my games are taking hours to download, I downloaded second life to test things out lol. It's laggy, slow to load and terrible. What..

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:11 PM

more expensive for the same performance i mean

A. 26-Feb-19 06:11 PM

And louder I guess

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:12 PM

you mean the performance of your pc?

or internet lag

A. 26-Feb-19 06:12 PM

I'm so confused, I feel like having an rtx 2080 should make things perfectly smooth

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A. 26-Feb-19 06:12 PM

Hm I'm not sure if it's the internet

But graphics are bad and slow to render

It's gross given the card lol

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:13 PM

run userbenchmark and link the url here

A. 26-Feb-19 06:13 PM

Also bad frame rate and frame drops

URL to what?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:13 PM

userbenchmark.com

run it once and link results

A. 26-Feb-19 06:15 PM

It's a download

Is it still linkable despite that?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:16 PM

after you run the exe it will open a webpage

with your results

A. 26-Feb-19 06:17 PM

I love how it takes a minute to download 5mb lol

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/15044648

no idea what that means lol

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:20 PM

well the good news is that your scored high on all your benchmarks

you do have a lot of cpu background usage

meaning, some process or app is taking up cpu time (edited)

which can reduce performance in game

A. 26-Feb-19 06:21 PM

is there bad news? hahah

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:21 PM

no bad news according to those results

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:21 PM

yea, bad internet

A. 26-Feb-19 06:22 PM

the wifi speed is less than one mbps

with ethernet its still just 4 lol

is that why second life looks disgusting and runs bad

with visibly low fps and frame drops

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:24 PM

internet lag can sometimes look like computer lag

you should try out a single player game

to make sure things are running smoothly there

A. 26-Feb-19 06:25 PM

yeah

itll be hours until i can because of the slow download speed

just got the pc a couple days ago and i have to download everything

i wonder why it's so painfully slow

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:26 PM

you might need to upgrade your internet to allot more download bandwidth

do you live in a city or in rural area?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:26 PM

maybe test with ethernet

A. 26-Feb-19 06:27 PM

rural

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A. 26-Feb-19 06:27 PM

im using ethernet actually\

the wifi is much worse, .44mbps. with ethernet its 4

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:27 PM

when you sign up for internet, you pick an internet bandwidth, do you know yours?

A. 26-Feb-19 06:28 PM

nope, i live with my dad and he set up everything

and that was over a decade ago since moving here so neither of us know probably haha

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:29 PM

4mbps probably isnt that bad

A. 26-Feb-19 06:29 PM

btw how is the gaming benchmark over 100?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:29 PM

that's my typical download speed

sometimes 10

A. 26-Feb-19 06:29 PM

really? my friends all have at least 30

one has 90

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:30 PM

mine's $30/month

so its cheap but feels fine

do your games have a ping meter?

A. 26-Feb-19 06:30 PM

tbh, i have no idea (edited)

also how come i only have 11gb free to use out of 16gb ram?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:31 PM

for userbenchmark a score of 100% equates to an i7 7700 and a gtx 1070 -- your parts exceed that baseline so it's over 100

A. 26-Feb-19 06:31 PM

noticed that recently and that benchmark page reminded me

ah okay

the far right score is 95

what is that equal to?

oh wait

" Very high background CPU (31%). High background CPU reduces benchmark accuracy. Find active processes with Windows task manager (CTRL+SHIFT+ESC)."

I wonder why this is

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:33 PM

workstation basically is the score for workstation tasks

such as rendering / editing / whatever

A. 26-Feb-19 06:34 PM

Ah okay

I got it for workstation tasks specifically so I'm glad it performed well there haha

though not as well as for gaming

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:34 PM

its a 2080

A. 26-Feb-19 06:34 PM

rtx though

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:35 PM

basically the 2nd s trongest gpu if we count out the rtx titan (edited)

A. 26-Feb-19 06:35 PM

really? i thought a lot gtx stuff blows it out of the water

and that rtx is overpriced

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:35 PM

rtx titan > 2080 ti > 2080 > rest

like 2% better than a 1080 ti

oh wait

there's the titan V too

but your gpu is basically 1 of the strongest, ofc it will do well in games

A. 26-Feb-19 06:36 PM

how do i figure out what's causing my high cpu background usage?

I see

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:36 PM

task manager

A. 26-Feb-19 06:36 PM

Some of my friends told me I'm crazy for having an "overpriced" rtx 2080 lol

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:36 PM

task manager, click "show all processes" at bottom, sort by "cpu" column

A. 26-Feb-19 06:37 PM

So i assumed there was a lot of better stuff out there

And it says only 8% CPU

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:37 PM

i see, well the culprit task might have died down a bit

A. 26-Feb-19 06:38 PM

should i run it again to see if it still says that?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:38 PM

userbenchmark isnt exactly accurate, sometimes it counts the load that the benchmark puts on the cpu as "background cpu usage"

no

A. 26-Feb-19 06:38 PM

Ah

Are the benchmarks themselves accurate? (edited)

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:38 PM

not really

there are many better ones

A. 26-Feb-19 06:39 PM

What's the best free one?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:39 PM

but userbenchmark is the quickest and easiest to use

A. 26-Feb-19 06:39 PM

Because now i'm quite curious haha

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:39 PM

3dmark benchmarks and cinebench are pretty popular

A. 26-Feb-19 06:39 PM

So either of those are fine?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:39 PM

i use 3dmark firestrike and timespy

yea

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

3dmark isn't free though?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

cinebench is mainly for cpu i think

it is

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

oh really?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

the paid verison just lets you skip the demo (edited)

A. 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

is it possible second life is using intel graphics?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

and some other features

A. 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

ah. does 3dmark do everything?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:40 PM

3dmark has many different benchmarks

3dmark isnt the name of the benchmark itself

theres timespy, firestrike, etc

A. 26-Feb-19 06:41 PM

this is a stupid queation but who knows, can benchmarking put damaging stress on the components? again I'm an idiot with computers lmfao so spare me

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:41 PM

if it does damage your components then they're defective

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-Feb-19 06:41 PM

passmark is also pretty good, has a free trial version https://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm

A. 26-Feb-19 06:42 PM

question* god this keyboard is awkward

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:42 PM

something like prime95 is said to slightly wear down the cpu if you use it too much tho

A. 26-Feb-19 06:42 PM

So given my components are all fine - can it do anything unwanted?

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:42 PM

it puts an unrealistic amount of load on the cpu

not really

just stick with the popular ones

like the 3dmark ones / cinebench / passmark / etc

A. 26-Feb-19 06:42 PM

so i guess 3dmark it is then

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:43 PM

what keyboard r u using btw

A. 26-Feb-19 06:43 PM

I wonder if the benchmarks will come back worse on this one lol

it came with my computer, it just says iBuyPower on it lol

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:43 PM

is it mechanical

A. 26-Feb-19 06:44 PM

It's hard to get used to, I can't not make typos every three words\

Yeah

And I keep missing enter lmao

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:44 PM

hmm doesnt look mechanical

A. 26-Feb-19 06:44 PM

3dmark is $30

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:44 PM

can you take a keycap out

theres a free version

https://benchmarks.ul.com/3dmark

3DMark - The Gamer's Benchmark

Benchmark your PC, tablet and smartphone with 3DMark, The Gamer's Benchmark. Free download, start benchmarking today.

A. 26-Feb-19 06:45 PM

really? I thought any keyboard that makes the clicky noises is mechanicakl haha

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:45 PM

3DMark Basic Edition STEAM Free

nah

AmariBot BOT 26-Feb-19 06:45 PM

Mike

CONGRATS You are now level 3!!!

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:45 PM

if you can take a keycap out and there's a switch then its mechanical

A. 26-Feb-19 06:46 PM

I can't find the free version, steam also says $30

I don't think I can take a keycap out

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:46 PM

on the page i linked

ctrl f -> type basic edition

A. 26-Feb-19 06:46 PM

yeah

It has me go to steam

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:47 PM

i'd recommend getting a nicer (mechanical) keyboard

A. 26-Feb-19 06:47 PM

Then it's $30 on steam

And yeah i don't like this one

I can adjust to most keyboards in minutes, but not this one

And I don't like the huge key travel

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:48 PM

weird, can u download the benchmarks individually?

https://store.steampowered.com/dlc/223850/3DMark/

Steam DLC Page: 3DMark

scroll down

A. 26-Feb-19 06:48 PM

yes

but not all at once

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:48 PM

that's really strange

i remember being able to download the free version all at once

A. 26-Feb-19 06:49 PM

ohh i found it

It's "download demo"

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:49 PM

yea that's probably it

A. 26-Feb-19 06:50 PM

it refuses to download

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:50 PM

it's kind of silly imo to spend on such a high end pc and having a shit keyboard / other peripherals ruin the experience

A. 26-Feb-19 06:50 PM

there's a short pop up and then nothing, tried several tiomes

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:50 PM

hmm i'll check

A. 26-Feb-19 06:51 PM

haha this is my first desktop honestly. always used laptops. I don have another one for now

another kb i mean

AmariBot BOT 26-Feb-19 06:51 PM

Nameless

CONGRATS You are now level 3!!!

A. 26-Feb-19 06:52 PM

it's not really ruining the experience most of time time, i use it mainly for music software

but lots of typing is annoying

With the deep keys and just feeling really awkward

As you can probably tell with my numerous typos lol

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:53 PM

where were u able to get to with the download?

A. 26-Feb-19 06:56 PM

No

It won't download for some reason

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:56 PM

yea, same things happening to me

nothing happens when i click "Yes steam is installed"

A. 26-Feb-19 06:56 PM

i can get to steam\

then i click download

brief popup, then nothing

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:57 PM

you could try downloading from a 3rd party website like https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5775-3dmark.html

3DMark Basic Edition

Download 3DMark Basic Edition. Whether you're gaming on a smartphone, tablet, notebook, laptop, desktop, or a high performance gaming PC, 3DMark includes a benchmark designed specifically for your device.

A. 26-Feb-19 06:58 PM

i did it over an over so i could read it lol, it syas "preparing to launch" something

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:58 PM

dont need to concern yourself too much over this tho

A. 26-Feb-19 06:58 PM

then it goes away

downloaded it from the site, says it'll take 11 hours to download

sigh

Mike 26-Feb-19 06:59 PM

yikes

thats rly bad internet

A. 26-Feb-19 07:00 PM

yeah, ridiculous really

It's really inconvenient to not be able do a simple install within half a day lol (edited)

is there a lighter software to download that's still accurate?

Even my data is faster than this despite being in the middle of nowhere

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:03 PM

uningine is pretty popular as well though i've never used it

for gpu

for cpu, cinebench i think

A. 26-Feb-19 07:04 PM

theres aida65

but it scares me lol

because it does unrealistic loads

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:05 PM

idk have aida64 does benchmarks for gpu/cpu

iirc only stresstests, which are different

A. 26-Feb-19 07:05 PM

it does

oh

yeah no you're right

fuck that, I'm too paranoid to stress test my brand new pc haha

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:06 PM

lul

don't be

A. 26-Feb-19 07:06 PM

cinebench says it puts the gpu to the limits though too

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:06 PM

none of these are nearly as bad as prime95

your gpu should handle them fine

A. 26-Feb-19 07:07 PM

"UNIGINE benchmarks can be effectively used to determine the stability of a GPU under extremely stressful conditions, as well as check the cooling system's potential under maximum heat output. Put your PC under maximum load and measure how powerful it truly is!"

shudder

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:07 PM

if you have warranty, now's the best time to check that your GPU and other pieces are able to run properly

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:07 PM

^

A. 26-Feb-19 07:07 PM

good point

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:07 PM

just dont run them for like 12 hours

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:07 PM

if for some reason your GPU starts failing now, you get a chance to ask for warranty

still a valid thing @Mike

I've gamed for 12-14 hours

GPUs are supposed to last for a long time

That's normal use

A. 26-Feb-19 07:08 PM

So how do i actually run this? it has these simulation options or something

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:08 PM

Being stressed used for 12 hours isn't enough of a valid reason to deny warranty.

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:08 PM

the amount of load that gaming puts on the cpu/gpu is nowhere even near as much as what stresstests do

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:08 PM

Besides, manufactures won't know.

A. 26-Feb-19 07:08 PM

like "tropics", |heaven", etc

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:08 PM

They'll just either ship a new CPU or a new PC.

Agreed, though, @Mike

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:09 PM

my cpu uses 50-60w during gaming (edited)

prime95, maybe 120

110-120

A. 26-Feb-19 07:09 PM

do I just click one of those things?

for unigine

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:10 PM

stresstesting for like 2-3 hours or so is enough to see if a part is defective

testing it for like 12 will only start to wear the components down (not much but its still pointless)

A. 26-Feb-19 07:11 PM

uh

do i just download this or something or.. lol

https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition?lang=en

UNIGINE Benchmarks

Performance benchmarks by Unigine

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:11 PM

ive never used it so i cant help you with that

A. 26-Feb-19 07:12 PM

is stresstesting that long the only way to find out if a part is defective?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:13 PM

I mean, not for 12 hours. Just run it a couple of times.

A. 26-Feb-19 07:14 PM

2-3 hours I mean

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:14 PM

Yo, honestly, stress testing is like taking a car and redlining it a couple of times. If something is really off or fucked, then you'll do yourself a favor of knowing that the problem is there.

And thus, you call warranty.

A. 26-Feb-19 07:14 PM

Is that long necessary?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:14 PM

No.

Just do it a couple of times.

Rev the engine a couple of times

Revving an engine for 12 hours is unnecessary.

A. 26-Feb-19 07:15 PM

which one should I use?

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:15 PM

Heed Reddit for that question.

A. 26-Feb-19 07:15 PM

Also are there any other ways to see if something is defective? I'm just afraid of it causing damage

because my luck is so terrible that it's statistically extremely improbable lol

even took me months to get to a purchase where the computer has seemingly no problems. before it was laptops though

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:17 PM

a stresstest shouldnt cause damage

A. 26-Feb-19 07:17 PM

what stress test program would you reccomend?

recommend *

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:18 PM

i only use 3dmark

A. 26-Feb-19 07:18 PM

ah. i'm not going to bother with it, takes way too long to download with the terrible internet haha

so long i'd have to walk away from my pc for hours, which I don't want to do just leaving it running all day

I ran cinebench and it says the score is 1287

No ideas what that number means though lol

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:25 PM

that's normal

A. 26-Feb-19 07:26 PM

googled it, its lower than what it should be for this cpu by 200 or so

do you think the aidia65 stress test is fine? also, how would I know if something is problematic?

and should i test both cpu and gpu at the same time

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:28 PM

where are u getting a score of 1500?

its most likely an overclocked 8700k

which your cooler probably cant handle

A. 26-Feb-19 07:29 PM

online i read a score of 1400 something

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:29 PM

aida64's stress test should be fine

A. 26-Feb-19 07:29 PM

and really? that sucks given it can be overclocked lol

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:29 PM

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-8700k-benchmarks.html

Intel Core i7-8700K Cinebench CB 15 Benchmarks

Tech journalist Karl Morin ran a Cinebench with Intel Core i7-8700K on a on an HP Omen PC. Intels six core and twelve threads processor scorded 1230 points in the multicore test. And that number is g...

non overclocked

120mm aios cant overclock an 8700k well

A. 26-Feb-19 07:30 PM

ah. so is it even better than a non k then?

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:30 PM

maybe the good ones can handle a decent overclock to 4.8-4.9ghz

like the h60 2018

yes, its clock speed is still higher than non k 8700

A. 26-Feb-19 07:30 PM

oh okay

I'm going to run aida64. How long should it run for and how do I know if something is wrong?

Also should I close everything else out

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:31 PM

ive only used the ram test, which causes the pc to crash / show an error message if theres something wrong

if there's something wrong it should be obvious

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:32 PM

yup

A. 26-Feb-19 07:32 PM

will it make the fan go crazy? lol

and could it damage the cooler in some way since it'll have to work hard

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:33 PM

Fans will spin up to compensate for heating

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:34 PM

if it does, jsut r eplace it with a $30 cooler. will probably work as well as the one that ibuypower gave u (which is probably shit

)\

actually now that you've brought it up

A. 26-Feb-19 07:34 PM

I have no money and dont know how to replace anything lol, my dad actually bought the whole pc for me lol

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:34 PM

Do you have warranty?

A. 26-Feb-19 07:34 PM

only a year

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:34 PM

STRESS TEST NOW

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:34 PM

can your aio even handle an 8700k at 100% load

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:35 PM

MAKE SURE IF YOUR PC GETS FUCKED

IT GETS FUCKED NOW

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:35 PM

without hitting 90 deg +

download hwinfo first lol

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:35 PM

cuz otherwise after day #366 if your PC dies

you have no warranty

you'll be fucked over

A. 26-Feb-19 07:35 PM

yeah i downloaded hwinfo

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 07:35 PM

you always have to stress test your PC to make sure everything is running properly

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:35 PM

careful about it hitting 90C+

even 80C+ isnt recommended for every day use

A. 26-Feb-19 07:36 PM

what if it cant handle it? i hope nothing screws up.

Maybe it's a bad idea hahah

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:36 PM

just try it

if it's starting to reach the 90's then stop it

A. 26-Feb-19 07:37 PM

alright

if it doesn't, how long to run for? i think i asked but i can't remember if you said anything about that

also, do i stress the cpu and gpu at the same time?

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:38 PM

idk how aida64's cpu stresstest is but maybe 2-3 hours

A. 26-Feb-19 07:39 PM

i thought that long wasnt necessary

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:39 PM

i said 12 hours wasnt necessary

but 2-3 is typically enough to root out any issues

A. 26-Feb-19 07:39 PM

well fuck lol

I was thinking more like 10 minutes

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:40 PM

that's not gonna do much

A. 26-Feb-19 07:40 PM

i barely have the time to sit around waiting for that lol

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:40 PM

you can watch a movie or something

A. 26-Feb-19 07:41 PM

again do i stress both cpu and gpu at the same time

Mike 26-Feb-19 07:41 PM

you can if u want

whats your power supply

A. 26-Feb-19 07:42 PM

i wish there was another way to check if things are stable

and i'm not sure

part of me wants to delete aida64 and all that shit and not worry about it lol (edited)

for the hell of it ive started it briefly, the fans dont even speed up

that's weird

A. 26-Feb-19 08:17 PM

I'm running a game in steam but its a minimized window some reason lol

How do I make it full screen?

Mike 26-Feb-19 08:36 PM

@A. shift + enter?

if not, should have an option in Settings

💕 コード：002 💕 26-Feb-19 10:47 PM

@Mike congratz on promotion

1

Trashpanda 27-Feb-19 09:13 AM

Got my new PC ^^ (edited)

Littlepip 27-Feb-19 09:47 AM

that was fast

Big Duck 27-Feb-19 10:15 AM

@A. sometimes Windows opens games and shit on a non-existent monitor, Windows key + shift + arrow key should pop it onto your actual monitor

A. 27-Feb-19 12:51 PM

How come there's no audio in steam? Sigh. I just wanna sit back and play a game finally but there's another problem

Lol

No audio in a steam game I meant

Reggi 27-Feb-19 01:52 PM

Anyone ever brought a refurbished pc from newegg?

i dont wanna get it and have problems down the line

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:12 PM

Fixed, @A.?

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:32 PM

A. 27-Feb-19 04:33 PM

@💕 コード：002 💕 yeah. Something else happened though, a cutscene in Witcher 3 dropped fps really low and was laggy as hell

I think it throttled. I reach the temp limit which is 83

Sigh

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:33 PM

What's your problem again?

A. 27-Feb-19 04:33 PM

I thought things would run flawlessly with an rtx 2080

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:33 PM

No audio and now stutter mid game?

A. 27-Feb-19 04:33 PM

Audio is fixed

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:33 PM

Okay, so now you have stutters?

A. 27-Feb-19 04:34 PM

My computer though my controller was a headset

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:34 PM

Check temperature. What's your PC, what are you cooling with? (edited)

A. 27-Feb-19 04:34 PM

Yeah during a cut scene

Temp reached the limit

Which is 83. So it probably throttled

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:34 PM

You can have a beast engine but if your cooling internals suck there's no point.

A. 27-Feb-19 04:34 PM

I'm not sure exactly. I just know it's liquid cooking

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Feb-19 04:34 PM

Invest in better fans. What case? Is it a prebuilt case?

Your CPU is liquid cooling, I doubt the GPU is liquid cooled too.

A. 27-Feb-19 04:36 PM

Lol. Brain fart there

Yes, prebuilt case

Btw the fan speed never changes

It's the same no matter what except the first few seconds when booting up

Mike 27-Feb-19 06:16 PM

83 C isnt the throttling point

its like 95 or something for the cpu

similarly for the gpu

actually, 88

for gpu

and 100 for cpu

Preston M 28-Feb-19 02:32 AM

best place for monitors?

also best monitor to go with: https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883102544

FPS games (mainly apex/fortnite right now)

Preston M 28-Feb-19 02:50 AM

right now this is my top prospect

https://express.google.com/u/0/product/Alienware-AW2518HF-25-LED-Monitor-FullHD/3121248262585432734_12603630588289993331_125181302?ved=0CAIQ0FUoAGoXChMI0camyobU4AIVFRRiCh0L0wr7EC0

Google Express

Get fast delivery of everyday essentials from stores like Costco, Walgreens, and Petsmart.

but i want to explore other options as well!

Preston M 28-Feb-19 02:57 AM

i really can't figure out the difference between gsync, no gsync, freesync

but i know i want an ips over tn

Preston M 28-Feb-19 03:22 AM

ok well i'm learning alot.. trying to figure out if there is such a thing as a reasonably priced 1440p IPS monitor with ~144hz and a low (1-4)ms

AmariBot BOT 28-Feb-19 03:22 AM

Preston M

CONGRATS You are now level 2!!!

Littlepip 28-Feb-19 03:27 AM

gsync synchronizese refresh rate to the gpu so if youre at 100fps in a game refresh rate will be 100hz so there wont be any tearing

freesync does the same thing, and nvidia cards are compatible with some freesync monitors now

Preston M 28-Feb-19 03:30 AM

gotcha, so shouldn't really worry about gsync

geez monitors can be as expensive as the computer

Fohristiwhirl 28-Feb-19 03:36 AM

Sorry to interupt. When installing operating systems onto a PC with SSD and HDD should it go on the SSD for speed? Also If I wanna dual boot a system with Linux too can you partition an SSD as you would a HDD. Basically what is the most important software to put on your SSD? Is it worth moving the files that your actively using from HDD to SSD for quicker access times Or just that just reduce the drives lifetime?

Littlepip 28-Feb-19 03:41 AM

os should be installed on the ssd for fast boot times

not sure about the dual boot part, and it depends on the files being used

i wouldnt transfer pictures/videos to an ssd

Fohristiwhirl 28-Feb-19 04:09 AM

Ok thanks

Reggi 28-Feb-19 12:29 PM

Finally ordered!!!

Wish me luck

1

Ignore the drill

💕 コード：002 💕 28-Feb-19 07:05 PM

Gonna drill that case a hole in case it doesn't run properly? lol

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Feb-19 07:10 PM

gotta make sure that cpu is screwed into the mobo TIGHT

💕 コード：002 💕 28-Feb-19 07:19 PM

Thoughts? https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/avrm2f/prebuilt_skytech_archangel_vr_ready_gaming_pc/

r/buildapcsales - [Prebuilt] SkyTech Archangel VR Ready Gaming PC ...

151 votes and 98 comments so far on Reddit

@ToTimesTwoIsToo, @Mike, @Mark

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Feb-19 07:20 PM

@💕 コード：002 💕 it's a good deal

great in fact

💕 コード：002 💕 28-Feb-19 07:21 PM

#recommended-deals worthy?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Feb-19 07:21 PM

yeah I think it's on there, but we should add it again because it's cheaper than when I put it up weeks ago

yeah when I added it was 750 and was a pretty good deal then

so at 600 it's very good

there put it up

💕 コード：002 💕 28-Feb-19 07:30 PM

awesome

Mark 28-Feb-19 07:51 PM

I've noticed that Skytech has been able to put out some seriously value stuff. I hadn't even heard of them before Black Friday 2018 tbh

Littlepip 28-Feb-19 10:20 PM

Recalls my faulty skytech pc hmmm

Mark 01-Mar-19 06:00 AM

Well, to be fair they are the cheapest around sooo

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 06:02 AM

yup

A. 01-Mar-19 06:03 AM

@Mike yeah, my CPU didn't throttle. Gpu does. On my computer it has the limit set to 83, so I think that when it throttled

Mark 01-Mar-19 06:25 AM

There's a person on Reddit from the UK, I don't know much about UK pricing but I was going to recommend this PC. Thoughts? https://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberpowerPC-Warrior-i5-1060-Gaming-PC/dp/B075H51PTV/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1551449946&sr=8-17&keywords=rtx%2B2080%2Bdesktop&th=1 (edited)

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 06:31 AM

overpriced, but not sure if theres anything better

Mycall 01-Mar-19 10:58 AM

My pc just came Does anyone know how to get the cooler master software

It’s not on their website

Brajany 01-Mar-19 11:02 AM

http://www.coolermaster.com/downloads/

Cooler Master: Downloads

coolermaster

???

@Mycall

Mycall 01-Mar-19 11:37 AM

Nah that's for the mouse and keyboards

i found it eventually but took ages

terrible website haha, thanks anyways!

STL Kid 01-Mar-19 01:05 PM

Noob here, I'm looking for a desktop at 600 or less capable of playing MTG Arena which has the following requirements. A. Minimum Requirements: Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ or Equivalent Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 8800 or Equivalent RAM: 2 GB Operating System: Windows 7 Recommend Requirements: Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q9300 @ 2.50GHz Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 560 RAM: 4 GB Operating System: Windows 10

Any recommendations?

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 01:10 PM

Holy crap 2gb of ram

STL Kid 01-Mar-19 01:13 PM

Do you have a recommendation? I don't need something that can run all of the most draining games on the market--but would like something reliable that could handle that game comfortably

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Mar-19 01:17 PM

@STL Kid https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1VK-005B-000E1

it's a good deal at $600

probably won't last long at this price

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 01:19 PM

I'd recommend that as well, if reviews are good

Wish ppl would post their thing in showcase n say if their pc was working good

STL Kid 01-Mar-19 01:21 PM

Thank you for the recommendation

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Mar-19 01:23 PM

@Littlepip agreed, would be nice to get some followups on these machines

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 01:25 PM

Yeah, I'd hate to recommend someone a pc and have it mess up on them

STL Kid 01-Mar-19 01:26 PM

If I order it, I'll definitely post back here after I get it set up

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 01:28 PM

Nice naice

Cause that particular one and a similar one are recommended a lot

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Mar-19 01:34 PM

yeah, although a lot of reviews on amazon and NE for skytech is generally favorable. The only company I'm wary of is ABS, which tend to get lower scores

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 01:35 PM

Abs and clx yeah they pretty random sellers

Disrupt 01-Mar-19 01:44 PM

Yo lads whats the minimum parts I should be looking in for in a pc for around £1000

Cause it seems to vary

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Mar-19 01:50 PM

@Disrupt for gaming?

would be great to find an rtx 2070, but you might be just out of range

in which case gtx 1070 ti, gtx 1080, or rtx 2060

Disrupt 01-Mar-19 01:51 PM

Aye it's weird

I'm seeing some sites that seem to be more brand power that have 1060s around that

It i still see some 2070s

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Mar-19 01:54 PM

I wouldn't settle for a 1060 at 1000 pounds

https://www.ebuyer.com/859689-cyberpower-gaming-paladin-i5-8400-gtx-1070-ebu081811

Cyberpower Gaming Paladin i5-8400 GTX 1070

Buy our Cyberpower Gaming Paladin i5-8400 GTX 1070 from our wide range of Gaming PCs. The Cyberpower Gaming Paladin features a 1TB HDD and has 16GB of RAM

https://www.ebuyer.com/878219-cyberpower-1660ti-gaming-pc-ebu011912

Cyberpower 1660ti Gaming PC - Gaming at Ebuyer

Buy our Cyberpower 1660ti Gaming PC from our wide range of Gaming PCs. The Cyberpower 1660ti Gaming PC featrues a 1TB HDD, a 120GB SSD and brand new 1660Ti graphics

both decent options

yeah rtx 2070 might be out of the question until you hit 1200 range

but I would go for the rtx 2060 > gtx 1080 > gtx 1070 ti > gtx 1070 >= gtx 1660 ti in that order (edited)

be sure to pair with an i5 8400, i5 9400, or ryzen 5 1400, r5 2600, r5 1600 at least

Disrupt 01-Mar-19 02:00 PM

https://www.ebuyer.com/873383-cyberpower-i5-8400-rtx-2070-gaming-pc-ebu011909 something along the lines of this yeah?

Cyberpower i5 8400 RTX 2070 Gaming PC - Gaming at ebuyer

Buy our Cyberpower i5 8400 RTX 2070 Gaming PC from our wide range of Gaming PCs. The Cyberpower i5 8400 RTX 2070 Gaming PC features a 1TB HDD and has 16GB of RAM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 01-Mar-19 02:03 PM

yeah something like that would work well

one strategy is to get the best gpu you can get in your budget, and then get a good enough cpu to pair with it. The other strategy is to start with a stronger CPU, even if that means a weaker gpu

the idea being that sometimes it's easier to upgrade a gpu 5 years from now than a cpu

CPU sockets and chipsets become discontinued. GPU standards, however, are slow to chance so GPUs created in 2024 will be compatible with your system now

if you are willing to buy second hand CPUs for future upgrades, then that is an option too

personally I'd be content with an i5 8400 + rtx 2070. It will be a long time before 6 core CPUs are no longer cutting it for gaming, at which point you can just throw a second-hand i7 8700 in there and breath life into the machine

josh. 01-Mar-19 02:35 PM

2000 dollars rx 580 LMAO

Mycall 01-Mar-19 02:40 PM

ok so everything is amazing so far except for the fans

they're noisy which is fine but.. They rattle...

at random times

i can hear it through my headpphones

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 02:41 PM

Which pc mycall

Mycall 01-Mar-19 02:45 PM

https://www.cclonline.com/pc/specialist-gaming-pcs/pbm/ccl-warlock-gs-gaming-pc/

CCL Warlock GS Gaming PC | CCL Computers

CCL Warlock GS Gaming PC. 3.4GHz AMD Ryzen 5-2600 with 6GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Graphics - 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD, WiFi

this but with slightly different specs

2060]

Littlepip 01-Mar-19 02:46 PM

Interesting

Maybe the fans are lose

Never heard of that issue before though so dunno

Mike 01-Mar-19 07:04 PM

rattling fans = bad bearing and/or loose fans (edited)

try screwing them in with a screwdriver (edited)

josh. 01-Mar-19 07:28 PM

any admins awake?

is this a good price you guys think? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/421366718604894/

Amd Rzyen 5 2600 6 Core Gaming / Editing PC 32GB 256SSD 4TB Vega 5...

Amd Rzyen 5 2600 6 Core Gaming / Editing PC 32GB 256SSD 4TB Vega 56 8GB Graphics RGB CASE! $999. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6 Core 32GB Gaming / Editing PC VEGA 56 8GB RGB Fans! $999 This pc will easily handle video editing, music production or 1080p or 1440p gaming! price is for the...

Brajany 01-Mar-19 08:55 PM

Not an admin, but, yes, that is a absolute steal, if you do buy it, make sure to check to specs though, some people try to RIP you off, and replace the parts with worse internals, they'll downgrade everything, just, be mindful.

@josh.

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Mar-19 11:45 PM

mfw mods know more about suggesting PCs than the admin

Mycall 02-Mar-19 02:29 AM

It’s idle and makes these noises... is this normal?

Attachment: video.mov (4.01 MB)

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 02:59 AM

record the fans

Mycall 02-Mar-19 03:23 AM

Attachment: video.mov (7.58 MB)

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 03:31 AM

That sounds pretty normal to me

It might be just that we can't hear properly the sound

Just sounds like normal fans spinning, unless I'm missing something? @Mycall, @Littlepip

Oh, I read a bit above. You believe the fans to be rattling?

Mycall 02-Mar-19 03:36 AM

Yeah one of them is making a weird noise

It’s inconsistent

Like sometimes it’s there and sometimes it stops for a bit, then it continues

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 03:42 AM

Can you shoot me a link of your PC's listing online?

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 03:53 AM

thats a weird sound, maybe one of the fans is not lubricated well

i dont think its nothing super threatening to pc though

you can open up the glass panel and maybe put your ear closer to see which one its coming from

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 03:55 AM

yeah but don't put your ear inside the fan

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:00 AM

sounds like a ufo

but sounds normal there though

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:06 AM

Having issues getting it on sound

Video*

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 04:06 AM

Yeah

Agreed with pip

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:07 AM

It’s basically a rattle

Got it

Attachment: video.mov (5.32 MB)

This is my issue

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

Sounds normal?

Can you check @Littlepip

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

There’s a rattling

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

theres a slight rattle, not sure what itd be

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

It comes and goes even on max

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

I mean there could be

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

It’s loud on my end

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Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

Hard to hear on the recording

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

But it still sounds like normal

imo

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:09 AM

if i had to guess, one of the fans isnt screwed on tight enough

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:10 AM

Should I try? How right should they be?

I haven’t really done much inside of computers

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:11 AM

they dont have to be dead tight, youd want to turn everything off unplug everything and just fiddle with all the fans to see if any of them move easily

if a fan is lose youll feel it

you shouldnt have to take anything out

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:12 AM

Attachment: video.mov (2.94 MB)

Comes and goes comes and goes I kinda ended the video early but it stopped for around 8 seconds then continued

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:13 AM

yeh i hear it, not normal

Mycall 02-Mar-19 04:13 AM

The sound of the fans are fine, it’s just that

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 04:15 AM

ooooooooooo shit

now I can hear it

do you have warranty?

I'd contact warranty via live-chat, send the videos and at least keep evidence that you've reported it

Even if it's not enough yet to warrant a return/change/etc

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:16 AM

i reccomended he ask nzxt discord as well, maybe theyll know what that sound is

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 04:17 AM

got a link?

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 04:18 AM

o

I dmed you

Some users helped me build my pc

Very nice place

Mycall 02-Mar-19 06:56 AM

Yeah I get a 3 year warranty and I’m going to call them on Monday but damn

Most likely they’ll ask for it to be sent back

So they can fix it

Which will take weeks

Just wanted to make sure there wasn’t something I could do myself to prevent that from happening

Thanks guys

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 07:01 AM

it doesnt look like u asked in nzxt discord support channel, was there a problem posting

Mycall 02-Mar-19 07:54 AM

i asked no one answered

Oh

I did it in hardware

sec

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 08:39 AM

Yeh i think they have the same idea

could be a cable hitting fan too

Mike 02-Mar-19 10:59 AM

@Mycall did you try tightening the screws on the fans? (edited)

josh. 02-Mar-19 12:05 PM

is this a good deal? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/492329931298959/

Core i7 7700 4.2Ghz Kaby Lake 32GB Ram 512GB SSD 4TB Nvidia 1070ti...

Core i7 7700 4.2Ghz Kaby Lake 32GB Ram 512GB SSD 4TB Nvidia 1070ti 8GB Gaming PC. $1,099. Core i7 7700 4.2Ghz Kaby Lake 32GB Ram 512GB SSD 4TB Nvidia 1070ti Gaming PC $1099 This pc can easily handle vr, video editing, or gaming at 1080p/1440p or even 4k! Price is for the to...

i think it may be better than the previous

Brajany 02-Mar-19 12:06 PM

That is absolutely a good deal.

josh. 02-Mar-19 12:07 PM

look at their facebook page they have a lot of good deals i think

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 12:24 PM

fair price

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 12:41 PM

4 cores kinda small though in 2019 though

josh. 02-Mar-19 12:44 PM

yeah

im also considering this https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/421366718604894/

Amd Rzyen 5 2600 6 Core Gaming / Editing PC 32GB 256SSD 4TB Vega 5...

Amd Rzyen 5 2600 6 Core Gaming / Editing PC 32GB 256SSD 4TB Vega 56 8GB Graphics RGB CASE! $999. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6 Core 32GB Gaming / Editing PC VEGA 56 8GB RGB Fans! $999 This pc will easily handle video editing, music production or 1080p or 1440p gaming! price is for the...

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 12:48 PM

that seems BETTER

josh. 02-Mar-19 12:52 PM

is the vega 56 future proof

Brajany 02-Mar-19 12:53 PM

It would probably be great for AAA titles for a year more, and for esports, it won't be irrelevant anytime soon.

josh. 02-Mar-19 12:55 PM

what about the processor same idea?

Brajany 02-Mar-19 12:57 PM

No, that processor will be good for a while, depends what you're doing, only gaming? At least 3 years, possibly up to 5 or 6, depending on the games you're playing.

josh. 02-Mar-19 12:59 PM

yeah gaming

and occasional streaming

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 01:00 PM

WHOoops sorry caps lol

josh. 02-Mar-19 01:00 PM

lol

Littlepip 02-Mar-19 01:01 PM

FUTURE prooof uhhh

for 60hz i guess itll be good for a while

Trashpanda 02-Mar-19 03:20 PM

@Mike are we allowed to share websites of our own making in this Discord / channel?

Mike 02-Mar-19 03:23 PM

check with the admin

Trashpanda 02-Mar-19 03:23 PM

Ah I completelmy missed him/her @💕 コード：002 💕

💕 コード：002 💕 02-Mar-19 07:45 PM

go for it

Trashpanda 03-Mar-19 04:15 AM

https://besttech.reviews <= my review site

BestTech.Reviews

BestTech.Reviews | Discover the best tech reviews and deals

A complete listing of the best tech reviews of desktops, laptops, tablets, phones, printers, monitors, hard drives, cameras, and consumer electronics.

@💕 コード：002 💕

https://hirmuli.itch.io/cubeninja <= game I made in a week

CubeNinja by Hirmuli

Play young Ninja cube that needs to collect 9999 points to get his fathers approval and to become a real ninja.

Feel free to give me some feedback

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Mar-19 08:07 AM

@Trashpanda site looks slick, how does the price drop work? do you detect that automatically or enter it manually? (edited)

Trashpanda 03-Mar-19 08:09 AM

Automatically

TopRamanShaman 03-Mar-19 09:41 AM

Hi I have a friend who wanted to join the community who had questions regarding buying/building a pc how can I get them in here?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Mar-19 10:00 AM

https://discordapp.com/invite/aPqaTnG

send him that url

Mark 03-Mar-19 12:31 PM

Hey that's us!

3

El Make It Raino 04-Mar-19 06:33 AM

Hello

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 09:00 AM

@El Make It Raino hey what's up

Bazoop 04-Mar-19 11:23 AM

I can't believe I missed the deal on this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227855&Description=rtx%202080%20desktop&cm_re=rtx_2080_desktop-_-83-227-855-_-Product I swear it was 1600 when I was on lunch today

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 11:36 AM

@Bazoop you're right :/ I've been recommending that at 1600 all week, hope it goes back down

Bazoop 04-Mar-19 11:37 AM

I met my partner for lunch today to talk about buying it and now that I'm actually ready to buy it the sale ended..

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 11:38 AM

I'd say keep an eye on it, price might go back down. I've seen prices spike for just a day or so then return. Or, there might be another deal around the corner

I like this one a lot, has the newer 9700K, but not as good as a deal as that 1600 8700K build https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-2tb-hard-drive-240gb-solid-state-drive-black/6318349.p?skuId=6318349

Bazoop 04-Mar-19 11:40 AM

I'm trying to get a higher end PC+Monitor combo for Under or around 2000, that'd push me a bit over unless I could swing a free monitor from my employer

I figured I'd join this discord and sit tight till another deal pops up

spark153 04-Mar-19 06:03 PM

Hi!

https://shop.pcmag.com/products/hp-pavilion-590-p0057c-desktop-intel-core-i5-8400-16gb-ram-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-win10-home-refurbished?utm_source=techdeals

HP Pavilion 590-p0057c Desktop Intel Core i5-8400 16GB RAM 1TB HDD...

Manufacturer "Grade A" Refurbished with 90 Day HP Warranty This desktop PC exceeds expectations with a new generation of performance, the freedom to store what you need, and a sleek design that cuts down on size. Make a statement with a new slim design featuring a sleek pro...

is this at $477.37 worth it? I never bought a desktop before and I don't have any knowledge on hp desktop

I'm gonna use it to do some programming (mainly android studio). Can anyone give me how this desktop is?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 06:08 PM

it's refurb so your mileage may vary, but other than that it's a fair price (edited)

Mark 04-Mar-19 06:09 PM

Hi @spark153, first off, that link seems to show $520 rather than the $477, are you sure that's the right link? Second, you can get an extremely comparable (actually better GPU-wise) new PC for about $100 more. Take a look: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1VK-005B-000E1

spark153 04-Mar-19 06:11 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo thank you! do you think I should go for a new one instead of a refurb for about ~$150 more?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 06:13 PM

not sure it's worth an extra 150. You might consider this one, and just add an extra stick of 8gb RAM https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883101687&Description=acer%208400&cm_re=acer_8400-_-83-101-687-_-Product

throw in a 40 dollar ssd and you're set

spark153 04-Mar-19 06:14 PM

@Mark Hi, it's after 15% off! Also, the computer looks nice. but I'm not sure if it's worth to spend ~$200?

@ToTimesTwoIsToo thanks for the input! can Intel UHD 630 run LoL/FIFA19 on max settings at around 60fps?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 06:17 PM

LoL, probably. Fifa19? no

Mark 04-Mar-19 06:17 PM

It's up to you. The 1060 for the extra ~$150 will considerably improve your experience in League and FIFA. Although League practically runs on anything, it can still tank a little during big team fights or particle heavy champions. Although I haven't used the i5 8400 specifically for League, I've used similar integrated graphics before and can say that slowdowns will happen relatively often, especially during big jungle fights. The refurbished has the 550 which is more or less enough for those purpose.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 04-Mar-19 06:18 PM

I second Mark's suggestion

if you 're going to play anything more advanced than LoL , you need more than the intel hd 630 graphics

spark153 04-Mar-19 06:23 PM

I'm sorry, but which one has 1060?

Mark 04-Mar-19 06:23 PM

Nevermind, just found that the i7 7700hq does have Intel 630 graphics. So yeah, what I described is pretty much gonna be the same.

The 1060 is in the one I sent.

spark153 04-Mar-19 06:33 PM

thanks guys! I'll have to take time and think about it.

Mycall 05-Mar-19 12:07 AM

So the company will collect my computer, repair it, then return it. Question is how are they going to transport it after collecting it? When it came, there was newspaper inside. Will they do the same or something?

💕 コード：002 💕 05-Mar-19 01:50 AM

Take pictures before sending it, take pictures of how you packaged it and take more pictures. If during shipping it's broken you have evidence to show it wasn't your fault.

Littlepip 05-Mar-19 05:37 AM

Wasnt it just a lose fan bearing though

💕 コード：002 💕 05-Mar-19 10:24 AM

p'much lol

hm843 06-Mar-19 12:23 AM

Hi

hm843 06-Mar-19 12:34 AM

what is considered decent ram?

Mike 06-Mar-19 12:46 AM

@hm843 2666+ mhz CL16-

Brajany 06-Mar-19 11:16 AM

Depends, if you have a Ryzen CPU, go for 2800Mhz or higher.

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 11:21 AM

Preferably from a name brand

Like corsair or gskill ripjaw

Sincerely, Phoenix 06-Mar-19 03:34 PM

Ok, so I just finished talking to a customer support representative from Cybertron PC. My original prebuilt that I received from them had a faulty GPU, RTX 2070, I shipped it back for a replacement part. Now I've been contacted back now that they've received it and are telling me they don't have my original card, MSI "Duke".

They're offering me a different brand of an that RTX 2070, EVGA (edited)

Should the brand of the card matter?

They told me that they didn't have my original card in inventory and asked if I was ok with a different brand, ASUS or EVGA

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 03:37 PM

mostly just different cooling and designs

id go with an evga card

I have an msi rtx 2080 duke myself

Sincerely, Phoenix 06-Mar-19 03:38 PM

So is it better to just get the EVGA or wait for them to have my original (edited)

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 03:39 PM

dunno, google around and see which brand has best reviews

asus , msi or evga

Sincerely, Phoenix 06-Mar-19 03:40 PM

I'm just not sure if I want to wait for them to have the MSI duke in inventory

It's already been 2 weeks or so since I received my PC

I'll do some research

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 03:41 PM

hearing about faulty card issue still is nasty though

Sincerely, Phoenix 06-Mar-19 03:41 PM

I hate it

But

If they're gonna replace it

Might as well do it asap

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 03:42 PM

yes

Sincerely, Phoenix 06-Mar-19 03:42 PM

I already had to pay $22 for shipping it back

Mycall 06-Mar-19 04:06 PM

Why would you need to pay shipping

Shouldn’t they cover the costs?

And check the warranty for the card

If it’s 3 years then you should be ok

Don’t go for the 2y ones

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:30 PM

* achooo * @Littlepip

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:30 PM

cero two

aw im mod

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:31 PM

https://tenor.com/view/zero-two-smile-darling-in-the-fran-xx-gif-12619756

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:31 PM

Can i stay as red contributor

i quit modding while back

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:31 PM

hmmm

that's fine

:P

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:31 PM

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

There's not much to do, anyways

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

use to manage big servers

i quiiiitttt

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

He quit instantly.. what a mad man.

https://tenor.com/view/zero-two-cute-kawaii-anime-gif-11990868

time2die:)

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

i have dinosaur spray

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

ineffective

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

wait look a meteor

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:32 PM

when dino angry nothing can stop her

oH WAIT NIBA

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:33 PM

lol

I skipped the last episode actually

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:35 PM

The best part, actually, then.

I liked every single episode.

Use the best streaming website, btw

:P

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:37 PM

i just download episodes

from horriblesubs or nya

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:38 PM

masterani.me does the same

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:38 PM

oh didnt it just get shutdown today

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:38 PM

except they don't like hsubs cuz bad compression

wait WHAT

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:38 PM

https://twitter.com/masteranidotme/status/1103436168572620801

masterani.me (@masteranidotme)

https://t.co/cnjAprvZiD

Likes

176

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:38 PM

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Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:39 PM

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:39 PM

time to change my game name (edited)

Time to re-setup my Plex server again

I really liked masterani.me cuz it tied to a service that was similar to MAL

And it kept track of what I watched and recommended some good anime

animefreak.tv seems good too

whoops

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:44 PM

yeh i saw that

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:44 PM

hahaha did you?

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:45 PM

💕 コード：002 💕 06-Mar-19 05:45 PM

misclicked lul

https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/ay5jgu/masteranime_dead/

r/Piracy - Masterani.me dead

51 votes and 33 comments so far on Reddit

btw

Littlepip 06-Mar-19 05:49 PM

yup

i still just ognna use nya and horriblesubs

i use mal to update what i seen

redscout 07-Mar-19 03:36 AM

Hi! Im considering this PC (website in Finnish, but think you can read the specs) 699 Euros, after a 20% discount. Do you think this is a good deal? https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/50544/ktfcb/HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Desktop-PC-690-0012no-poytakone-Win-10-64?list=OZZFUWhorKvh7hr9hj8tHhkMSa6

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop PC 690-0012no -pöytäkone, Win 10 64-b...

HP Pavilion Gaming -pöytätietokoneessa on panostettu sulavaan suorituskykyyn ja kirkkaaseen grafiikkaan. Lisäksi tietokone on muotoiltu rohkeaksi. Tietokone tarjoaa uusimman tekniikan ja päivitysmahdollisuudet, joten suorituskyky pysyy aina ajan tasalla.

Brajany 07-Mar-19 06:14 AM

No, that is not a good price.

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 06:17 AM

stuff more expensive in eu also i believe

BigIronOnHisHip 07-Mar-19 01:34 PM

Im thinking about building a pc

Can you guys answer any questions i may have?

(Its gonna be a while before i start though lol)

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 01:38 PM

/rbuildapc is pretty active, or nzxt discord

BigIronOnHisHip 07-Mar-19 02:17 PM

Ok thanks

josh. 07-Mar-19 04:06 PM

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC3J7K89949&Description=i5%201050%20ti&cm_re=i5_1050_ti-_-9SIAC3J7K89949-_-Product #recommended-deals LOL

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 04:12 PM

interesting

josh. 07-Mar-19 04:12 PM

typical nzxt

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Mar-19 04:25 PM

@BigIronOnHisHip you can ask building questions here

or pm me

@josh. lol what the hell is that pc and why is it so round

josh. 07-Mar-19 04:28 PM

nzxt is something else lmao

did u see the price lmao

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Mar-19 04:34 PM

yeah in nzxt's defense it looks like a crummy 3rd party seller that is hiking the price. 8400 + gtx 1050 ti for 1600 is just robbery

josh. 07-Mar-19 04:36 PM

word

josh. 07-Mar-19 05:47 PM

what is optane memory

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 05:56 PM

never heard of it till recent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwH5Q8ZFJvw

Techquickie

What is Intel Optane?

Intel Optane is a new storage technology that can be used as either a super-fast SSD or additional system RAM! Learn all about it right here. Squarespace lin...

josh. 07-Mar-19 06:24 PM

Just ordered a 1080 w a i7 8700 16gb ddr4 and 16gb optane for 1139

Easy cop

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 06:30 PM

nice

that sounds very fair

how much space it have

josh. 07-Mar-19 08:07 PM

2tb

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 08:17 PM

Cool

Optimist 07-Mar-19 08:18 PM

hi, i recently ordered from ibuypower and am getting error code 43 in device manager for detecting my gtx 2080 ti since initial setup. anyone familiar with the issue?

Brajany 07-Mar-19 08:29 PM

I don't think any of us dedicated contributors or moderators have any RTX cards, perhaps this might help?

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/861231/nvidia-amp-windows-10-how-i-solved-the-code-43-error-/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wKcDe6S0CU

Joey McManus

How to Fix and Prevent Nvidia Card Error Code 43 (Windows 10/8/7/V...

UPDATE: Error code 43 has returned to my PC. Very irritating. I've come to the conclusion that code 43 may not be solvable. I've been looking at a new PC and...

Littlepip 07-Mar-19 08:37 PM

I have an rtx 2080 but never had that error

Mark 07-Mar-19 09:27 PM

@Brajany Wow way to do my deal in by $30 smh haha

nice find

Brajany 07-Mar-19 09:32 PM

Pardon?

Disco 08-Mar-19 02:20 AM

So I was looking at this amazon one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Q89HJV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 but it looks like that walmart one in #recommended-deals is just straight up better and cheaper?

hm843 08-Mar-19 03:51 AM

Which is better: 3.4GHz AMD A4 5300B Processor or 3.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor?

Brajany 08-Mar-19 06:17 AM

Don't get either of those hm843.

@Disco I recommend you get the one in #recommended-deals it will load in games, and boot up a lot quicker.

Performance will be about the same, but, just, load times will be quicker, however, with the trade off of smaller storage.

Disco 08-Mar-19 06:41 AM

The price difference is really nice too

Brajany 08-Mar-19 07:04 AM

Yes, and, you can always add your own 2TB hard drive if you want, should only be about 50 USDs.

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:08 AM

Anyone help

Is awd it good website or nah

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:09 AM

@! ia ia ia ツ can you send a link? (edited)

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:15 AM

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-stronghold-2600-six-core-3.9ghz-rx-580-8gb-desktop-gaming-pc.html

AWD Stronghold 2600 Six Core 3.9GHz RX 580 8GB Desktop Gaming PC

I would of added 1tb hd and b450m ds3h mobo

Which would of been £560

What do you think?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:26 AM

it's a pretty good price

do you need win10?

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:27 AM

Yeah i would of got cdkey

But apparently people have had problems with awd it

Was wondering if anyone ever purchased it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:29 AM

I don't know their reputation, but I do know overclockers has a good reputation

might be pricier there though

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:30 AM

Ill check it out thanks for the info

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:31 AM

thing is about these custom pc companies -- it's not like they make the parts, they just assemble them. I doubt they'll ship something that is not working at all. Surely they at least turn it on. The parts listed are all good brands, asus powercolor, corsair. Perhaps the only thing that might be low tier is the PSU

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:32 AM

Damn its an extra 250

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:32 AM

as long as they have a decent return policy, you're probably safe ordering from them

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:32 AM

I was thinking maybe do the installment since ive never bought from them (edited)

People were complaing about delivery and awd it switching some of parts

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:33 AM

ew that would be bad

! ia ia ia ツ 08-Mar-19 11:34 AM

Thing is it was common every 10 reviews atleast 2-3 were problems with the parts

Anyway thanks for you help

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 11:34 AM

np good luck!

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:40 PM

Got my build in the mail... wont boot

Checked all the cables and everything

I get an indicator light on the video card but nothing else

Doesnt help that this case is an absolute bitch

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:43 PM

can you link the pc

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:44 PM

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1372079-REG/cyberpowerpc_gamer_master_gma6400cpg_ryzen.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAiA_P3jBRAqEiwAZyWWaLDggeUar1cJJZgB4EGDGHgtkKAoHPADE0J0B1Xqbp8ZcSwYO6DWvhoCBBAQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y

CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop Computer

Buy CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop Computer featuring 3.7 GHz AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core, 16GB DDR4 | 240GB SSD + 2TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti (8GB GDDR5). Review CyberPowerPC Gamer Master

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:44 PM

so no fans or anything spin up?

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:44 PM

No

Its hard to get to the cables for the power button because of the case

I have to open both sides to get to the power supply

And both sides are tempered glass

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:45 PM

did you toggle the psu switch on the back, and try powering on from both positions?

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:46 PM

The switch for the power supply? Yes

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:47 PM

check the 2 main power connectors to the mobo -- the large 24pin connector and the cpu connector

give them a good push to make sure they are secure

you can even unplug them entirely, then snap them down in place

AmariBot BOT 08-Mar-19 02:47 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo

CONGRATS You are now level 6!!!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:47 PM

they should actually "click" in

there is a chance those suckers became loose in the transport

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:49 PM

The 24 pin wont even budge, so i dont think its that

Im having trouble finding a cpu cable

Ill send a picture if you dont mind

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:49 PM

you can link it

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:50 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/462715702034563072/553711224672616461/20190308_175026.jpg

The 24 pin is that rainbow bunch on the right, correct?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:52 PM

yep

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:53 PM

All i see is that, the yellow cable, and a cpu fan cable on that side of the mobo

And they are all not budging

AmariBot BOT 08-Mar-19 02:53 PM

Bazoop

CONGRATS You are now level 1!!!

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 02:53 PM

Theres a fistful of other cables on the opposite side of the card

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 02:54 PM

the other thing to check is the power switch (the button on the outside of the case) and where it connects to the mobo

usually looks something like this http://www.buildcomputers.net/images/front-panel-headers.jpg

yeah on your specific mobo it should be in the bottom right

hopefully you can see it, the gpu might be in the way

gotta head home will be back on here in 30 min or so

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:04 PM

This is a bitch

Why does it look like to me they put the cables in the wrong pins

Or does that not matter

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:12 PM

Made the cables match the names on the board

Didnt make a damn difference..

Had to get a damn pair of tweezers for that

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:22 PM

Theres also something rattling when i reposition the machine but i can never find it

Sounds like a loose screw sliding around

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:55 PM

I got told to reseat the ram sticks by support, and try each with only 1 stick in for each

Didnt work

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 03:55 PM

yeah plus RAM isn't even needed to get power to the mobo asaik

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:56 PM

I didnt think so, if the ram was faulty id get a beep code right

He basically told me to get a friend or family member who knows computers to help me

I work desktop support, Im just completely stumped

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 03:57 PM

you called cyberpowerpc tech support? (edited)

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:57 PM

Yep

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 03:58 PM

and he told you to ask a friend? lmao

btw in your last image, the two pins behind teh reset SW is the important one

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 03:58 PM

He asked me if i knew about hardware, and i said kind of, so he said to find someone who does to help me because he cant really help over the phone

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 03:59 PM

maybe make sure the orientation is correct

PW+ should be on the left

PW- should be on the right

from the perspective of your photo

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:00 PM

The PW cable? Its facing with the text towards me, at the base of the PC like the rest

Since when i go to look at the top, i dont see text

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:00 PM

k just pop it off and look at teh label

make sure PW+ is the upper left

https://i.imgur.com/5JeQFpF.png

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:02 PM

Popped it out

AmariBot BOT 08-Mar-19 04:02 PM

Bazoop

CONGRATS You are now level 2!!!

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:02 PM

No +/- indicators

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:03 PM

ah i see

well I'm reading that the orientation doesn't actually matter for the switches

they were in spots 3 and 4 on the top row right?

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:04 PM

Yep

Right behind whatever RES is

Reset switch i guess

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:04 PM

kk that is the right spot

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:05 PM

Ill pop it back in

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:05 PM

hmm, well at this point if I were you I would unplug from the wall, and I would pull out the 24pin plug all of the way and re-plug it in

same with the 8pin cpu plug and fan

going to take some force

btw, maybe test on a different wall outlet altogether

to rule that out

one that is confirmed working

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:06 PM

Ive tried 2 outlets, ill try another before i risk breaking the mobo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:07 PM

yeah and before touching the plug

ground yourself

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:07 PM

No dice on the third outlet, thatd be too spectacular

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:08 PM

to ground just touch something metal, ideally a kitchen or bathroom faucet

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:09 PM

My desk uas these convenient metal supports, is that enough?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:09 PM

yeah should be fine

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:14 PM

Alright

Both unplugged

You werent kidding when you said force

Plugging them both back in

Fingers crossed

Doesnt seem like it worked..

Thanks for the help, it seems like im out of options

Glad i still have the box and and everythinf

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:34 PM

yeah damn sorry man that sucks :/ I would definitely start the return process

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 04:45 PM

so annyoing

messups like this make me not want to reccomend most prebuilts

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 04:48 PM

yeah it truly is the main downfall of prebuilts -- a lack of quality control

I suppose you can get dead-on-arrival parts if you build your own, but the expectation for a prebuilt should be that it at least turns on when it gets to your doorstep

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 04:55 PM

I found what was bouncing around in the machine since i unboxed it

Can anyone identify this:

Looks like some kind of clip, but im not sure

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 04:58 PM

lol

i believe i know what that is

it could be for the ram or the video card, it locks either of them down on the edges

could be wrong though

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:02 PM

Would you look at that

Just took out the card to check

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 05:03 PM

it was the pcie express clip?

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:03 PM

Theres no clip

Yep

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 05:03 PM

hm

not sure if you can just reapply it

never heard of that happening

@ToTimesTwoIsToo any idea

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:03 PM

I just kind plunked it back it

Seems to kinda work? I dunno lets see

Im desperate

I heard a click

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 05:05 PM

didnt work?

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:05 PM

A good click i think, i think i fixed something that doesnt benefit me and im not responsible for

At least it might save me face if i send it in for repair

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 05:07 PM

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:07 PM

Maybe itll work now

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 05:07 PM

yheah if you meant you heard a click pushing in the video card

thats what ur suppose to hear

so hopefully that was it

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:08 PM

Pc still wont turn on

Seems like zeus grants me no favor today

Theres this battlezone up here by the power button

I cant really check the cables up there

But the power button isnt exactly the most trustworthy button ive ever pressed, is it worth unscrewing the whole thing?

This is what i wanted to avoid by buying prebuilt

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 05:28 PM

mm

i dont know

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 05:34 PM

Interestingly, when i have the power supply on, and the video card plugged into it, it has a white light

When its not plugged into the power supply, it has a red light

Which tells me that, since it has any light at all, the motherboard its plugged into must be getting some kind of power

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 06:06 PM

you can also "start" the pc without the power button

just jump the two pins for the PW+ with a screwdriver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FOBL1c3pA

Snubber

How to turn on a computer without a power button

In this tutorial I tell you how to start a computer without a power button, it is very quick and easy, all you need is a screwdriver!

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 06:24 PM

Saved

Ill have a look ans see if i can

Might be hard to do idk where it is

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 06:28 PM

should be bottom right

of the motherboard

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 06:29 PM

Old picture

Is it that?

Littlepip 08-Mar-19 06:31 PM

ye

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 06:31 PM

it would be the two pins behind teh reset SW

remove the PW+ that is currently there

and try to touch them with a screwdirver

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 06:33 PM

Should i ground myseld

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 06:33 PM

never hurts just touch something metal

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 06:37 PM

I got a light near the power button to flash

But thats it

No magical whirring startup

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 06:38 PM

I see, that kind of rules out the power button being faulty

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 06:39 PM

I think im done with this

Gonna consider either repair from cyberpower or a return to the retailer

Return/replacement

Its clear that somethings out of my control i think

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 06:41 PM

yeah I agree you tried all of the reasonable options

I'd just process a return

Bazoop 08-Mar-19 06:42 PM

Well on monday im gonna have a really nice monitor thats gonna be too nice for my current pc to use

So thatll be nice

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Mar-19 06:43 PM

lol

💕 コード：002 💕 10-Mar-19 01:12 PM

920 users, woot.

Edwith 10-Mar-19 09:42 PM

heya a few weeks ago i was asking about build a pc and the rl happened and i had to delay. here is my idea i have for a parts list . I might reduce the video card to lower the cost .

any comments welcome

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWNmcY

Littlepip 11-Mar-19 05:37 AM

Uh I don't think That motherboard even supports ninth gen (edited)

Not sure how you got that

💕 コード：002 💕 11-Mar-19 01:11 PM

wait wut

pip

wym

1151? or am I missing smth

Littlepip 11-Mar-19 01:15 PM

?

yes its lga 1151 but that doesnt mean it supports 9th gen no

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Mar-19 01:59 PM

@Littlepip z390 chipsets support 9th gen coffee lake out of the gate

z370, like the one you linked, does too, but z370 might require a bios update (edited)

unfortunately you can't do the bios update without a CPU, so you would need an 8th gen cpu on hand

Littlepip 11-Mar-19 02:02 PM

yeh since hes new probably wouldnt wanna mess with that

ToTimesTwoIsToo 11-Mar-19 02:09 PM

yeah i agree^

Edwith 11-Mar-19 02:42 PM

Thanks for catching that

Littlepip 11-Mar-19 02:50 PM

pcpart picker tells you

Edwith 11-Mar-19 02:51 PM

I agree but I asked because installing new bios to support is an unknown to me and might have been simple

Littlepip 11-Mar-19 02:53 PM

ah

💕 コード：002 💕 11-Mar-19 03:01 PM

ah thanks

Edwith 11-Mar-19 03:38 PM

ok i will prolly drop to an i8 then and a lower video card

Coraline Thegunslinger 11-Mar-19 03:55 PM

anyone know of a good mid level laptop that can play stuff like kerbal, fallout NV and kenshi??

💕 コード：002 💕 11-Mar-19 04:27 PM

Check out /r/suggestalaptop, @Coraline Thegunslinger.

Mike 12-Mar-19 08:11 AM

@Coraline Thegunslinger https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWERED-Gaming-Laptop-15-2-Year-Warranty-144Hz-Intel-i7-8750H-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-Mechanical-LED-Keyboard-256-SSD-1TB-HDD-16GB-RAM-Windows-10/510869060 is this oos?

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@Edwith https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LktmTB

Mike 12-Mar-19 08:26 AM

what monitor do u have btw and what games do u play

and whats the use of this pc

Edwith 12-Mar-19 08:37 AM

Just 2 hp 25e displays nothing fancy. But almost exclusively gaming. No streaming of my gaming

@Mike

My games are all over the board. From newer to older.

Mike 12-Mar-19 08:38 AM

a 9700k or even 9600k would make more sense then @Edwith

and a sata ssd (mx 500) rather than nvme, less price for 2x storage

and i'd recommend checking the specs of your monitor

because you wouldn't want a 2080 ti if your monitor is 1080p 60hz or something

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Mar-19 10:31 AM

new monitor is fucking OP @Littlepip

Littlepip 12-Mar-19 10:32 AM

gud gud

also add me on discord

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Mar-19 10:32 AM

sorry I don't usually add people on Discord

I like keeping my friends' list empty :P

Brajany 12-Mar-19 10:36 AM

Whether I like it or not, my friends list, is always empty.

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Mar-19 10:36 AM

Besides, anyone can message me if they share a server with me

Littlepip 12-Mar-19 10:36 AM

oh i see

bakas

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Mar-19 10:37 AM

ur the baka

CliveKingston 12-Mar-19 03:04 PM

Does anyone know how I can get pc game audio and ps4 party chat audio and talk through ps4

Littlepip 13-Mar-19 01:02 PM

Not sure

Also @oscar when ur pc gets there can ya post on how it's working. Curious on nzxt blds

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Mar-19 02:02 PM

I was skeptical of their $100 flat build fee. I just tested with two different builds and the pricing checks out (edited)

my guess is that the build quality is pretty good

Littlepip 13-Mar-19 02:14 PM

skeptical of 100 build fee?

What ya mean

Think its too low?

AmariBot BOT 13-Mar-19 02:14 PM

Littlepip

CONGRATS You are now level 5!!!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Mar-19 02:15 PM

I suspected they were using MSRP prices for components, which could be much higher than market prices, but it appears their pricing is in line with current pricing for parts

if you go to pcpartpicker and choose the exact parts they list, then add 100, you more less get the total price they sell for

Littlepip 13-Mar-19 02:17 PM

i think its more like 200-400 dollars

extra

atleast when i tried

Anyways ignoring the price im just curious if theyre as good as I'd think they'd be

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Mar-19 02:18 PM

I see, like build quality and such?

Littlepip 13-Mar-19 02:19 PM

yeah

josh. 13-Mar-19 02:49 PM

is there a pc out there w/ a 1070ti and a cpu that wont bottleneck for <700? (edited)

or <800

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Mar-19 02:54 PM

@josh. this is the closest you'll get to gtx 1070 ti performance under 800 https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-PC-Desktop-Ryzen-5-2600-6-Core-3-4-GHz-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-6GB-500G-SSD-8GB-DDR4-AC-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-bit/598791800

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Mike 13-Mar-19 04:01 PM

@josh. you're gonna need to build if u want that under $800

CristianTCG 13-Mar-19 10:23 PM

Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/sys/d/san-jose-gaming-pc/6840422279.html

Gaming PC

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Brajany 13-Mar-19 11:23 PM

No, that is absolute rubbish.

Do not buy that.

Please.

1

Garbage.

Basura.

CristianTCG 14-Mar-19 06:56 AM

Thanks, still very new.

josh. 14-Mar-19 08:23 AM

#recommended-deals CyberpowerPC Gaming Desktop Gamer Master 2761T Ryzen 7 2nd Gen 2700X (3.70 GHz) 16 GB DDR4 512 GB NVMe SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Windows 10 Home 64-bit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=83-230-450&ignorebbr=true you’re welcome

Mike 14-Mar-19 09:10 AM

there are rtx 2070 pcs around that price

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Mar-19 09:25 AM

yeah for example https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230415&Description=rtx%202070%20desktop&cm_re=rtx_2070_desktop-_-83-230-415-_-Product

just add an 8gb stick of RAM later on and you're golden

Nomigan 14-Mar-19 02:53 PM

Hi, would you guys say that an i9 9900k and a gtx 1060 6gb be a good match? i'm mainly gonna use the pc for adobe rendering/edting ect

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Mar-19 02:53 PM

yeah that would be great for those tasks

Nomigan 14-Mar-19 02:55 PM

ah okay cause i've been looking at this https://www.freshtechsolutions.co.uk/intel-i9-9900k-240gb-ssd-16gb-3000mhz-gtx-1060-6gb-star-gaming-pc.html

Intel I9 9900K 240gb SSD 16gb 3000Mhz GTX 1060 6gb Star Gaming PC

The Starlight ATX Mid-Tower gaming case, with a full tempered glass left side panel. One Single-Ring Halo Rainbow RGB fan is included at the back and with room for an extra four fans this case really has something to offer. A Rainbow RGB strip on the fron

will add a hard drive

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Mar-19 03:01 PM

yeah looks good to me (edited)

pricing seems about right

Bazoop 14-Mar-19 03:33 PM

Getting a refund for the computer I couldn't get to work a while ago

Gonna be keeping my eyes on #recommended-deals

Originally just tried to have them send another one of the same build out to me

but I got an email saying that the product was discontinued

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Mar-19 03:38 PM

can you remind me what you got last time?

Nomigan 14-Mar-19 04:21 PM

Aight thanks for the help ^^

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 07:29 AM

I'll get the link

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1372079-REG/cyberpowerpc_gamer_master_gma6400cpg_ryzen.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAiA_P3jBRAqEiwAZyWWaLDggeUar1cJJZgB4EGDGHgtkKAoHPADE0J0B1Xqbp8ZcSwYO6DWvhoCBBAQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y

CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop Computer

Buy CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop Computer featuring 3.7 GHz AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core, 16GB DDR4 | 240GB SSD + 2TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti (8GB GDDR5). Review CyberPowerPC Gamer Master

Additionally, I'll let you guys know once the refund actually goes through

S&H has been pretty straight-forward and helpful so far, but it's hard not to be nervous when theres over a grand of money rolling around

AmariBot BOT 15-Mar-19 07:30 AM

Bazoop

CONGRATS You are now level 3!!!

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 07:47 AM

Browsing sites atm, see this with a 16 hour sale on it:

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Daily-Deal-Syber-L-VR-i7K-2060

Daily Deal Syber L VR i7K 2060

Daily Deal Syber L VR i7K 2060 Intel® Core™ Processor i9-9900K 16GB 8GB DDR4/3000MHz RAM ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 -CB Motherboard 240GB WD Green SSD + 2TB HDD Combo Windows 10 Home

Is this bait?

i9 9900k + 2060?

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 07:58 AM

Also, I got the refund

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 08:38 AM

The PC I posted has my interest as I'm looking at it, but liquid cooling makes me pretty terrified, since I know nothing/have no experience with it

The only thing I know is that liquid and motherboards don't get along

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 11:22 AM

What do you guys think of the deal I posted above? Is it a good deal or just meh

Brajany 15-Mar-19 11:35 AM

Overpriced, is it a good system? Yes, it's decent, is it amazing? No. Is it garbage? No.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:12 PM

@Bazoop Most of the cost is going toward a CPU that you probably won't utilize fully

you'd be better off with a 9700K or 8700K and a better gpu

it's not a bad system by any means, but for 1500 I'd prefer to have an rtx 2070 at the mimimum

unless you are doing heavy video rendering or the like, in which case the 9900K might be beneficial (edited)

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:14 PM

I'm also eyeing up that one $1100 in #recommended-deals as well, as thats about the price I paid for the last one

But with better specs, it seems

Most I do is rendering 3D animations, which would be GPU not CPU anyway, iirc

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:15 PM

ah gotcha. yeah in that case the 9900K would be nice (edited)

or

sorry

misread

so it depends. I a lot of 3d modeling work is actually cpu intensive

which software do you plan to use?

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:17 PM

Maya

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:18 PM

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-Maya-165/Hardware-Recommendations#GPU

Recommended System: Recommended Systems for Autodesk Maya

Our Recommended Systems for Autodesk Maya are application tested and optimized to give you the best performance and reliability. View our hardware recommendations.

"The majority of design tasks in Maya (including creating, modifying, and animating 3D models) are only able to utilize a single CPU core. That makes a high frequency CPU, regardless of the core count, an ideal choice for these tasks."

the GPU needs to be solid, but not necessarily great

most of the work is placed on the cpu

for 3d modeling and building, it's single threaded, so even an i5 9600K would probably do as well as the 9900K

however, when it comes to rendering, that is a very multi-threaded heavy task

so more cores the better

the 9900K offers best of both worlds -- very good single thread ability as well as a lot of cores

however, there ARE some newer renderers that are GPU based

so it might be worth knowing about those and whether they are beneficial to you

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:21 PM

I'll do some reading up on that then

If it's just a difference of a 6 hour render vs 8 hour render I don't think its worth the 400$ jump

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:22 PM

yeah I think rendering is already long and generally left on overnight, so the extra time you save won't even be noticeable

I'd probably shoot for an 8700K or 9700K

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:23 PM

At the same time, though, I understand its more difficult for me, the layman, to upgrade a CPU than it would be to swap in a new GPU

Technology advances too quick, man

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:25 PM

sure it's a consideration, but to be honest by the time the 9700K is no longer cutting it, you'll probably want a whole different pc anyways

so swapping a cpu is unlikely to happen if you start with a strong one

also, you might want to consider bumping up to 32 gb of ram

depends on teh workload

but some people find 16 too little

you might even see what the pricing looks like for the 9900K + 32gb RAM + 1660 ti

but then again, RAM is also pretty easy to add later on, so maybe starting out with 16 and seeing how that fares is a good strategy

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:27 PM

So long as I can have a couple non-chrome tabs open, a youtube playlist, and some non-intensive videogame running somewhat reasonably smooth I'm fine

Not sure what 32 gb would make a difference to a 16

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:28 PM

for gaming + chrome + apps 16 is plenty

but for heavy 3d modeling work, maybe you'll need more

i'm not too familiar with RAM usage for 3d modeling

AmariBot BOT 15-Mar-19 12:28 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo

CONGRATS You are now level 7!!!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:29 PM

yeah, "While the exact amount of RAM you need is going to depend on your particular projects, for Maya we generally recommend a minimum of 16GB. Very complex scenes may need up to 32GB of RAM, although it is rare for Maya to require more than 32GB."

so, it depends. Maybe start with 16 and if you need more, it's a 10 minute job to add more

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:30 PM

Seems sound enough to me

Man, if only that 1100 in #recommended-deals had 16 gb and not 8gb, i'd sweep that up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:34 PM

i mean there is this one but at an increased price https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227872&Description=2070%20desktop%2016gb&cm_re=2070_desktop_16gb-_-83-227-872-_-Product

Bazoop 15-Mar-19 12:41 PM

The price increase is about the price of additional ram anyway

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 12:45 PM

16gb is about 100 right now

prices came down finally

but

it also has the 2700x instead of the 2700

i don't think those combined still amount to 270 dollars, but still the overall price isn't bad (edited)

or buy the 1100 machine, sell the 8gb on ebay and purchase your own 16 RAM for around 120

Mike 15-Mar-19 03:36 PM

@Bazoop just add https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232419&Description=g%20skill%20aegis%208gb&cm_re=g_skill_aegis_8gb-_-20-232-419-_-Product

installing ram is very easy

16gb 3000mhz ram can be had for $70-80 nowadays

Inamak 15-Mar-19 04:33 PM

Is the rx580 equivalent to the GTX 1060 or GTX 1070? (edited)

💕 コード：002 💕 15-Mar-19 04:38 PM

1070 I'd say

around 1060-1070.

Kabari 15-Mar-19 04:39 PM

So its like a 1660 ti?

Inamak 15-Mar-19 04:40 PM

ah

Littlepip 15-Mar-19 05:39 PM

580 is 1050 ti equivalent

Mike 15-Mar-19 05:49 PM

no...

RX 580 is equal to the GTX 1060 6gb

maybe 1-2% better

60-80% more powerful than a 1050 ti (edited)

@Kabari @Inamak (edited)

Inamak 15-Mar-19 06:11 PM

interesting

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Mar-19 06:15 PM

thing to know about this range of cards -- nvidia just released gtx 1660 at the old price of the gtx 1060, rx 580. But the 1660 performs a lot better. Therefore you should see gtx 1060 prices go down quite a bit over the next half year

If I were buying a prebuilt today, I'd probably shoot for a gtx 1660, rtx 2060, or gtx 1070

I think the rx 580 and 1060 are on their way out

or, are transitioning into the medium-weight card for 1080p

Mike 15-Mar-19 06:18 PM

RX 580 remains a perfectly fine choice, GTX 1060 has been obsolete for quite a while (due to its price)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 16-Mar-19 09:30 AM

Good afternoon hope everyone is having a good weekend so far

josh. 16-Mar-19 09:51 AM

You too

Preston M 16-Mar-19 12:53 PM

bought this puppy based on reccomendations a couple weeks ago! https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102543. I ran the userbenchmarks and here are my results - can anyone give me some input?!

here was the geek test score!

Littlepip 16-Mar-19 01:02 PM

looks normal to me

Preston M 16-Mar-19 01:04 PM

normal as in good?

like should that be expected from the pc i bought ?

Littlepip 16-Mar-19 01:06 PM

Scroll down and read the rest

Seems like ram is underclocked but only by 200 mhz, cpu performing about average

rest is good

as in

performing as they should be

Dont know what a geek test is though

when i say good or average its in comparison to the same piece of hardware

Preston M 16-Mar-19 01:17 PM

okay perfect!

here is the rest

i need to re run the test, thought i had a screen shot

Silas 17-Mar-19 07:58 AM

Hey what is the Amd Ryzen 5 2600 equivalent to?

Mike 17-Mar-19 08:28 AM

@Silas around the i5-8400

Preston M 17-Mar-19 12:33 PM

anyone know if i can set up two monitors with this computer: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102543

can't seem to figure out how to if so

Littlepip 17-Mar-19 01:23 PM

The 1070ti will have multiple display port options

josh. 17-Mar-19 01:28 PM

as long as it has dvi im happy

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:22 PM

Anyone know if there is a way to monitor the PC? Like see if it is overheating or running properly

Like a master control panel just to make sure everything is ok and I'm not messing it up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:35 PM

I'd just use msi afterburner with OSD enabled to view stats during gameplay

you can view usage + temp data in real time

also you can run benchmarks like userbenchmark.com to make sure your parts are scoring correctly

this software won't flag any temp issues though

but with msi afterburner temp monitoring + userbenchmark you can be assured your pc is running as it should

@Preston M

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:38 PM

Did you see my userbenchmarks for the Newegg PC I bought

Can I get your opinion on them? I'll download MSI Afterburner tonight

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:39 PM

all i see is a screenshot, can you link the full url to the results page?

so I can see the score distributions

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:39 PM

yes on it

running download now

What should I do if a part is not running to par?

Ask for them to send it?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:40 PM

if you are still within return policy, return the whole pc. if you are under warranty, file a report and see how they want to handle it

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:40 PM

Damn return the whole PC

I love it already lol

I just got it last week

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/15582328

Just ran it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:42 PM

everything looks solid

especially your gpu

the only thing that scores low-ish is your ram

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:43 PM

How come it says my intel core i7 8700 is performing way below expectations?

Makes me nervous now

RAM also 12th percentile

Yikes

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:43 PM

the site just says this automatically if it is below teh 20% percentile or something

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:43 PM

I mean this bad boy is brand new

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

but percentile is not necessarily a statistical anomaly. The 8700 scores are already fairly tightly distributed

so 19th percentile isn't an outlier score

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

Ok good to know

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

I'd be content with that score tbh

for the RAM

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

So my RAM though - should I email them?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

it looks like it's running at a lower speed than it's actually capable of

see how it says 2400mhz?

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

Yes

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:44 PM

but the name of the ram says 2666mhz

you might need to enable XMP in the BIOS

to get the mobo to recognize the higher ram speed

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:45 PM

Can you talk to me like I'm 5, not sure what that means lol

XMP BIOS and MOBO are unknown terms

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:46 PM

the motherboard is a part on your PC that everything else plugs into, it looks like this https://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/ProductImage/13-145-042-V06.jpg

on that mobo is a small piece of software called the BIOS

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:46 PM

yes the verticle one in my build

ah mobo is motherboard

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:46 PM

yep

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:47 PM

gotcha bios on mobo

so do i turn on xmp by clicking a switch on mobo or is this done via internet

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:47 PM

and you can enter this BIOS software by usually pressing a special key on your keyboard before windows 10 starts to load when you first boot your pc

usually it's F12 or something like that

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:47 PM

ok gotcha

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:47 PM

it will actually say it on the screen

something like "setup"

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:48 PM

not gonna lie i feel like my windows loads right when i turn on my pc

it is already on, but idk

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:48 PM

there should be a very brief screen before the win10 loading page

it might only show for 1 second or 2

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:48 PM

windows meaning microsoft edge?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:48 PM

but basically once you enter BIOS there should be a setting that says "XMP" and you want to enable it

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:48 PM

the "E" to access internet

ok ten four

Will give it a go today

Thanks for the help, Ill re link you once it's enabled if you don't mind

Also learned today I need to displayport instead of HDMI because I am using a hdmi for a 165hz monitor

so it's bottlenecking it to 60hz

not gonna lie I thought 60hz was amazing but i ordered a displayport and am so excited for tuesday

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:51 PM

yeah and you need to actually set it to 165mhz in windows

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:51 PM

Yes I see in windows it says 60hz

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:51 PM

awesome yeah 160hz will look butter smooth

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:52 PM

I will need to figure out how to change it when I get the displayport

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:52 PM

yeah you just click that blue link "display adapter properties"

and there will be a drop down menu to select different refresh rates

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:52 PM

can i do it now or should i wait for displayport?

idk how normal ppl would ever figure this kinda stuff out tbh

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:54 PM

there is a good chance hdmi already supports 165hz

it depends on the version of hdmi you have

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:54 PM

i went into settings and it says i can pick 58,59 or 60

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:54 PM

oh strange

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:54 PM

for hz

i'm using the hdmi cord that supports 60hz, i found it on amazon

weird though that it is 58,59 or 60 on options

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:55 PM

gotcha, yeah just wait until you get display port

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:55 PM

i found that out when i learned what a displayport was

ok so can i ask: is win10 same as microsoft edge?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:57 PM

win10 is the operating system, microsoft edge is an internet browser

like google chrome

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:58 PM

ok gotcha

so im gonna restart and try to activate xmp

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:58 PM

kk

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:58 PM

maybe f12

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:59 PM

eitgher f2, f12, or delete

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:59 PM

so f11 is "boot driver"

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:59 PM

are the common ones

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:59 PM

what would it be called again?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 12:59 PM

it will say "setup" or "uefi" or "bios"

something liek that

Preston M 18-Mar-19 12:59 PM

it goes very fast

ok sounds good

i got in

turned xmp to auto instead of profile 1

turned fan up to "performance" since cpu was at 42 degrees Celsisus

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 01:06 PM

kk rerun userbenchmark and see if you're getting 2666mhz now

hmm from what I'm reading profile 1 should have set the ram speed to 2666mhz, so not sure why it didn't

Preston M 18-Mar-19 01:11 PM

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/15583034

yes i'm getting it now i believe

well 2667 which is interesting

I changed from auto to 1, my apolgoies

what do you think of the results now? think the PC is up to par with what we would expect?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 01:19 PM

oh sweet yeah everything looks perfect now

Preston M 18-Mar-19 01:19 PM

hell yea

thanks so much

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 01:20 PM

no problem, it's a very nice machine, enjoy it! as I said before it never hurts to monitor temps once in a while during games

Preston M 18-Mar-19 01:20 PM

yes ill download that msi

AmariBot BOT 18-Mar-19 01:20 PM

Preston M

CONGRATS You are now level 3!!!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 01:20 PM

anything below 85 degrees C for the cpu and gpu is pretty cool

Preston M 18-Mar-19 01:22 PM

Perfect! Duely noted. Thanks so much. Gonna do study now for a few hours (med student) tryn to learn as much PC stuff as I can around here lol

Domthedragon8 18-Mar-19 08:20 PM

is the HP Omen 15-T a good choice if I mainly plan on playing fortnite and using an HTC Vive?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 08:47 PM

@Domthedragon8 can you send a link?

Domthedragon8 18-Mar-19 10:28 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/omen-laptop-15t-5tr05av-1

Too much?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Mar-19 10:33 PM

hmm not too sure about laptops, you might try ask these guys though they should know much more https://discord.gg/RXsDNz4

Napes 19-Mar-19 07:12 AM

what about this? from woot-

https://www.woot.com/offers/dell-precision-3520-15-fhd-512gb-workstation-1?ref=w_cnt_gw_dly_tl

Dell Precision 3520 15" FHD 512GB Workstation - $899.99 - Free shi...

Y'know, sometimes it's easy to forget that we are living in The Future.

good deal or bad...

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 08:28 AM

.sal @Napes (edited)

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ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 05:06 PM

@Bazoop you ever find a desktop replacement yet or still looking?

Bazoop 19-Mar-19 05:18 PM

Yep, I ordered one of the ones suggested to me

I can fetch a link

It turns on fine, but because of some shipping problems I still don't have a monitor I can use with it to properly test it

Seems I will have to order another monitor

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 05:46 PM

cool glad you got that resolved!

Mark 19-Mar-19 08:18 PM

woah we're getting close to 1k members

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:01 PM

My dad owns a LAN company could someone link me a pc that can run comp games like LoL, Wow , Fortnite for abt 800-1000 no RTX cards because the monitors we ordered only support DVI for 144hz

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:13 PM

@josh. just get a DVI to DP cable

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

Theyre 107 per adapter

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

what?

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

Yeah

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

US?

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

Yeah

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

??

it's like $10 at most

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:15 PM

They have to be dual link adapters for 144

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:16 PM

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-DisplayPort-DVI-Cable-Feet/dp/B014RWWURC/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=displayport+to+dvi&qid=1553055366&s=electronics&sr=1-3

this is dual link

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:17 PM

That doesn’t work above 75hz

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:22 PM

what

how

it does

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 09:22 PM

which monitors did you buy?

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:23 PM

it supports whatever a standard dvi-dual link cable supports

which would be 1080p 144hz iirc

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:23 PM

Acer GN246HL Black 24" Gaming Monitors, 144 Hz 1ms (GTG), LED Backlight LCD Monitor Provide Immersive 3D Image http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=24-009-642&ignorebbr=true

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 09:29 PM

there is a good chance that hdmi will support 144hz too

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:30 PM

if its hdmi 2.0 yes

older versions cant

1.4 is 120hz i believe

nvm it's 1.4 for 144hz, 1.2 for 120hz

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 09:30 PM

it seems that monitor won't do 144hz unless you have dvi

according to QA

it's kind of ridiculous that a 144hz monitor with hdmi input won't support 144hz. hdmi 1.4 has been out for half a decade :/

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:32 PM

@josh. just get what i linked

guaranteed to work

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 09:32 PM

someone in the QA said it didn't work for them

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:32 PM

where

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 09:32 PM

https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1ZLSQDNBKYB71/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza

maybe that one guy is wrong, but idk

josh. 19-Mar-19 09:35 PM

Kinda sucks that all good deals have RTX

Mike 19-Mar-19 09:36 PM

it works fine at 144hz 1080p for my vg248qe, idk

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Mar-19 09:41 PM

@josh. you might consider getting monitors that support display port at least. Kind of doesn't make sense to be limited to your pc just because of a monitor

blimeym8 20-Mar-19 11:05 AM

any particularly good deals for around $1500-1600 on a gaming PC? trying to run fortnite at around 200 fps or higher with most settings set to low/medium and I do have a 240 hz mointor

Brajany 20-Mar-19 12:14 PM

@blimeym8 https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883102556

Easily can run Fortnite at 200 FPS on medium/low settings.

blimeym8 20-Mar-19 01:49 PM

how does this compare? obviously it's more expensive...

https://www.costco.com/iBuyPower-TRA1348G-Gaming-Desktop---Intel-Core-i7-9700K---GeForce-RTX-2080.product.100474981.html

Brajany 20-Mar-19 01:59 PM

Gaming performance wise, it's the same, it's a tiny bit better in video editing, streaming, and coding, a tiny bit, as in approximately 10 percent.

Mycall 20-Mar-19 04:44 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJa1uVUayEc

gitburdan

Corsair CX750 PSU Noise Problem

Despite it has been less than a month since i bought this Corsair CX750 PSU, it started to make these disturbing noises. Not sure if it is serious. Should i ...

Are these noises normal from a computer? (Ignore the buzzing/grinding sounds)

Are they from the gpu?

AmariBot BOT 20-Mar-19 04:45 PM

Mycall

CONGRATS You are now level 2!!!

Littlepip 20-Mar-19 04:50 PM

no

o

under a heavy load some gpus fans are quite loud

https://youtu.be/8rqc5bcAXVw?t=249

Gamers Nexus

GTX 1060 - Fan Noise & RPM Test and Comparison

Just a quick, standalone video of the GTX 1060 that tests noise of the reference, MSI's Gaming X, the RX 480, and reference 1070. Some objective measurements...

depends on type of fans

meant no for the psu though when i said that

Mycall 20-Mar-19 04:56 PM

That sounds fine

Not the issue I’m having

I’m wondering what component could cause it

Littlepip 20-Mar-19 05:06 PM

whats your issue

Mycall 20-Mar-19 05:17 PM

The video I linked has a sound in it which sounds like wWWWwWWwW. If you watch the video with headphones you should be able to pick it up. The question is, is it coming from the PSW or GPU, and is it normal?

Littlepip 20-Mar-19 05:24 PM

yeah i saw it, wearing headphones too

i dont know what you mean by wWWWw sound, maybe that tiny cracking sound

more likely to be psu though

Mycall 20-Mar-19 05:47 PM

Can you hear a fan being very inconsistent in the video? Like it doesn’t know what setting it wants to be on

Switching every couple milliseconds

💕 コード：002 💕 20-Mar-19 05:53 PM

Which vid?

Mycall 20-Mar-19 05:54 PM

The one I sent

Once he starts recording the inside of the machine

Littlepip 20-Mar-19 05:57 PM

it sounds consistent to me

Mycall 20-Mar-19 06:07 PM

I’m pretty bad at explaining it

Ugh

💕 コード：002 💕 20-Mar-19 06:14 PM

Ah yes

The PSU sound you mean

Mycall 20-Mar-19 06:23 PM

If you can somewhat understand what I’m talking about, do you think it’s normal?

Coil whine isn’t my issue as it’s a perfectly normal thing

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:03 PM

Just as im about to head to sleep i get a dpc watchdog violation

Happens again after a few seconds of using windows on restart, can barely troubleshoot

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 07:04 PM

how many SSDs do you have?

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:05 PM

One

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 07:05 PM

try to enter windows with safe mode

to see if you can get it to be stable there

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:13 PM

Its stable it seems in safe mode

From here i can see that it thinks it has two disk drives

Instead of 1 hdd and 1 ssd

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:23 PM

Wow

Dis defrag literally isnt in services.msc

How the fuck does this even happen this is a brand new pc

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 07:30 PM

why do you need defrag?

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:30 PM

I dont know, im just trying to figure out whats wrong, and the defrag tool might force the pc to see the ssd correctly

I deploy a dell pc at least every day for work and ive never had to deal with anything this complicated out of the gate

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 07:32 PM

so everything was fine for while ?

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:32 PM

Yep, fine until i start to get tired

Not sure what did it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 07:34 PM

a lot of people online are mentioned outdated SSD firmware

I would find the exact make/model of your SSD and run the firmware updater software in safe mode if possible

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:34 PM

I ran an sfc scannow, which apparently detected corrupt files and repair them

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 07:35 PM

gotcha, see if that helps

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 07:56 PM

Yeah their dashboard software says everything is in order already

Sheesh

Are prebuilts usually wonky on first time use? Or are dell business machines just pretty hard to fuck up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:03 PM

I would say it's not normal, but sadly it's still too common

dell has good quality control

maybe try system restore?

go back to a date that was working

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:12 PM

I ran all sorts of scans and diagnostics

Now that im booting normally its doing a scan and repair

When thats done, if it still doesnt work ill do a restore

I also rolled back the display drivers, since i had updated them myself

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:13 PM

yeah and if all else fails, maybe just do a win10 reset

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:36 PM

Why is there an option to restore it to the future

Also, i like that they packed all these driver disks with a computer that doesnt have a disk drive

Excellent work, msi

The date on the pc is correct but a restore state is in the future

Maybe i should do it. Maybe its really tomorrow's computer, and its magically working

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:44 PM

haha

i'd pick the earlier one

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:50 PM

It restored and it happened again :(

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:51 PM

you chose the earliest date available?

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:51 PM

Yep

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:53 PM

if you don't have a lot installed on your windows drive, you might as well do a win10 reset

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:54 PM

Theres nothing fuckin installed this is the first time ive ever used the damn thing

Im about to toss the thing in the garbage

Sorry if that comes off hostile, im just jokin around

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:55 PM

in that case yeah I'd just do a win10 reset

maybe do teh "remove everything" option (edited)

should nuke basically eveything and then fresh install win10

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:56 PM

Ive never used more than one drive, other than for having multiple OSs

Should i be saving normal files to the disk drive, and just use the SSD for the OS?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:57 PM

it really should matter much -- you can save stuff to either drive really

just don't fill up your os drive

leave about 20% free space or so

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:58 PM

Oh my god it needs windows installation media

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 08:58 PM

what does, teh reset option?

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 08:58 PM

Yep

It says it needs a recovery environment

What on earth

And they gave me a CD

For the computer without a damn disk drive

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:00 PM

rofl

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:00 PM

This is apex fucking comedy

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:01 PM

if you have a usb drive you can get the media from microsoft website https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

or actually follow this guide https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10/how-to-create-a-recovery-drive-for-reinstalling/58df9c7d-84de-4652-9952-8bac34abc6c5

How to: Create a Recovery Drive for reinstalling Windows 10

Technical Level : Basic Summary One of the big questions persons interested in Windows 10 are asking is how will they reinstall the operating system if needed? As you might know, many users will

still needs a usb drive with at least 4gb of space

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:03 PM

I got that

Whos idea was this

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:04 PM

bill gates xD

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:04 PM

Who fuckin did that who made windows like this

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:04 PM

damn what a catch 22

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:04 PM

You seriously cant make a damn recovery drive in safe mode

Worst comes to worst

I can probably swipe an external disk drive or something from my workplacr

But if i was any other profession id be pissed

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:07 PM

you might boot into safe mode, go to start and type msconfig

then on general tab, select diagnostic startup

restart and see if it's stable

it shoudl load more than safe mode, but hopefully not throw the BSOD

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:08 PM

Im downloading windows on my usb stick using the first link you sent

The win10 setup tool or whatever

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:09 PM

oh ok that runs in safe mode? (edited)

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:09 PM

Well, it has a percentage climbing right now but it wouldnt be the first time this motherfucker lies to me today

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:10 PM

it's a progress bar for the error message at teh end xD

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:10 PM

Yeah precisely jfc

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:10 PM

gotta load that blue screen

god what a mess (edited)

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:12 PM

Holy fuck

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:13 PM

ah

yeah it really might not be possible to run in safe mode

:/

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:15 PM

When booting normally....

I cant wait for bill gates and the msi ceo to bust down my apartment door and tell me im a part of some reality tv show

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:16 PM

yeah you might just need to run these on a different win10 machine

hahah

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:21 PM

Luckily im the king of bargain bin 200$ i3 laptops

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:28 PM

I took it to another pc

Made the recovery drive

Put it in

Reset

And it still cant detect it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:29 PM

you need to boot from the usb

you might have to enter BIOS and change boot order

or

there might be a key you can presss to enter select a boot device

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:30 PM

Yeah im used to imaging PCs

Maybe i shouldnt have made the recovery drive on my chinese pc

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:31 PM

haha what the hell

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:32 PM

Okay i booted from it

Looks like normal windows

Network is disabled again

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:33 PM

uh it should boot to a screen asking you options like "repair this pc" or "reinstall windows 10"

did it do that?

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:33 PM

It doesnt seem like it did

That chinese was keyboard formats

Oh this is it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:36 PM

yes

do you read mandarin?

you need this to be in english I think

or something you can read

Jewsus 20-Mar-19 09:38 PM

I am very confused with the cpu for my budget build. I have choosed the remaining parts. Should i go with an i3-8100 or Ryzen 3 2200g. I have a dedicated graphic card ( rx 570). I want future proofing and good fps in overwatch and fortnite. Thanks in advance

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:39 PM

This is basically "Have problem, cannot reset back to recent windows version, restart computer or try again later"

Smfh

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:40 PM

which optoin did you choose?

in the initial menu

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:41 PM

Oh i chose the wrong option youre right

Fuckin chinese

Damn wait, i did

Its hard to use the menu through translation

Im just going to have to wait until tomorrow and make a recovery disk then

Thanks for your help, i really appreciate it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 20-Mar-19 09:45 PM

basically there should be an optoin to repair

you might try that first

if not, there shoudl be an optoin to reinstall windows 10

that should work

Bazoop 20-Mar-19 09:45 PM

Alright, ill look for that

Littlepip 20-Mar-19 09:46 PM

prolly wont fix it though

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 11:58 AM

Hey. I'm looking for a prebuilt gaming PC for under 600£.anyone have suggestions?

Would appreciate any help. I'm looking for a GTX 1060 6gb and AMD 1350 min. The others can vary

Brajany 21-Mar-19 12:29 PM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fierce-Spiker-High-End-Gaming-PC/dp/B07JMZH2RL/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1552394885&sr=1-9&refinements=p_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A15934881031&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&th=1&psc=1 @Snowyyy

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 12:31 PM

Fierce RIPPER Vegas RGB Gaming PC - Fast 4.2GHz Octa-Core AMD FX-8350, 1TB Hard Drive, 16GB 1600MHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, Windows 10 Installed 334652 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N3T3ZAN/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_tA-KCbZB5GWSE

@Brajany compeared to that. It doesn't seem to be a great deal @Brajany

Especially that there is no software installed

Brajany 21-Mar-19 12:35 PM

The CPU is not the greatest, and, the RAM is DDR3? Not to say DDR3 is bad, but, then to upgrade, you would need a new motherboard, and, your probably should get a new CPU.

I mean, there's this as well. https://m.newegg.com/global/uk-en/product/N82E16883102516

And this, if your budget can expand a bit more. https://m.newegg.com/global/uk-en/product/N82E16883102561

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 12:54 PM

Well I'm actually hoping not to upgrade for two years minimum @Brajany

And I live in Finland. Does it ship here?

Brajany 21-Mar-19 12:56 PM

I mean, in my opinion alone, I suggest you do not purchase the PC you are suggesting, because the CPU is pretty old and oudated.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 12:56 PM

Are there any other models on Amazon that you think is better?

I cannot find descent ones at around 600€ the ones you suggested costs around 800€

And is the 2300X future proof?

The one your suggesting is around the same price as the one I posted. Do you think for the meanwhile. Which one would be better? I'm mainly looking to play PUBG, Fortnite, Apex, GTA on it. Maybe CS-Go also

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:02 PM

The 2300X will be good for around 2 years, maybe up to four years, depending what you're doing. For those games, you'll be fine.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:02 PM

It falls just short of the one I was suggesting though.

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:06 PM

https://m.newegg.com/global/fi-en/product/N82E16883998763

Using Finland's version of Newegg.

i5 7400, is better than either yours, or my suggestion, in terms of CPU, graphics card could be better, but, 1050 Ti will be fine for the games you listed, 100+ FPS on CS:GO, and, easily 60 FPS on Apex Legends.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:12 PM

That's way over my budget. Can you bring that down 200?

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:19 PM

Well, this is as low as it goes.

https://m.newegg.com/global/fi-en/product/N82E16883227794

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:44 PM

@Brajany I think I can get your first recommendation

Should I get the full set with the monitor?

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:45 PM

Let me see.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:46 PM

I think I'll get this set. It's cheaper than the package offer

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:47 PM

Alright, sounds good, but, you can also get this monitor, for a cheap price.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-21-5-Monitor-E2270SWDN-Black/dp/B016UPDUBO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=60Hz+monitor&qid=1553201212&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:48 PM

But how will the latency effect my gameplay?

It has a 5ms

It doesn't have HDMI

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:51 PM

5ms eh, not favourable, but, think about, a human's reaction time is around 100ms to 350ms when adrenaline is going through them, 5ms is a very small amount, honestly, I hate to be an asshole, but, get good? Sure, there's a point where you hit a skill ceiling, but, isn't this just an entry level system you're going for?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AOC-21-5-Monitor-E2270SWDN-Black/dp/B016UPDULO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=60Hz%2Bmonitor&qid=1553201212&s=gateway&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1

HDMI ^

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:53 PM

Looks good. Thanks!

Just cut off 50£ or 80€ lol

807€ for the whole set. Definitely doable

Brajany 21-Mar-19 01:55 PM

No worries, hope everything goes well.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 01:55 PM

Oh, the monitor doesn't deliver to Finland

Acer K242HLbid 24 Inch FHD Monitor, Black (TN Panel, 5 ms, HDMI, DVI) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01L89GYRY/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_bR.KCbXCBQMEY

24 inch. Think I'll take this. Thanks again

So. How much would it cost me to get Windows 10? Cause the PC is charging me 100£ extra for it

Do I buy it from online?

Brajany 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

You don't NEED it, the only difference between having it and not having it is, basically a watermark.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

Nothing else?

Brajany 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

Even then, there's a script, to make it go away.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

Oh. Cool. I'll do some research

Brajany 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

Well, you don't get a lot of the Microsoft services.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

That just lowered my budget alot

Brajany 21-Mar-19 02:01 PM

You really don't need it.

It's nice to have, but, not needed.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:02 PM

Well that just cut my budget by 100£ lol

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:12 PM

Anyone know what I cannot do if I don't have the activation key?

Can I still get the background, move apps around. Full access to the settings?

Littlepip 21-Mar-19 02:13 PM

no you cant change wallpaper

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:16 PM

But I can have access to Virtually everything else right?

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Brajany 21-Mar-19 02:23 PM

Yes, you can still use Google, can still play games and, you can still download software.

Snowyyy 21-Mar-19 02:44 PM

Sounds fine for me. Think I'll go with the pirated version then. I'll get a key from kinguin when it gets annoying

Brajany 21-Mar-19 02:51 PM

While I do not condone pirating, having the non activated Windows 10 key, is fine.

https://youtu.be/dbmRl3lweTQ Here is a video for the script.

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How to remove the "Activate Windows" watermark quickly and fo...

I'm sure that all of you who have the free version of Windows 10 absolutely hate the watermark that it comes with. It's extremely annoying when gaming, video...

Littlepip 21-Mar-19 03:02 PM

I wonder if wallpaper engine would work

Snowyyy 22-Mar-19 01:34 AM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fierce-Spiker-Gaming-PC-Compatible/dp/B07JMZCBTJ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=gaming%2Bpc&qid=1553243470&refinements=p_36%3A428448031%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A15934881031&rnid=8322541031&s=computers&sr=1-5&th=1 is that onea bettermodel?

10 pounds cheaper. the RX 570 (edited)

Snowyyy 22-Mar-19 05:40 AM

There's also an RX 580 8gb version for the same price as the GTX 1060 3gb but with no ssd

Snowyyy 22-Mar-19 07:41 AM

@Brajany how's that deal?

Brajany 22-Mar-19 07:42 AM

That's good, pretty good deal you got. RX 570 is a very capable graphics card, and, so as the CPU.

OIiv3r 22-Mar-19 10:27 AM

Anyone here used Laptops Direct to buy a PC?

JKL 22-Mar-19 05:17 PM

it arrived

josh. 22-Mar-19 07:16 PM

what is that

Littlepip 22-Mar-19 07:17 PM

hope ya get no issues

JKL 23-Mar-19 12:02 AM

it's running great

omigerd upgrading from integrated graphix intel laptop to a i9 9900, 2070 rtx made me jizz a little

Snowyyy 23-Mar-19 02:44 AM

Guys, can this computer be in the hall of fame? Lol

AMD A6 7310 with the integrated GPU. AMD Radeon R4. Benchmarks of 1000 and 2300 lol

It was 550€ two years ago lol

Fortnite 30FPS on the lowest possible settings

dinoman 23-Mar-19 11:56 AM

careful with ya headset it look like it gonna break

Littlepip 23-Mar-19 12:20 PM

good to hear so far jkl

josh. 23-Mar-19 06:58 PM

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/b725ce572f59c1645e4b59e6af594323-png.jpg

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JKL 23-Mar-19 11:57 PM

Hmmm i9 9900, rtx 2070 was getting 45-50C

With 94% gpu n 80%memory

On a 1920x1080 60hz

Wots goin on zz

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:13 AM

i9 9900k is a hot cpu, also you got a lot of shit in background on or what (edited)

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:14 AM

chrome, discord, and steam

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:14 AM

how many tabs

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:14 AM

like 10?

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:14 AM

hm

check task manager

see whats taking up all the memory

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:15 AM

it was mainly chrome and ffxv

for memory

Mike 24-Mar-19 12:15 AM

45-50C isn't hot

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:15 AM

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:15 AM

but gpu spiked to 94, which i don't get, thought rtx 2070 could handle more

(edited)

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:16 AM

94C spike?

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:16 AM

%

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:16 AM

oh

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:16 AM

holy 94C

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:16 AM

im not sure what ya mean here exactly, the more gpu usage the better

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:17 AM

oh it is?

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:17 AM

Yes

You want gpu usage as high as possible

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:17 AM

i'm like not tech savvy at all

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:17 AM

The lower means the cpu is bottlenecking

Or that youre not playing something intensive

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:17 AM

the fps was dipping to 30 sometimes

i dun understand

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:18 AM

is that the new rtx final fantasy one

well not that its on by default i thnk

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:18 AM

they cancelled the rtx

apparently

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:18 AM

whats the game called

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:18 AM

FFXV

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:19 AM

What resolution u palying at

oh

nvm

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:20 AM

only 1920x1080 @60Hz

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:20 AM

https://youtu.be/dczjfvPm5pQ?t=41

yasin erkan

RTX 2070 \ 12 Games in 1080P \ "COD Black Ops 4" "Forza Horizon 4"...

"EVGA RTX 2070 XC Gaming", 1080P Performance Benchmarks with 12 Demanding Games such as "COD Black Ops 4" "Forza Horizon 4" etc. EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 XC on ...

This dude gets 67 fps average on final fantasy xv

with a 2070, not sure what cpu

that games pretty demanding

Mike 24-Mar-19 12:21 AM

a 2070 with a 1080p 60hz monitor?

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:21 AM

i'll buy another monitor in the future

i got the pc yesterday

Mike 24-Mar-19 12:21 AM

i find the term "bottleneck" silly but if I would ever call anything a bottleneck it'd be the monitor

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:21 AM

well hes playing demanding games such as xv so

hes fine for now

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:22 AM

didn't realize xv was that demanding damn

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:22 AM

yeah id probably get like 80 fps maybe average

on highest settings

Mike 24-Mar-19 12:22 AM

still overkill for the monitor, i'd get a 1440p 144hz one

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:22 AM

yea i went to fry's today to buy one

they didn't have anything zz

Mike 24-Mar-19 12:23 AM

dont they have a 1440p 144hz curved samsung monitor?

for $300

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:23 AM

they did but not in stock

all the 144 hz were 800$ big hunkers

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:24 AM

btw send a pic of task manager if you can

showing the mem usage

idk how much ram usage ffxv uses

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:24 AM

a sec need to boot up game again

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:24 AM

if the mem usage is back to like 30% then you should be fine

when not ingame

with game off

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:25 AM

yea its 30 ish when not ingame

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:25 AM

normal stuff then

16gb of ram aint nothing too special

Minimum in 2019 id say

minimum reccomended amount

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:27 AM

yea i need to buy more

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Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:28 AM

I guess

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:28 AM

wonder what cyberpunk will need for specs

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 12:29 AM

im gonna guess youd get like 70-80 fps average in that game

not that i know but doesnt look as crazy as finaly fantasy xv

JKL 24-Mar-19 12:31 AM

OIiv3r 24-Mar-19 02:27 PM

Should I get a GTX 1060 with an i5 8400 and buy a good Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse. Or buy a GTX 1070/RTX 2070 with an i7 8700 and get the rest cheap?

Littlepip 24-Mar-19 02:29 PM

I gamed on a stock mouse and keyboard for the longest time those can wait

And monitor (edited)

Brajany 24-Mar-19 02:42 PM

Depends on the price of the PCs, and the monitor specs.

Also, it depends on the games you want to play. If you're playing Assassin's Creed Odyssey at maximum settings, you definitely want the RTX 2070, if you are playing Fortnite: Battle Royale at the lowest settings, 1080p, with view distance all the way up, then, even something like a GTX 1050 will be adequate.

OIiv3r 24-Mar-19 04:09 PM

Not sure, its just im getting my first PC and im not sure whether to dive straight into the deep end with like a £1400 PC or just get a cheap one for now and upgrade over time

Mike 24-Mar-19 05:44 PM

@OIiv3r without good peripherals & monitor your experience will still be shit honestly (edited)

and depends on what you mean by cheap monitor

if you get a 60hz 1080p monitor with an rtx 2070... well....

Brajany 24-Mar-19 09:38 PM

@OIiv3r How does this look? https://m.newegg.com/global/uk-en/product/N82E16883102550 https://m.newegg.com/global/uk-en/product/9SIA6ZP8AU5316

JKL 24-Mar-19 09:57 PM

what kinda idiot buys 2070 with a 60 hz monitor

Edwith 24-Mar-19 10:07 PM

prolly one who intends of buying better monitors later

OIiv3r 25-Mar-19 12:30 AM

Im looking to buy one in store thats the problem, I know its cheaper online but I have a bad experience with Online Shopping, therefore for £1000 Its only around a 1060 :/

Mike 25-Mar-19 08:22 AM

@OIiv3r not even amazon?

OIiv3r 25-Mar-19 09:22 AM

I can do amazon yes, but sites like newegg I dont entirely trust

Mike 25-Mar-19 10:39 AM

1000 gbp for a 1060 pc is a joke

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADMI-GAMING-PC-GeForce-Graphics/dp/B0779DRG14/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=2060+pc&qid=1553535446&s=gateway&sr=8-11 Just a brief search and found something that's far better for less

Brajany 25-Mar-19 11:21 AM

@OIiv3r https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fierce-Spiker-High-End-Gaming-PC/dp/B07JMZH2RL/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1552394885&sr=1-9&refinements=p_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A15934881031&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&th=1&psc=1 This will do great. Why don't you trust Newegg?

Mike 25-Mar-19 11:58 AM

Newegg's not very well known for their customer support

I've had both good and awful experiences with Newegg CS, YMMV

for such a big purchase I'd understand why people would be hesitant to buy from Newegg (edited)

OIiv3r 25-Mar-19 02:29 PM

Yeah, from the reviews ive seen ive seen nothing but negative reviews and complaints

@Brajany that looks good, is that processor and ram good enough? I could probabaly upgrade a bit if necessary

JKL 25-Mar-19 02:50 PM

The retard who bought a 2070 rtx just bought himself a new monitor to replace his 60fps monitor

And a dp to dp wire as well ofc

Maxwell 25-Mar-19 03:07 PM

Any suggestions for a standard office PC? Reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/suggestapc/comments/b5h1n6/need_a_pc_for_the_office_that_can_handle_multiple/

r/suggestapc - Need a PC for the office that can handle multiple m...

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Or should this not be in general discussion

JKL 25-Mar-19 03:22 PM

Used xfinitywifi free hotspot to download 550 gigs of games leeel

1

In 2 days

Snowyyy 26-Mar-19 08:09 AM

It came. Yey lol

Brajany 26-Mar-19 12:16 PM

Pheedy 26-Mar-19 01:35 PM

CYBERPOWERPC Gamer Master GMA1394A

You guys see this on amazon?

https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Master-GMA1394A-Gaming-GeForce/dp/B07GG62872?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_2a110084_NA&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1&psc=1

Seems really good for the price

Brajany 26-Mar-19 02:15 PM

Ah, I was quite literally about to post that in #recommended-deals, yes, quite a good deal, considering it's liquid cooled as well.

halftherex 26-Mar-19 05:38 PM

So, I've been living with laptops for years

is a prebuilt pc like this easy to upgrade?

Littlepip 26-Mar-19 05:44 PM

like what

?

halftherex 26-Mar-19 05:44 PM

Just any part I want to replace

Including GPU and CPU

or are there likely to be space or heat limitations that make it harder

Littlepip 26-Mar-19 05:45 PM

depends on case

but should be no issues replacing anything

if the case is big enough

Mike 26-Mar-19 09:31 PM

eh "liquid cooled" is just marketing

the average 120mm aio probably cools as well as a $20-30 heatsink (edited)

+ chance of leaking

Snowyyy 27-Mar-19 08:59 AM

Anyone play PUBG? Steam version? Feel free to hit me up in DM I'm usually down for a game.

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Mar-19 05:16 PM

KBlastToday at 8:02 PM Hi. I am looking to buy a PC. I have been a Mac user for 7 years, ready to move to a desktop. I have never bought a PC, so I am fairly uncertain of what to get. If I could get everything (including monitor) for under $1000, I'd be happy. I know it's not enough to buy a 'gaming' computer, but I would like to be able to play some games (for instance, simple action RPGs like Diablo, WoW, etc.) @KBlast

Here you will be able to be assisted

.rd

Dyno BOT 27-Mar-19 05:16 PM

Greetings. The /r/suggestapc mod team recommends checking out the #recommended-deals channel for our personal recommendations, this channel is updated frequently with new finds.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Mar-19 05:17 PM

@KBlast you can certainly get a good gaming pc + monitor for 1000

I'd recommend this pc https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-PC-Desktop-Ryzen-5-2600-6-Core-3-4-GHz-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-6GB-500G-SSD-8GB-DDR4-AC-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-bit/598791800?u1=72f10e50-ad12-4fc9-b031-b955dbc540e9&oid=657868.1&wmlspartner=oelFIBIMgTk&sourceid=23904759591163341416&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

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💕 コード：002 💕 27-Mar-19 05:18 PM

For that budget you can get a kickass PC! :)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Mar-19 05:18 PM

pair with a 1080p or even 1440p monitor

will play any game on the market at very high settings

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Mar-19 05:18 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo is there a common PC deal you offer frequently? I think this is the third time I see you recommending that deal. Is that a deal now or has it been for a while?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Mar-19 05:18 PM

its been out for a few weeks and it's currently the best gaming pc under 800

so i've been recommending it a lot

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Mar-19 05:21 PM

I can add these to @Dyno

KBlast 27-Mar-19 05:24 PM

Is Radeon HD 7850 a good video card?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Mar-19 05:25 PM

not really but it's probably ok for older games

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Mar-19 05:25 PM

For $1k you'd better off getting a good GPU to run new things.

KBlast 27-Mar-19 05:25 PM

k

💕 コード：002 💕 27-Mar-19 05:26 PM

It's like spending $30k for a car and it has no new features like bluetooth, power windows, no sunroof, etc...

@ToTimesTwoIsToo

I can add links to dynobot

just like .sal

and .rd

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Mar-19 05:33 PM

that sounds cool, any way to auto-pull those from links in recommended deals channel/

or maybe just link the deals that seem stable price wise

manually

KBlast 27-Mar-19 07:06 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo Do you recommend a monitor to go with that PC?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Mar-19 07:17 PM

I think I'd go for a 1080p 144hz monitor if I were you

josh. 28-Mar-19 05:41 AM

#recommended-deals been dry lately

Snowyyy 28-Mar-19 08:47 AM

Anyone know how to overclock an unoverclockable CPU?

Brajany 28-Mar-19 03:24 PM

1000 members.

3

At everyone.

Pheedy 28-Mar-19 04:24 PM

Any suggestions on a streaming pc around 600-700?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Mar-19 07:19 PM

@Pheedy stretch for this https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-PC-Desktop-Ryzen-5-2600-6-Core-3-4-GHz-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-6GB-500G-SSD-8GB-DDR4-AC-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-bit/598791800?u1=72f10e50-ad12-4fc9-b031-b955dbc540e9&oid=657868.1&wmlspartner=oelFIBIMgTk&sourceid=23904759591163341416&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

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kay 29-Mar-19 12:11 PM

I'm looking at buying a pc for my brother who plays a lot of Fortnite. He found this and was wondering if this is good to play on mostly low/medium settings and get 150 fps+ - https://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberpowerPC-Regiment-1060-Gaming-PC/dp/B074DYWQ7F/ref=mp_s_a_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1553878673&sr=8-22&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=gaming%2Bpc&dpPl=1&dpID=41m4rdneX%2BL&ref=plSrch&fbclid=IwAR2BUPIftr_nCcNkS6ZfJsEroAmp-0B6DFUYMNA4BVbDxmNgYYPERcIGOtU&th=1

Vaibhavb1996 31-Mar-19 02:39 PM

Is getting a Vega 56 (powercolor red dragon) for 280 dollars a good deal or should I wait for the Navi cards?

Mike 31-Mar-19 02:44 PM

@Vaibhavb1996 that depends on your patience

$280 for a decent v56 isnt bad

Vaibhavb1996 31-Mar-19 02:48 PM

I plan to build in September. So I have quite some time on my hands.

Mike 31-Mar-19 03:56 PM

then definitely wait until then to buy stuff

or if possible, black friday

Mark 01-Apr-19 07:56 PM

Whew it feels weird to ask on this server, but here goes. Does anyone know any deals, preferably sub or around $300, with 8gb of DDR4 RAM. I'm going to use it as a home server as well as offloading my Minecraft server onto it. Any help is appreciated. I've found a couple, but they all seem to be refurbished machines with DDR3 RAM. I don't even know if what I'm looking for is feasible so I figured I'd ask here.

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Apr-19 08:45 PM

Look into servers in ebay, @Mark

Mark 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

Isn't eBay kinda sus though?

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

ex

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-8-Core-2-5-Server-48GB-RAM-PERC6i-iDRAC6-2x-300GB-SAS/171669620457?epid=219506227&hash=item27f84e86e9:g:DrMAAOSwUM5aIChp

Dell PowerEdge R710 8-Core 2.5" Server 48GB RAM PERC6i iDRAC6 + 2x...

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$250 for 48GB RAM

not rlly

Mark 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

48 ......

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

I've bought bunch of servers for my company and haven't had any problem

Mark 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

whaat the

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

yep

servers are the bomb for RAM

esp when they're so cheap

Mark 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

holy shit i've never known these existed

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

yup

Mark 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

you sure these are trustworthy?

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Apr-19 08:46 PM

b rb

ok back

sry

these are

thsese come with 300gb sas

slap an ssd, put esxi in it and you're good to go

Myst 03-Apr-19 03:18 PM

Hey I just submitted a request for suggestions on reddit and the automod said I might get a faster response here. Is this the right room to discuess it?

Myst 03-Apr-19 04:01 PM

Here's the post https://old.reddit.com/r/suggestapc/comments/b94ikd/usa_small_office_use_500ish/

USA - Small Office use - $500ish

I'm looking to buy a couple of computers for my small business office. My ideal specs are: - 16GB of RAM (could work with 8) - 500GB SSD -...

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-Apr-19 05:44 PM

@Myst something like this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAEYA8HB5998&ignorebbr=1

or an i7 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAEYA8WT0456&ignorebbr=1

Myst 03-Apr-19 07:30 PM

Thanks for the suggestions

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-Apr-19 03:16 PM

Hi Everyone, the weekend is upon us

josh. 05-Apr-19 05:30 PM

what yall think is the best pc on the market for around 800-1100 no rtx

Vaibhavb1996 06-Apr-19 02:42 PM

Hey guys. I was just thinking how we can probably turn this PC building hobby into a side business.. Any suggestions?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-Apr-19 12:39 AM

@Vaibhavb1996 flip computers. take old non-gaming systems and add a gpu and sometimes psu to make them viable for gaming

i think your selling point should be new gpu and new psu, the two main components that have highest failure rate when typically buying a used system

or

there is practically zero machines in the 400-600 dollar range with the big prebuilt companies (edited)

if you can find a way to sell decent machines in that price range, that would be a nice option for people

another avenue is machines designed for productivity -- good CPUs but ok-ish GPUs and lots of RAM for video editing or 3d creation

there are few machines in that realm that are priced fairly

basically, you can just severely undercut but prebuilt companies, and then try to implement a reliability system. it's going to be hard to convince people to buy from some joe-shmo who just started a company

so you have to offer something in return -- reliability and support

without those two increasing the price too much

josh. 09-Apr-19 05:20 PM

how yall feel bout this https://rochester.craigslist.org/sys/d/henrietta-gaming-pc-i7-7700k-gtx-1070/6856425149.html

Gaming PC I7 7700K GTX 1070 and 144hz monitor

No longer have time for this. plays anything you throw at it I7 7700k 16gb ddr4 ram Evga gtx 1070 ftw 750 watt psu Insignia 144hz monitor Razer Black widow Steel series rival mouse

Littlepip 09-Apr-19 05:22 PM

quite the steal

josh. 09-Apr-19 05:23 PM

kinda sketchy

Littlepip 09-Apr-19 05:23 PM

prolly, sounds too good

josh. 09-Apr-19 05:24 PM

ill update u when i get pictures

Mike 09-Apr-19 05:28 PM

@josh. pretty believable honestly

this guy actually knows the value of his (used) hardware

probably gone by now though

💕 コード：002 💕 09-Apr-19 06:56 PM

dis general chit chat @Mark

heh

Mark 09-Apr-19 06:57 PM

e.e lmao

💕 コード：002 💕 09-Apr-19 06:57 PM

who's profile pic

btw

Mark 09-Apr-19 06:57 PM

mine lmao

it's currently something fucked

💕 コード：002 💕 09-Apr-19 06:57 PM

i can't tell

Mark 09-Apr-19 06:58 PM

lmao

💕 コード：002 💕 09-Apr-19 06:58 PM

i still can't tell lmao

just a shy lioness

Mark 09-Apr-19 06:59 PM

yeah well im a fucking dude lmao

i see your point

💕 コード：002 💕 09-Apr-19 06:59 PM

do whatever you wanna do/be online

I enjoy Zero-tzu so I use her everywhere

I've had a 002 Discord avatar for as long as I can remember

I have a 30-40 picture dump of transparent Discord avatars of her

Mark 09-Apr-19 07:00 PM

holy shit lol im impressed

idk man maybe ur just more brave than me lmaoo. I lost a bet so now I gotta have this for a week

💕 コード：002 💕 10-Apr-19 09:03 PM

i did it though

mfw123 12-Apr-19 12:24 AM

is this subreddit related to suggestapc.com

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Apr-19 07:51 AM

Negative. Not sure where you're seeing that, as the website has been labeled as a scam. (!!!) @mfw123

mfw123 12-Apr-19 10:22 AM

ooh ok i did some reddit searching and i think i get it now lol. I saw the site on vancouver craiglist and i just wondered if the subreddit had any relation

💕 コード：002 💕 12-Apr-19 02:22 PM

nope. not affiliated and like I said before. they're a scam.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 13-Apr-19 10:11 AM

good afternoon all, hope everyone is enjoying the saturday so far

💕 コード：002 💕 13-Apr-19 08:28 PM

i sure as fuck am

! ia ia ia ツ 14-Apr-19 03:45 AM

anyone help me out

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 10:27 AM

@! ia ia ia ツ hey

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:15 PM

if any tech savy gentlemen wouldn't mind helping out a stranger, i'm looking to build a gaming pc but keep my current gpu. price range 1000-1200$

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:19 PM

@cornbread in that range you're probably looking at an rtx 2060 + i5 9600K or i7 8700K build

what resolution and refresh rate would you like to play at

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:22 PM

im cool with my curent gtx 970

so i'd like to blast the 1200 on min maxing the rest of the rig

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:23 PM

what are the rest of your specs (edited)

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:23 PM

terrible

my mobo is from over 5 years ago

so nothing can be upgraded

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:23 PM

what is your cpu

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:23 PM

i5-3570k

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:23 PM

gotcha, yeah you need an upgrade

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:24 PM

yeah its painful

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:24 PM

well

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:24 PM

im thinking spend the 1200 on the rest of the rig

and get a top of line gpu on a big sale

like black friday

gtx970 is fine for the time being i think

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:24 PM

one big issue is that prebuilts that don't ship with a gpu in it will likely have a very bad PSU

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:24 PM

not looking for 200 fps with everything maxed

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:24 PM

so, you would probably need to transfer your gpu and your psu

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

ah

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

but at tha t point, you are almost building from scratch

because to swap the psu, you'll probably have to unplug the mobo

and all that

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

i was tghinking building on like ibuypower

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

hmm

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

i can get their bottom tier gpu

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

that is another option that might work

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:25 PM

and get a psu thats sufficient

i just don't know what im shopping for because i don't keep up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

yeah custom order would probably be your best bet

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

ive been looking at benchmarks but i'm not that savvy

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

for 1200 without the gpu you can get basically top of the line

9700K or 9900K even

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

that's waht i want to hear brother

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

+ 16gb 3000mhz ram

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:26 PM

let me see if I can whip up something, i'd suggest you do it to

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:27 PM

yeah im on ibuypower right now

i just don't know where to sacrifice the extra 20$ for an upgrade that to someone with more knowledge would be worth

but to me its exactly the same

on like different brands,ect

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:29 PM

any of their brands will more or less be the same

they are all reputable

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:31 PM

oh and i have good monitors

no need to spend money there

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:35 PM

yeah I can build a 9900K on ibuypower for just over 1200

with tax is comes out to 1280

you could drop to the i7 9700K or even i7 8700K to save a bit

for PSU, upgrade to the 600w thermaltake

free upgrade

for ram, the 16 3000mhz ADATA would be good

gpu, i selected the rx 560 2gb

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:38 PM

someone just showed me logical increments

im learnin

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:38 PM

hmm, you're going to want an SSD drive

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:38 PM

id rather spend a bit more for any kind of significant upgrade

than save some

so ill do the 9900k

i have an ssd atm

samsung ssd 850 evo

250gb

probably dated

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:39 PM

eh it's still not bad really

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:39 PM

yeah i swap what im currently playing on and off of it

to keep it with lots of available space

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:40 PM

a pci-express ssd would be best

for the os

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:41 PM

which case did you choose?

standard ibuypower case?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:42 PM

whatever was default, some azza. the ibuypower cases are probably just fine (edited)

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:42 PM

i don't care about aesthetics

do you think heating will be an issue

i know they try to sell liquid cooling and all that jazz but i never knew if it was necessary

ToTimesTwoIsToo 14-Apr-19 12:44 PM

it's not necessary, even air cooled is fine, but I'd upgrade from the stock cooler though

all cases should offer good airflow

i have to step out for a bit to run an errand, I'll check back in so just leave messages

cornbread 14-Apr-19 12:46 PM

sounds good, thank you for all the help so far

cornbread 14-Apr-19 01:21 PM

AmariBot BOT 14-Apr-19 01:21 PM

@cornbread

cornbread

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cornbread 14-Apr-19 01:21 PM

so that setup on amazon puts me at 1157$

minus the hd/ssd

cause i have those already

and i'll just plug my gtx 970 in as well

then wait for black friday to upgrade to a big boy card and get a 1tb ssd and double the ram

let me know what you think please.

cornbread 14-Apr-19 01:49 PM

also i went with https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B5SVZF7/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 (edited)

that tower over the 760t

josh. 14-Apr-19 02:15 PM

That case is dope

Kryptic 14-Apr-19 06:55 PM

can anyone recommend a good build for ~$800

Kryptic 14-Apr-19 07:07 PM

to be used for light gaming league/csgo/FN and work

Mike 15-Apr-19 07:50 AM

@Kryptic r u building or buying a pc

Kryptic 15-Apr-19 08:18 AM

Prebuilt @Mike

Mike 15-Apr-19 08:18 AM

@Kryptic https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Blaze-Gaming-Computer-PC-Desktop-Ryzen-5-2600-6-Core-3-4-GHz-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1660-Ti-6GB-500G-SSD-8GB-DDR4-AC-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-bit/598791800

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Kryptic 15-Apr-19 09:15 AM

whats the intel equivalent of the ryzen 5 2600

not familiar with amd chips

josh. 15-Apr-19 12:04 PM

Inbetween i7 7700 and i7 7700k

Kryptic 15-Apr-19 12:19 PM

Seems pretty good

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:08 PM

quick question for anyone here who knows

josh. 15-Apr-19 02:41 PM

I7 8700 w/ gtx 1060 or Ryzen 5 2600 w/ 1660ti

@Littlepip

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 02:42 PM

?

1660ti one

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:51 PM

@Littlepip can u help me rq?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 02:51 PM

maybe

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:52 PM

Okay, so I have a computer atm right, and the only decent thing in it is a GTX 1050Ti. I'm planning to get a new PC here within the next week or two. Am I better off to get a prebuilt with top of the line specs, and then transfer my GPU to that computer, or just get a whole new computer as a whole?

@Littlepip

My budget will probably be around $1300

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 02:54 PM

do you have a monitor already

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:54 PM

Yeah, but I'm already getting some new ones here soon as well.

So now, I just need the pc thing figured out.

@Littlepip

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 02:56 PM

mmmm

well

you could always just get a whole new pc and just sell the gpu

1050ti is a good card but games just gonna get more graphically intensive

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:57 PM

Am I better off to get a more well-rounded prebuilt rather than top of the line everything + a GTX 1050Ti?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 02:58 PM

it depends, are you playing at 60hz

or 144hz

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:58 PM

144hz

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 02:58 PM

i'd say youre better off getting a more well rounded pc

the graphics card is the main component for high fps when it comes to gaming

having a i9 9900k with liquid cooling doesnt really mean much with a 1050ti

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 02:59 PM

i see. so a build like this: https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Legacy-Mini-Gaming-Computer-PC-Desktop-Ryzen-7-1700-8-Core-3-0-GHz-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-8GB-500G-SSD-16GB-DDR4-AC-WiFi-Windows-10-Home-64-/540358419?u1=9cd2d8be4b9a11e989cd9ae98ab22c260INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=05253804912169946645&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

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how far off would i be from where i want to be?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:00 PM

that pc right there has only 500GB of space on an ssd

but besides that would be great if everything was working properly

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:00 PM

https://www.walmart.com/ip/CLX-SET-GAMING-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-3-20GHz-8-Core-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-8GB-GDDR5-16GB-DDR4-RAM-1TB-HDD-120GB-SSD-Storage-MS-Windows-10-Home/875106230

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is this one better?

cause it has the hdd and the ssd?

and the cpu is the r7 2700

instead

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:01 PM

well it has more space but that brand isnt really well known

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:01 PM

so between the two, you'd still get the first one?

and then probably get an hdd and install it?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:02 PM

If possible to install one yes

i had a bad experience with a prebuilt from skytech though so i wouldnt reccomend either really

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:02 PM

dang.

im stuck it feels like

lmao

im definitely going to go prebuilt, i just dont have the time to do it on my own.

is there a better option for say 1k?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:03 PM

you mean like a more reliable retailer?

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:04 PM

yeah, but with similiar specs, or specs that will be able to perform at 144fps stabally.

stably

*

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:05 PM

Mm not sure, i built my own and most people who ask about pcs here dont leave feedback on how their pc is running or if they ran into any problems, usually only the people with problems post

i wouldnt want to reccomend someone a pc and have it fuck up on them since i experienced that

could you do like 1400$

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:07 PM

if I wait a couple more weeks, yeah.

probably like 2 more weeks

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:09 PM

i'd go with nzxt bld, they even got a discord where you could get live help

https://www.letsbld.com/bld/step4?price=1000&draft=1951639444

BLD - Custom Gaming PCs by NZXT

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something like this one

er this one https://www.letsbld.com/bld/step4?price=1000&draft=1951639444

BLD - Custom Gaming PCs by NZXT

Get a Professionally Custom Built Gaming PC Fast! Guaranteed FPS or your Money Back. Ships in 48-Hours with Full Warranty. Backed by NZXT

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:10 PM

do you think this build would be able to perform at 144fps stably? with games like fortnite, ow, wow, gta5?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:10 PM

on what, ultra?

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:11 PM

eh, well on fort, i play with custom settings, so the only thing maxed would be, textures and render distance

so id say so on that 1

but like say on ow

it would probably be maxed

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:11 PM

on overwatch for sure 144 fps easily

Check out benchmarks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dDf6cDGJN8

Benchmark

Ryzen 5 2600 vs i5 9600K (RTX 2070)

CPU1: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4.2GHz

CPU1: intel core i5-9600K @ 4.7GHz

GPU: Zotac GeForce RTX 2070 OC

RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16 Go (2x8Go) DDR4 3200 MHz CL...

i always use benchmarks rather than asking people

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:12 PM

out of the two builds you sent me, which ones better? theres very little difference it seems like?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:12 PM

The difference was the 2nd one has faster ram

with amd cpus, faster ram is preffered

improves fps

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:13 PM

i see. oh and whats the intel equivalent to the r7 2600?

i dont exactly know my amd cpus too well

like a 8700k or something?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:14 PM

nah

the intel equivalent for that would be , lemme see

idk that cpu even

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:15 PM

i meant the r5, the one

u had in the build

sorry

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:15 PM

o

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:15 PM

r5 2600 *

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:16 PM

i7 4790k ish

but the ryzen 5 has 2 extra cores

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:16 PM

so will it be able to hold its own

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:16 PM

well you could always go with an intel nzxt build if you want

as for holding its own i guess but

for maximum efficiency not sure what thatd be

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:17 PM

am i just better off with an amd cpu instead at 1400?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:18 PM

oh wait

the i5 9400f just came out i remember

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:18 PM

yeah ive heard about that

good cpu?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:18 PM

Yes, the only downside was that it doesnt have integrated graphics i believe

which doesnt matter

one sec

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:19 PM

okay

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https://www.letsbld.com/bld/step4?price=1000&draft=7168463236

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Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:20 PM

is this build superior to the 2600 build?

i guess it all depends on the cpus cause it seems the same otherwise

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:21 PM

probably by a tiny margin,

miniscule , i just prefer intel myself too

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:22 PM

if i were to link you a build at around this price point, could you tell me ur thoughts ab it?

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:22 PM

yes

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:23 PM

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Trace-928770-DDR4-2666/dp/B07MGHXG67/ref=asc_df_B07MGHXG67/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=320048880417&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=60927665857247934&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005481&hvtargid=pla-647058199860&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=61389685902&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=320048880417&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=60927665857247934&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9005481&hvtargid=pla-647058199860

i think its like 15 bucks more

than the one u sent me

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:24 PM

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-2tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-white/6315148.p?skuId=6315148

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:24 PM

the cpu is better but you get unknown components PSU

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:24 PM

ah, i see.

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

er mostly just psu

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

@Cmk what cpu is in that

bc it just says ryzen 7 processor

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

its a ryzen 7 2700x

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

2700X

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

thats not too bad for 1400 right?

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

not at all

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

no but the reason i reccomend nzxt is because they put in sea sonic PSUs

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:25 PM

my friend got it like a month ago hasn't had one issue with it

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:26 PM

did he get it without the stupid ass warranty?

or did he pay 170 bucks for it

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:26 PM

yeah you don't need to get it

he didn't

plus 2 tb, and a 240gb ssd

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:26 PM

u think this pc would be able to game @ 144fps?

on shit like fort, wow, ow, etc

like i guess

im just hesitant

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:27 PM

ive had those components before

you need to look at benchmarks

for OW yes, 144 easily

fortnite youd have to fiddle a bit if you wanted ultra

just a bit

tylee96 15-Apr-19 03:27 PM

intel equivalent to 2600? i5 8400

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:28 PM

I just asked my friend he says, on high settings on fornite not ultra he gets about 155-165 depending on the fight

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:28 PM

perfect. @Cmk thank you.

that might have to be the one then.

cause on fort, i play with everything off, and then textures, and view distance maxed out

tylee96 15-Apr-19 03:29 PM

max frames are up to gpu, min frames are up to cpu and ram clocks (regardless of CL)

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:29 PM

so i should be good @Cmk

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:29 PM

hope the psu aint garbo

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:29 PM

i kinda do too

thats the only thing ig im worried ab

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:29 PM

no issues within a month is good, but not everyone will get the same

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:30 PM

true... but for the price, it seems like a good option. plus its a 2tb hdd and i also get a 240gb ssd

and a 2700x

and i can oc and stuff as well.

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:30 PM

the rams probably gonna be slow

2666

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:31 PM

damn. yeah, i guess i could always get faster ram if need be.

but @Cmk said his friends getting 150-160 fps with the build as it is

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Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:31 PM

and idek if he oc'd it at all

so that might be what hes getting stock (edited)

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:32 PM

with 2700x i believe ^

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:33 PM

hmm, yeah i might be needing to upgrade ram, but if i play at high, instead of ultra for say a cpl months, it isnt the end of the world

especially bc that experience would be WAYYYY better than what i have now

id probably get 3200mhz

and then once i get that, i should be set id say

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:34 PM

Most pre builts are 2666mhz anyways now a days

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Computer-Trace-92070A-DDR4-2666/dp/B07MG8KLDT/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=amd+7+2700x+rtx+2700&qid=1555367478&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull

heres another one I found i7-8700k same system bascially

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:36 PM

i think i might have to get one of these two that you linked.

id probably just upgrade the ram eventually

and then id be good.

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:36 PM

it's not the biggest concern the ram right now.. you should still get over 144 fps in overwatch and fornite...

in the future 100%

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:37 PM

cool, that seems like a good move then. thank you for all the help man. really appreciate it.

@Littlepip @Cmk

i'll keep the psu in mind

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:37 PM

Alright, also check recent reviews when purchasing

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:38 PM

yeah the amazon one has alot actually

couple people go in details about a few parts

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:39 PM

i'll dive into it this week some more. I still have ~1-2 weeks before buying the pc.

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:39 PM

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rtx+2080+computer&qid=1555367511&s=gateway&sr=8-3#customerReviews

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meant to link this one

actually

links screwed up

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:39 PM

are they basically the same pc, but with 1tb less on the hdd, and a 8700k instead of a 2700x?

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:40 PM

basically the one with the 8700k has more details including the mother board and that it's liquad cooled

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:41 PM

so the better option is probably the intel one?

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:41 PM

plus you get 1 Year Parts & Labor + Free Lifetime Tech Support | Assembled in the U.S.A

which is actually pretty good

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Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:41 PM

incase something goes wrong

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:41 PM

and its from amazon, kinda eases me a bit too, they have a pretty decent return policy.

just incanse ^

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:42 PM

yeah reviews seem pretty good to, some people said the power supply is fine and such

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:42 PM

and it seems like the 8700k does perform a bit better than the 2700x in most scenarios

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:42 PM

yes the i7 8700k will in most scenarios

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:42 PM

i can still oc too

so, i think that thats the best option

atm

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:42 PM

idk what brand it is put the Z370 is not half bad

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:43 PM

i think asus?

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:43 PM

yeah i would go i7-8700k 100 dollars off now to

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:43 PM

or msi

yeah, i think i will tbh

thats the best bet i got.

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:44 PM

if you want to spend an extra 50 bucks

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07J5RPC32/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=rtx%2B2080%2Bcomputer&qid=1555367511&s=gateway&sr=8-3&th=1

just a newer cpu

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:45 PM

8700k vs the 9700k

i wonder if its worth

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvDU7xGHpNo

Testing Games

Intel Core i7 9700k vs i7 8700k Test in 8 Games

Intel Core i7-9700k vs i7-8700k Test in 8 Games Xiaomi Mi Notebook Air 13.3 - (36% OFF) https://goo.gl/2jg81G Games : Assassin's Creed Odyssey Forza Horizon ...

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:45 PM

ill look @ that rn

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:45 PM

the i7 9700 has 2 more cores

about similar perfromance

would be a nice future proof

if possible

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:46 PM

i mean, if im already going over budget

and its only 50 bucks more

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:46 PM

like a game like battlefield would be better on a 9700 bc of more cores

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:46 PM

i prolly will then tbh

just cause, im already going intel, and over budget

so i mean 50 more dollars for like ~15 fps more on most games it seems like

its worth

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:47 PM

i have a 2080 and a i7 8700k rn but my 144hz monitor messed up so now im stuck at 60hz

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:47 PM

lmfao

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:47 PM

rma approved today though

id rather just get my money back though but whatever

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:47 PM

u getting a new 1?

or

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:47 PM

just get a 240hz fuck it

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:48 PM

its going to be repaired or a new one of similar type

also id like a 240hz but no money

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:48 PM

i am waiting on my tax money

then i'm sending it on one

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XF250Q-Cbmiiprx-FREESYNC-Technology/dp/B07G3GRFSZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=240hz&qid=1555368465&s=gateway&sr=8-1

thinking about this one but might spend a extra 100 on a alienware one

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:49 PM

oh dang

i was thinking about

these 144hz

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Msi-Optix-MAG241C-Full-HD-Non-Glare-1ms-1920x1080-144Hz-24-Gaming-Curved-Monitor/701229471?athcpid=701229471&athpgid=athenaItemPage&athcgid=null&athznid=PWVUB&athieid=v0&athstid=CS020&athguid=ed28ee82-ece-16a22a3407f56b&athena=true

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2x

and

1x

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:50 PM

id go with alienware cmk

this is the one i got that ended up messing up https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-XG2401-FreeSync-Advanced-Ergonomics/dp/B01A0ZRR50/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=viewsonic+144hz&qid=1555368621&s=gateway&sr=8-3

picture quality is ugly too

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:50 PM

i got a hp 25x at bestbuy for 150 144hz on sale, and honestly I was impressed pretty good

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:50 PM

ooh i saw that 1. i dont rly like viewsonic

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:50 PM

yeh i dont reccomend it

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:51 PM

i think spending the 10 extra bucks on a brand like msi

is wortgh

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:51 PM

yes

i agree

and nice cmk

Cmk 15-Apr-19 03:51 PM

Off topic but I got a old gtx 1060 6gb used for like 6 months how much you think I can get for it

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 03:54 PM

id try for 200 dollars

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Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 03:54 PM

yea, always start high

Cmk 15-Apr-19 04:15 PM

then probs going to sell my benq 144hz bc it doesn't use display port and my pc needs a display port so its a big L

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 04:59 PM

oh ig i could just google this maybe, but is there any real difference between using a display port isntead of hdmi

it does the same thing and all right lmfao?

prolly sound like an actual dumbass asking that

@Cmk

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 05:07 PM

display port is best

Hitsjake 15-Apr-19 09:27 PM

oh, cool, thanks @Littlepip

💕 コード：002 💕 15-Apr-19 10:33 PM

240hz on 2080ti right?

@Littlepip

DP is best @Hitsjake

always

Littlepip 15-Apr-19 10:41 PM

240hz on 2080ti? wut u mean

preston 16-Apr-19 05:01 AM

Hello all

Do you think buying a used: "iBUYPOWER Elite Gaming Desktop PC Intel i7+ 8700 3.2Ghz, NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 8GB, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB HDD, 16GB Intel Optane Memory, Win 10 Home, WiFi, Element 016iP" for $550 is a good deal?

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Mike 16-Apr-19 10:00 AM

@preston its fine if it's in good condition

will probably want to add an ssd + 8gb of ram

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Preston M 17-Apr-19 07:45 AM

It passed, it was sold to someone else - I thought about needing to upgrade to 16GB of ram

I'm trying to buy my brother a graduation gift -- looking on facebook marketplace for a used PC in the 5-600 range

I have a solid one but I don't wanna spend 1400 for his gift lol

I have a lot of prospective PCs. may post here the specs and price or I can post a link if I can get any input it would be greatly appreciated. Would be willing to tip 5-10 bucks to anyone who can help me decide!

Or gift them nitro, whatever works

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:03 AM

Lemme sees

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:05 AM

ok let me post my prospects

so a general background, getting this as a gift for my brother who graduated. he plays xbox (fortnite mainly) and i want him to experience 140+ fps instead of 30 lol

So first prospect: Coming in at $500 (can prob get for 400)

SPECS AMD Ryzen 5 2400G GTX 1060 6GB 8GB RAM ADATA SU800 128GB SSD 1TB HD CORSAIR 450 Watt

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:07 AM

Mhm

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:08 AM

another 500 model

CPU is an Intel i7 overclocked to 4.1ghz. ADATA 16gb RAM Motherboard is a ASUS Rampage IV. Case is a sturdy and efficient Corsair 600T Corsair HX1050I Power Supply 240gb SSD Hard Drive 1TB Hard Drive Corsair water-cooler for CPU ASUS DVD optical drive Kingwin fan controller EVGA GTX 680 x2 in an SLI configuration

A 750 dollar model

:B450 motherboard Ryzen 5 2600 with cooler 16 gb ddr4 ram 3000mhz 500 w power supply Red cable extensions 120gb ssd 500gb hdd Gtx 1070ti DIY PC case 5 rgb fans with controller 2 rgb strips with controller windows 10 pro

out of the 50 i've seen, those are the four that I thought were worth looking into. I'm getting more information on 3 others later today

then this one I offered 650 on just to see: GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz Memory: 16 GB RAM (15.94 GB RAM usable) Current resolution: 1920 x 1080, 60Hz Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10 Home im asking 800 obo

sorry I should have formatted all this before posting..

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:11 AM

That 1080 one would be pretty killer, 2nd best option is that computer with the gtx 1070ti, it even has 3000mhz ram which is needed for ryzen pcs

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:12 AM

what would be considered a good deal on the 1080 one?

And those are the two more expensive ones

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:12 AM

800 would be a steal itself

Let alone 600

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:12 AM

Dang okay, maybe i'll offer 700 then.

Is the 1070ti w/ ryzen worth 750?

Was hoping to find him a 1060 or so for around 500

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:13 AM

I'd try 700, it doesn't have a lot of space

It's not overpriced though

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:14 AM

The 1080 for 800 has been listed for a week now

Not very good photos to be honest

That is the 1070ti

Much cleaner photos at least lol

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:15 AM

Lol

Yeah

Oh it's 16gb of ram too not 8 nice

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:16 AM

I'm gonna offer him 700. I'll post the other ones as they reply. I will likely take the others ones aside from the 1070ti and 1080 off the table as you did not reccomend them much

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:17 AM

Yeah the first One for 400 is a good buy but if you want 140 + fps

Would need to pay a bit more

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:17 AM

What kinda fps you think for

GPU: GeForce GTX 1080 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz Memory: 16 GB RAM (15.94 GB RAM usable) Current resolution: 1920 x 1080, 60Hz Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10 Home im asking 800 obo

oops

wrong one

this one:

AMD Ryzen 5 2400G GTX 1060 6GB 8GB RAM ADATA SU800 128GB SSD 1TB HD CORSAIR 450 Watt

Wonder why this guy is selling his 1070ti, looks really new. Says he still has boxes for parts. Wonder if they are defective

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:19 AM

On high detail, for the 1060 one 120 fps average

Preston M 17-Apr-19 08:20 AM

Not half bad

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 08:20 AM

110 to 140 fps based off a benchmark

Socialgamerguys 17-Apr-19 12:05 PM

Anyone help me out here? Friend is wanting to sell this PC for 1k to me. Just wanting to see if I should do it or not.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDdKjy

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:09 PM

No

The graphics card is sub par, old, overpriced

Equivalent pricing to (edited)

For the same price is an rtx 2070

Which hugely outperforms that old card

Friends scamming lul (edited)

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:23 PM

if i just want to stream plex and build wordpress sites whats a good budget but speedy build?

i have an all in one that i stupidly bought because i thought it looked cool but its the slowest POS ive ever had

like the fan won't shut up when im running just word LOL

and it lags when i type on discord

JKL 17-Apr-19 12:30 PM

any recommendations on Hard drives? I want to just puke games into it and never think about deleting so like 6tb+ lul

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:32 PM

maybe like 350-500 usd rick

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0792GSD6N/?tag=pcpapi-20

also something with 7200 rpm jkl

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:34 PM

@Littlepip yeah, i want two monitors as well... i hear go 1080

thanks btw

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1VK-005B-000E1&ignorebbr=1

that'll be more than good right?

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:38 PM

are u playing games? also whats plex

also yeah no less than 1080 monitor

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:40 PM

no zero games, just want fast multi tab browsing

its just a video streaming service but my shit HP all in one can handle it

so i cant imagine some nicer rig wouldnt scream with it

it lets you stream videos from your hard drives to chromecasts, etc...

that pc prolly is way more than I need than. id probably be fine with a biz class computer

i dont need all the lights lol

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:42 PM

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M92p-Business-Computer/dp/B07HCN2RHM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=desktop%2Bwith%2Bssd&qid=1555530106&s=electronics&sr=1-3&th=1 this one cost less and would do the same i believe

not final reccomendation, just looking

The graphics card in that skytech pc wont benefit you

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:46 PM

yeah thanks, youre the man btw lol

haha its so ugly i love it

things a beast tho

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-M92p-Business-Computer/dp/B076VQPXGX/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=desktop%2Bwith%2Bssd&qid=1555530106&s=electronics&sr=1-3&th=1

lose the ram tho

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:48 PM

that one has 8 less gb of ram and uses a hard drive

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:48 PM

yeah gg

you right

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:48 PM

more space but slower write speeds

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:48 PM

naw i want the sdd

100%

good point

man

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:49 PM

yeh ssds make shit pcs feel fast

lol

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:49 PM

LOL

man ive got a macair from seriously like summer 2013

still works pretty well

ssd

crazy

works better than my HP, amazing

WAY better

hang on let me find you the processor in that pos

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:51 PM

i wouldnt reccomend anything without an ssd

or atleast 7200 rpm hdd

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:53 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/268801667133079552/567868874570203146/screenshot-www.cpubenchmark.net-2019.04.16-20-27-25.png?width=268&height=301

thats the processor i have now

lmfao

bro

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:55 PM

mm its so tiny

cant really see

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 12:56 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/268801667133079552/567868874570203146/screenshot-www.cpubenchmark.net-2019.04.16-20-27-25.png?width=514&height=578

amd a8 7410

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 12:59 PM

ah

RickRossBoss 17-Apr-19 01:00 PM

lol a mess

i wouldnt even gift the hp to anyone

it would be cruel

Littlepip 17-Apr-19 01:02 PM

eternaldream 18-Apr-19 03:44 AM

Hey all. I have been saving up money to buy a new PC. I have around $800 to play around with. I would like a PC that is pre-built, and can play most modern games. I don't need anything too crazy. The most intensive games I would want to play are strategy games like Total War. Right now my PC plays most 2d games okay, like Stardew Valley. There are some 2D games that lag though, such as Starbound. Mainly because it has so much going on. Is this the right place to ask for a suggestion?

Littlepip 18-Apr-19 06:30 AM

Yeh

dinoman 18-Apr-19 05:20 PM

@Brajany that pc u posted in #recommended-deals is a r6 2400g instead of 2600

Cmk 18-Apr-19 06:00 PM

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16883230417

AmariBot BOT 18-Apr-19 06:00 PM

@Cmk

Cmk

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Cmk 18-Apr-19 06:01 PM

Decent deal here

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:22 PM

Hey all, wondering if you could help. The desktop that I bought ~12 years ago is starting to BSOD pretty regularly, so I think it's time to replace it. I'm a programmer and all of that work is done on a (Linux) laptop, but I like to keep a Windows tower PC at home.

Oops, didn't mean to end the message there. More continuing.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:25 PM

so how will you be using the pc?

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:25 PM

I want a desktop with a good amount of ram (at least 8, but preferably 12-16), a SSD, and a few PCI slots. I recently bought a graphics card to put in this old PC for casual gaming, so I would love to re-use that one. But from my brief research (Dell), it looks like ample PCI room is no longer in fashion? I guess I could bite the bullet and get a PC with a new video card, but that would be annoying. Any suggestions?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:25 PM

what gpu will you be adding

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:25 PM

Basically for anything I need windows for (streaming, gaming, office, a little bit of music recording). Nothing insane

Let me check

It's a "CORN NVIDIA GeForce GTX750". $60- I guess not a big deal to eat. It was the cheapest one I could find that supported DX11, which was needed for a game I was playing

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:28 PM

i see

why do you need a few pci slots?

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:29 PM

I guess I don't. Just a gut reaction from building PCs in the past (~15 years ago, lol)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:29 PM

certainly all will come with at least 1 for the gpu

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:30 PM

Right. I guess there's nothing else I would need. I remember needing a PCI slot for having USB2.0 but that's not really an issue anymore

I was looking at this Dell Inspiron: https://deals.dell.com/en-us/productdetail/29ua

Inspiron Desktop

Desktop PC & Laptop Deals. Save big on Alienware, XPS & Inspiron computers, Gaming Monitors, TVs & Electronics. Easy Financing. FREE DELIVERY

.

Seems like the right price, look, features, whatever. It would probably take my graphics card? And a different one if I decided to upgrade?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:33 PM

the gtx 750 will probably work in that just fine

most newer gpus are going to require a better PSU than whatever ships with that dell

except maybe the gtx 1050

or 1050 ti

which will require about a 300 w psu

there is actually this deal going on right now https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1VK-005B-000E1

it's actually a solid gaming pc, if that interests you

the rx 580 will play basically anything

cpu is also strong. only downfall is the 8gb of ram, but that could be bumped up to 16 with a relatively cheap upgrade

also 500 gb is kind of low storage space, so you'd probably have to add hdd as well

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:39 PM

What is a PSU? Power supply?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:39 PM

yep

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:39 PM

That looks like a good deal, but the case is a little silly. I prefer the black/beige towers of old

Can power supplies be upgraded?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:40 PM

yes they can, but sometimes they aren't easy to swap out without basically removing everything first

e.g. the motherboard

not terribly hard, but some people might not want to do that

and sadly any prebuilt that lacks a dedicated gpu will likely have a weak psu, to save costs (edited)

adding a gtx 750 will be fine though as that card was designed to be low ppower

but more powerful gpus of course will require more on the order of 400-500 w psu, instead of 300

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:43 PM

Ahhh, I gotcha

That helps a lot. You're doing God's work

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:44 PM

but even the gtx 1050 ti is a very sizable upgrade to the gtx 750

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3162vs3649

UserBenchmark: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti vs 750

Based on 372,034 user benchmarks for the Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti and the GTX 750, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 611 GPUs.

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:44 PM

Any manufacturers you recommend? I recently bought a Dell XPS15 laptop because it supports linux well, so I checked out Dell, but I don't know where else to look

I guess just keep an eye on newegg?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:44 PM

and the gtx 1050ti would likely work with most prebuilts, without changing the psu

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:44 PM

Cool

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:44 PM

yeah NE is a good bet

acer, hp, lenovo

all will more or less be on par with dell

I actually think that dell you linked is a decent deal

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:45 PM

Cool. Thanks

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:45 PM

strong cpu, plenty of ram

fair price

dontbeweird 18-Apr-19 07:45 PM

Yep, that's what I was thinking. I think I'll go with it

Way cheaper than shopping for a laptop

Thanks a lot, have a good night

ToTimesTwoIsToo 18-Apr-19 07:46 PM

np!

josh. 18-Apr-19 08:34 PM

1660ti and ryzen 5 2600 good for 1080p 144hz

On low - medium

nick682 19-Apr-19 05:59 AM

good morning

Cmk 19-Apr-19 05:40 PM

just picked up metro for 20 bucks on steamgameswap kinda hyped to try

💕 コード：002 💕 19-Apr-19 05:45 PM

eh

i didnt like ther previous title (edited)

ToTimesTwoIsToo 19-Apr-19 07:07 PM

Hope everyone is having a Good Friday

Hitsjake 19-Apr-19 07:27 PM

@Cmk lmk how it is tbh

LuisSlide 20-Apr-19 10:12 PM

Is anyone on ? I need help with my pc

Littlepip 20-Apr-19 10:16 PM

wat wrong

LuisSlide 20-Apr-19 11:11 PM

My pc wont start up

Everything seems connected as manual and still nothing turns on

Littlepip 20-Apr-19 11:24 PM

did you press the button on the psu, theres like a little switch on psus to turn them off and on

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 07:24 AM

Does anyone know where to find good deals in Finland?

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 07:35 AM

If anyone has a recommendation. Please let me onow

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 05:30 PM

@Snowyyy what's your budget?

something like this would be good https://www.newegg.com/global/fi-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227889

not sure what shipping prices are (edited)

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 08:55 PM

100€extra for shipping. I might as well build my own lol

AmariBot BOT 21-Apr-19 08:55 PM

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Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 08:57 PM

That's too overkill for me. I'm looking for like a Ryzen 5 2600 or i3 8100 paired with either the 1060 3-6 GB or a 4gb RX 980 or RX 970 8 GB

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 08:59 PM

you mean rx 580

?

here is an rx 570 4gb pc https://www.newegg.com/global/fi-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883794768

tihs one is also solid https://www.newegg.com/global/fi-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102560

@Snowyyy

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:01 PM

Lol. Yeah

How much is that in euros?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:02 PM

it lists a vat inclusive price, does that apply to you?

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:03 PM

Not exactly too sure

It's Canadian isn't it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:03 PM

newegg is a bit screwy, change to finland in the top right

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:05 PM

Got it

For that amount of money. I could build my own set up m..

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:07 PM

i mean building is almost always the cheapest optoin

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:07 PM

A bit over the budget. The components in that second one is only worth 650USD tops

Well I am having a hard time on what to cheap out on

The total price is 740 for my build

Ryzen 5 2600. RX 580 4gb

16 GB ram

DDR 4

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:09 PM

I'd cut the ram to 1x8 and maybe drop to the rx 570 4gb if it saves money

adding ram is easy

also, for ryzen get 2666mhz at least

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:09 PM

1 tb Seagate HDD. 125gb Kingston SSD

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:09 PM

you might also consider dropping to the r5 1600 (edited)

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:10 PM

It only saves 10 euros

Both the GPU you said and the cpu

Cause MSI currently have a discount

Does that setup I said make sense for the price?

And what would the retail price be for such a setup

I also have a DVD drive. SD card.

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:11 PM

not sure because pc parts are generally cheaper in the usa. Probably a normal price range in eu

i mean, if you really need to cut, you could go for the 2200g

and upgrade once ryzen 3000 comes out

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:12 PM

How much performance difference is that?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:12 PM

really depends on the game. For pre-2018 games, the 2200g should be pretty decent

only recently 4 core CPUs take a nosedive

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:13 PM

Is that better than the Intel I3 8100?

Cause I can get those two for the same price

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:14 PM

the i3 8100 is probably better in games

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:15 PM

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Search2?q=Ryzen%202200. That's the site I'm buying from

Tuotehaku - Jimms.fi

Tuotehaku

I think I can cut down even more on the case

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:16 PM

yeah case can be cheap really

the only thing I wouldn't skimp on is the power supply, try to get something branded

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:17 PM

I can get the Corsair

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:17 PM

yeah corsair would be good

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:17 PM

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/127207/spc159/silentiumpc-brutus-m10-pure-black-atx-miditornikotelo-musta is that any good for air flow

SilentiumPC Brutus M10 Pure Black, ATX-miditornikotelo, musta - 24...

Tekniset tiedot : Mitat (KxPxL) : 415 x 361 x 193 mm Paino : 2,7 kg Yhteensopivuus : ATX / mATX / mITX Virtalähde : ATX standardi (ei sisälly) Laajennuspaikat : 7 Laitepaikat : - Ulkoiset: 1 x 5

I need to buy an extra fan

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:20 PM

the rear fan is only 80mm is seems

this one has 120mm rear fan

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/127208/spc143/silentiumpc-regnum-rg1-pure-black-atx-miditornikotelo-musta

SilentiumPC Regnum RG1 Pure Black, ATX-miditornikotelo, musta - 29...

Tekniset tiedot : Mitat (KxPxL) : 447 x 450 x 208 mm Paino : 4,4 kg Yhteensopivuus : ATX / mATX Virtalähde : ATX standardi (ei sisälly) Laajennuspaikat : 7 Laitepaikat : - Ulkoiset: 2 x 5.25" &n

120 mm rear fan should provide adequate airflow (edited)

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:20 PM

Need the SD card reader though

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:21 PM

gotcha

honestly it should probably be ok

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:22 PM

The one I sent?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:22 PM

yeah the 80mm rear fan one

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:22 PM

Yeah that would save me some money too

How many rpm should I look for in a fan?

What does it mean by PWM cobtrolled

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:25 PM

usually that means you can plug it into the motherboard and then a motherboard can automatically adjust the speed based on internal temps

probably not necessary

a single speed fan should work just fine

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:26 PM

K

PWM PST and rev? This stuff is confusing

I'm guessing 400 RPM is slow

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:30 PM

yeah probably

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:30 PM

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/124350/spc030/silentiumpc-mistral-120-v2-laitetuuletin-musta

SilentiumPC Mistral 120 v2 -laitetuuletin, musta - 5,90€

Mistral on suositun Zephyr -sarjan pikkuveli ja eroaa siitä kierrosnopeutensa ja melutasonsa osalta. Mistral -sarja tarjoaa korkeampaa suorituskykyä ja soveltuu paremmin matalan lämpötilan perässä "in

How's that?

I'll also get a filter for it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:31 PM

yeah should work just fine, fans don't really need to be fancy at all

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:32 PM

Great. Also, can you find any cheap DDR 4 memory. I can't find any under 90€

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:32 PM

you want 1x8 or 2x8

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/147835/bls2k8g4d26bfsbk/crucial-16gb-2-x-8gb-ballistix-sport-lt-gray-ddr4-2666-mhz-cl16-1_20v

Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) Ballistix Sport LT Gray, DDR4 2666 MHz, CL1...

Tekniset tiedot : Kapasiteetti : 16GB (2 x 8GB) Muistityyppi : DDR4 DIMM 288-pin Nopeus : 2666 MHz (PC4-21300) Latenssi : CL16 (16-18-18) Jännite : 1.2V Ominaisuudet : Puskuroimaton, Non-ECC

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:34 PM

The speed on that is a bit slow isn't it?

The 2666 MHZ

I have the same version in my cart

But a 3000 MHZ obe

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:37 PM

there isn't going to be a big difference between 2666 and 3000. if the prices are pretty similar, go for 3000

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:38 PM

K. And if the motherboard has 4 ram slots. All can be utilised right!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:38 PM

yep of course

which mobo btw

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:38 PM

Got it. I'll link it

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Show/143425/b450-pro4/asrock-b450-pro4-atx-emolevy

ASRock B450 Pro4, ATX-emolevy - 99,00€

Tekniset tiedot : Prosessorituki : AMD AM4-kanta Tukee AMD Ryzen -prosessoreja: Pinnacle Ridge / Summit Ridge / Raven Ridge Piirisarja : AMD B450 Muistituki : Dual Channel DDR4 -muistitek

It's pretty standered

Really popular

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:40 PM

yes I'd recommend that one

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:40 PM

Oh can't use the i3 8100 on that

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:41 PM

yeah at this point you'll need to decide if you want an intel platform or amd platform

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:41 PM

So when it says duo channel.

Does it literally nean duo channel

Like 2 ram channels

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:42 PM

dual channel is a configuration if you have more 1 ram stick

allows for faster bandwidth

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:42 PM

Memory Support : Dual Channel DDR4 Memory Technology 4 x DDR4 DIMM, up to 64GB supports: - AMD Ryzen (Pinnacle Ridge): DDR4 3200+ (OC) / 2933/2667/2400/2133 - AMD Ryzen (Summit Ridge): DDR4 3200+ (OC) / 2933 (OC) / 2667/2400/2133 - AMD Ryzen (Raven Ridge): DDR4 3200+ (OC) / 2933 (OC) / 2667/2400/2133

Any idea what that's about?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:44 PM

those are just the officially supported RAM speeds

for the cpu

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:44 PM

Oh

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:44 PM

anything above 2666mhz is labeled OC

which means you'll have to enable XMP profile in BIOS to run the higher speed

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:45 PM

Is the 5 2600 compatible with those? It's Smmit Ridge right

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:45 PM

so when you buy a 3000mhz ram stick, by default it will probably run in 2400 or 2666 mhz speed, but if you enable XMP, you activate the higher speed

yeah r5 2600 will be compatible with any ram speed really (edited)

you can even go higher than 3200, but not really a point to do so unless you are trying to break world records or something crazy lol

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:47 PM

K. I will probably set the ram as overclocked after O get everything set up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:47 PM

yeah the mobo should autodetect it right away, but you can verify the speed using cpu-z or speccy program (edited)

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:48 PM

Also. How can I perma oc the GPU? I know how to hack it but it voids the warranty

Multiplyer for the cpu for overclock right?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:49 PM

typically overclock using software like msi afterburner, I wouldn't change the firmware or anything if that 's what you mean

for the gpu

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:49 PM

Oh

Is it safe to overclock the CPU?

AmariBot BOT 21-Apr-19 09:49 PM

@Snowyyy

Snowyyy

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ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:50 PM

it's pretty safe to overclock these days

you can achieve modest overclocks pretty easily following generic guides

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:50 PM

Alright, how's Linux btw

I need a software

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:52 PM

for gaming?

you'll probably want windows (edited)

the linux gaming library is quite small at the moment

you can use wine to run some windows games under linux, and it can work sometimes

but generally life will be easier if you just run native win10

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:53 PM

Yikes

100€ for Windows 10 lmao

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:54 PM

btw you can install win10 for free

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:54 PM

Doesn't a bunch of stuff get locked?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:54 PM

yeah :/

like background and personal settings

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:54 PM

How many and how will it effect me?

Personal settings as in creating an account?

No password?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:56 PM

i htink you'll be able to create password and username

from what i'm reading, it's really just the wallpaper

and themes/colors

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:57 PM

Is 550W enough for the power.

Ahh I don't mind that then

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:57 PM

yeah 550W is plenty

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:57 PM

Also. What wires do I need for that build

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:58 PM

wires?

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:58 PM

The Mobo only comes with 2x data 3

Sata

And two screws

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:58 PM

you might need more sata, depending on which devices you plug in

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 09:59 PM

Don't I need more? Wires to connect to the PSU

A HDD and SSD. So I'll fully utilize it

Don't I also need another connection for my drives

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 09:59 PM

yeah so the hdd and ssd will use 2 sata

then each drive will use one

the psu comes with power cables that iwll power on everything

a few go to the mobo, and 1 goes to each device (ssd, hdd, drives)

so power-wise, the psu has everything

you have a bluray?

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:01 PM

A DVD yeah

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:01 PM

yeah you just need sata for that

so maybe buy 1 extra

if the mobo ships with 2

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:02 PM

Don't you need another connection for the hDD

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:02 PM

yeah 1 for hdd, 1 for ssd, and 1 for dvd

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:02 PM

Like 1 seta and the other long connector

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:02 PM

yes those will come from the psu

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:02 PM

No I mean like HDD. In order for it to work. Doesn't it need two wires to connect it lol

Oh alright

So that one?

The red one

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:03 PM

yeah so the top red/black cable is from the psu

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:03 PM

Oh that's great. I need one extra data. Anything else?

Ram check. No wires lol. GPU checked. Two drives checked.

The fan come with screws right

And connection to mobo

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:04 PM

yeah fan will come with those

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:05 PM

Sounds good. One extra sata.

Btw. That picture I sent above. Is that an SSD or HDD

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:05 PM

that should be it really, can't think of anything. some people buy thermal paste, but you're probably fine with whatever ships with the cpu

that pic was hdd

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:06 PM

Fucking old shit system lol. My system thinks it is an SSd and now it won't turn on

Woops phone out of charge. Laters, and thanks

ToTimesTwoIsToo 21-Apr-19 10:07 PM

np, good luck let us know how the build goes!

Snowyyy 21-Apr-19 10:14 PM

For sure. Don't want to mess the CPU bit lol. 300€ total

Snowyyy 22-Apr-19 03:10 AM

Will leaving my system on unactivated still offer me updated drives and security?

Trashpanda 22-Apr-19 05:59 AM

Whats up my peeps

BarackOBrahmaa 22-Apr-19 11:53 AM

Can somebody help me with some info? I’m new to all this

Charlieofsheen 22-Apr-19 05:32 PM

Can someone tell me what cables i need to hook this up? Its a 2012 hdd and i think sata but i dont know much and couldnt find the cable

Mike 22-Apr-19 11:12 PM

@Charlieofsheen sata data cable that goes into the motherboard + sata power cable which comes from power supply

💕 コード：002 💕 23-Apr-19 07:09 AM

You're better off buying a new HDD/SSD for whatever price that HDD is.

I recently found a Kingston SSD, $100 for 1TB, good cache for OS/Storage use.

There's also Samsung Evo's, $50 for 500GB @Charlieofsheen

josh. 23-Apr-19 06:16 PM

https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/23/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650/

NVIDIA's GTX 1650 GPU delivers modern gaming for $149

NVIDIA has unveiled the GeForce GTX 1650, a GPU that should offer a big boost in performance to gamers on a budget.

Fused 23-Apr-19 07:32 PM

Hello everyone! I've been looking at some pre built companies recently trying to decide where to purchase from I've been looking at Ironside computers and Xidax. I was trying to do some research on them but couldn't find that much about them. Has anyone done business with them? How were they and how well were the PCs?

ggg 26-Apr-19 07:35 AM

Will rtx 2070 bottleneck E3 1270 v2 4 core 8 thread

Mike 26-Apr-19 05:13 PM

@ggg depends on what game

but generally yes

JKL 26-Apr-19 10:55 PM

is seagate HDDs any good?

was thinking bout buying a 6gb barracuda, (is non pro one any good)

6 TB*

JKL 26-Apr-19 11:40 PM

nvm, just ended up buying the Barracuda pro 4TB 7200rpm

ToTimesTwoIsToo 27-Apr-19 10:12 PM

@JKL seagate is good

Cheeseman 29-Apr-19 07:58 AM

aye

dinoman 29-Apr-19 10:05 AM

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-2tb-hard-drive-240gb-solid-state-drive-white/6329758.p?skuId=6329758

crazy good deal imo

800 for r7 2700, 16gb rx580

prolly part of the flash sale that ends today so cop while u can

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-Apr-19 07:11 PM

@dinoman great deal, thanks!

JKL 30-Apr-19 01:11 AM

new hdd feelsgud

Littlepip 30-Apr-19 04:02 AM

💕 コード：002 💕 30-Apr-19 07:38 AM

@JKL best feeling ever

What HDD?

JKL 30-Apr-19 08:01 AM

Seagate pro

MindlessRanger 30-Apr-19 10:36 AM

hi

is this discord suitable for laptop advices

they count as PCs i suppose

Dyno BOT 30-Apr-19 10:54 AM

Greetings. It seems you're making an inquiry about a laptop. /r/SuggestAPC is able to help you out, but you're better off checking out the /r/SuggestALaptop Discord server (and sub) for more information. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/ZfsZYVz

Littlepip 30-Apr-19 10:54 AM

.sal

💕 コード：002 💕 30-Apr-19 02:30 PM

@MindlessRanger

JKL 01-May-19 04:22 AM

Barfing games into new HDD lul

josh. 01-May-19 03:28 PM

i only play 2 games lmaoo

WJD2 01-May-19 04:33 PM

does anyone have experience buying refurbished desktop from amazon? I posted a question on prebuilt-questions if anyone wouldnt mind taking a look at it

💕 コード：002 💕 01-May-19 04:44 PM

Is it from Amazon/Amazon Warehouse?

@WJD2

WJD2 01-May-19 04:54 PM

it can be, I honestly didnt know the difference, i know there are vendors and then amazon

💕 コード：002 💕 01-May-19 04:54 PM

Go to "see all buying options" and send us a picture.

WJD2 01-May-19 04:54 PM

alright i'll browse, thank you!

💕 コード：002 💕 01-May-19 04:55 PM

You're welcome. Feel free to mention me.

WJD2 01-May-19 05:10 PM

@💕 コード：002 💕 This is an example of something I have found on amazon, vending from amazon warehouse: https://www.amazon.com/HP-570-P017C-Z5M32AAR-ABA-Refurbished/dp/B0725PBBLM/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=1556755418&sr=1-1 There are so many different options on amazon for refurbished. Like I said in the prebuilt-question section, I would be working mostly with word, excel and sometimes corel painter 2016. The only game I would ever even install on it is Warcraft 3, but I don't game very much. I wouldn't do very much to the pc, maybe add an ssd or a part here and there down the road. Should I look elsewhere from amazon if I only want to spend around 400$? Thank you for your assistance!

💕 コード：002 💕 01-May-19 05:13 PM

Alright, for the price budget I honestly cannot help you out, you might as well ask @josh. or @Littlepip for help as they're much experienced than me. What I can say is: This looks like a relatively good PC for general tasking, my recommendation would be to put an SSD on it for it's OS, and if you'd like, switch over to a 7k RPM HDD. It says this is running on an AMD Radeon R7 2GB, which I believe should be enough for Warcraft 3 at least on lowest settings. So you got that going. My main point here, is: Amazon Warehouse or Amazon will always cover your ass, specially if you got prime. So feel free to purchase from any of those two because you'll be protected. I've bought used from Amazon with their fulfilment and I have no worries whatsoever. @WJD2

WJD2 01-May-19 05:22 PM

Thank you @💕 コード：002 💕 for the input. I will keep researching different options in and around this budget area. I use a laptop from 2015 that is starting to overheat along with some other issues, I am just trying to plan ahead. Performance is never an issue for me and having a large family, I wanted to keep my price point small for a personal computer. I will keep this discord forum active throughout the next few months as I select an option that would work best for me. I truly appreciate you taking the time to give me feedback. Thank you.

💕 コード：002 💕 01-May-19 05:27 PM

No problem! Make sure to hit me up!

Jimmy 01-May-19 05:43 PM

Is this server only for prebuilts?

💕 コード：002 💕 01-May-19 06:53 PM

Prebuilts. What kinda help are you looking for? @Jimmy

Jimmy 02-May-19 02:25 AM

Oh, im not looking for help, was gonna help if it was for building your own as well

Nurah 02-May-19 06:46 AM

Hey, i don't know if i'm in the right place to ask for some suggestion for a PC ?

JKL 02-May-19 12:37 PM

idk, the discord's name is SuggestaPC so maybe

Jimmy 02-May-19 12:38 PM

Lol

RatskyWatsky 02-May-19 03:06 PM

are velcro ties safe to use inside a pc for cable management? will it create static/electric discharge when peeling open?

josh. 02-May-19 03:21 PM

if u use them with caution you shouldnt have to worry about shorts

if you fiddle with you rig a lot id reccomennd twitst ties

but yeah they are safe

RatskyWatsky 02-May-19 03:22 PM

okay thanks

josh. 02-May-19 03:22 PM

yup

RatskyWatsky 02-May-19 03:22 PM

any specific brand/kind of twist ties you'd recommend?

josh. 02-May-19 03:23 PM

just go to the dollar store and get 100 for a dollar

RatskyWatsky 02-May-19 03:24 PM

ok!

Deleted User 02-May-19 06:17 PM

Hello, i'm new here. I have a question for you all, does the pre-built criteria go for branded computers as well? (HP, Lenvovo, Dell, etc.)

jimmyjom 02-May-19 11:37 PM

Hey guys sorry if this is the wrong thread for this but I'm looking to purchase a desktop and would really appreciate some advice... So yeahhh my price range is about <$800 (CAD), I'm looking for something that can handle what's listed below but I also kinda want something that wont implode after 4 years. Realistically I would mostly use the PC for watching youtube and netflix lmao, but I also like to do photo editing, audio production and video editing on occasion. I don't play new games but I like running emulators of retro games like Super Mario World, Pokemon, etc... I should probably also mention I'm a tab whore so I could have 20 tabs open at once haha I've been using a Lenovo laptop for the last 5 years to do all of that stuff and while it's served me well it's dying of old age (5 human years is like 70 in laptop years). I have so many files on it, I backed up most of them on an external hard-drive so I could move them to a new system and I think it's time to get things going on that. I'd appreciate any and all recommendations and advice on what to get because I really don't know much about hardware and just want something that's worth the money I've saved, I'm sure you guys get what I mean. Also this isn't super important but if it's a PC I could get at a physical store like Best Buy or Walmart that would be ideal because Idk if I can wait for it to ship here before my laptop commits seppuku and while I do have most files on my external hd I'll be bored af without a pc lol... :/

JKL 03-May-19 03:06 AM

ToTimesTwoIsToo 03-May-19 07:40 PM

@jimmyjom here are some decent optoins

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230369&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883165430&ignorebbr=1

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1VK-0020-00235&ignorebbr=1

8gb of ram is a bit limiting but should be fine for now. Adding ram is easy and fairly cheap, you can buy a 1x8 stick for ~40 bucks and install it in less than 10 minutes

i think the first link is probably your best bet

Snowyyy 05-May-19 12:00 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo hey dude. I built the system

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-May-19 09:45 AM

@Snowyyy beautiful

the 2600 + rx 580?

Snowyyy 05-May-19 09:51 AM

It's the i5 7600k + rx580 + 16 GB DDR4 Ram

@ToTimesTwoIsToo ^

I managed to find one used. And got the board and the i5 7600k for 160€

ToTimesTwoIsToo 05-May-19 09:55 AM

@Snowyyy nice, good cpu + gpu combo!

Snowyyy 05-May-19 10:07 AM

yeah, when my GPU runs at 100% in most games, I only get 70% or so on the CPU

I also OC my CPU to 4.66 GHz

💕 コード：002 💕 05-May-19 11:04 PM

Next step is a better case/cable management! Usually the first time it's rough but afterwards you just get better. :D

WaterBottle 06-May-19 12:27 PM

Why did i only get an announcement of this fiscord in SAL now lmao

Guru 07-May-19 08:03 PM

Hey guys, im fixing up an old prebuilt. whats a decent cheap card? im thinking about a 960. its better then a 1-50 apparently. so any ideas/? 65$> Under 65usd. ty! (ebay bids are ok! used are great too. ty

ToTimesTwoIsToo 07-May-19 08:12 PM

@Guru 960 would be a good option (edited)

maybe an r9 380

Guru 07-May-19 09:05 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo awesome! good one for 59.50 w/ coupons. arrives saturday i think. cool!

JKL 08-May-19 04:00 AM

oh god i remember I could barely run 15 frames on my laptop

💕 コード：002 💕 08-May-19 07:20 AM

aaaah bioshock

i have memories of this game when i was very young

very, very young

Yambro 10-May-19 08:02 AM

Is this a good prebuilt for the price? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienware-aurora-r7-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-1tb-hard-drive-intel-optane-memory-epic-silver/6155310.p?skuId=6155310

ToTimesTwoIsToo 10-May-19 09:33 AM

@Yambro I don't think so.

for gaming I'd go with this https://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-WA065i-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Intel-i5-9400F-16GB-DDAR4-2666Memory-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2060-6GB-240GB-SSD-1TB-Hard-Drive-Wi-Fi-RGB-Windows-10-Hom/215908208

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better gpu, the i5 9400 will perform basically on par with the i7 8700 in games (edited)

if you want an i7 cpu, this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230437&Description=rtx%202060%20desktop&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=rtx_2060_desktop-_-83-230-437-_-Product

Yambro 10-May-19 12:29 PM

Is there one from bestbuy you can recommend? I just have a lot of points from bestbuy I’d like to use to get a discount on. I appreciate your help @ToTimesTwoIsToo

Cmk 10-May-19 03:11 PM

@Yambro https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-series-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070-1tb-solid-state-drive-black/6333311.p?skuId=6333311

Mozambique 10-May-19 09:18 PM

Is anyone on that can help me with a pc problem connecting my Xbox controller to computer?

JKL 10-May-19 10:53 PM

i really can't see the difference between ray trace on or off in tomb raider zz

0x4261736d616c 11-May-19 05:04 AM

Where’s the ON and OFF screenshots?

There’s always one noticeable difference... the FPS

WaterBottle 11-May-19 08:49 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo those prices seem too good to be true

speedwizard106 11-May-19 12:46 PM

How good of a deal is this? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230417

josh. 11-May-19 08:36 PM

@speedwizard106 amazing deal

Maxwell9021 13-May-19 05:39 PM

can i put my desktop on its side as long as the glass part is showing?

Guru 13-May-19 07:52 PM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo here's the r9 380 u recommended!

JKL 14-May-19 03:03 AM

finally downloaded my whole steam library

still got 1.7 TB left on my barracuda

Mig 14-May-19 04:24 PM

Hi everyone, can I use an ethernet cable on this PC? https://www.walmart.com/ip/SkyTech-Shadow-Gaming-Computer-PC-Desktop-Ryzen-3-1300X-4-Core-3-5GHz-Radeon-RX-580-4G-1TB-HDD-8GB-DDR4-AC-WiFi-24X-DVD-ROM-Windows-10-Home-64-bit/792830001

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Cmk 14-May-19 04:29 PM

yes

Mig 14-May-19 04:36 PM

Thank u!

Cmk 14-May-19 04:37 PM

@Mig For that PC btw 100% would recommended throwing in a SSD at somepoint will make a big diffrence

Mig 14-May-19 04:38 PM

Sorry I don't know anything about PCs, what is that and what difference does it make with the PC?

(edited)

Cmk 14-May-19 04:42 PM

It would make loading times much quicker, and just overall make things faster, doesn't affect performance but is a god add

Mig 14-May-19 04:42 PM

Alright good to know, thank you so much

Sorry I keep asking questions but do you know a website or a good YouTube video that would help explain these things to me?

I dont know anything about computers

I always end up asking my friends for help

Cmk 14-May-19 05:05 PM

@Mig what games you plan on playing?

Mig 14-May-19 05:08 PM

Fortnite and GTA V

@Cmk

Cmk 14-May-19 05:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMKoc1Lt5M

For Gamers

RX 580 4GB | R3 (1200 vs 2200G vs 1300X) vs I3 8100 | Tested 15 Ga...

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he is a video bascially showing you what kind of performance you can expect with the 1300x and rx 580

JKL 14-May-19 07:56 PM

Lol wtf cyberpowerpc keeps giving me free stuff in the mail lol

Guru 15-May-19 07:13 AM

Hey guys, need help. I installed a r9 380 in an old cyberpowerpc series C. Isn't turning on. Help!

Mig 15-May-19 09:29 AM

@Cmk thank u!

JKL 15-May-19 12:31 PM

wtf 28 fps on 1080p on rtx2070/i9-9900k

something wrong with evil within 2?

TheRealHendrix79 15-May-19 12:55 PM

is this the right chat for asking about questions if I'm trying to decide between a few different PCs?

JKL 15-May-19 01:31 PM

sure

💕 コード：002 💕 15-May-19 02:06 PM

@Guru what PSU?

can't install a turbo on a shitty 4cyl if you don't upgrade engine/pipes first lol

🅱eet 15-May-19 05:12 PM

going to need some help on my pc

Kryptic 16-May-19 10:53 AM

does there exist a website where i can add computer parts and it displays what fps i can expect with the config?

💕 コード：002 💕 16-May-19 10:59 AM

userbenchmark does that, @Kryptic

Kryptic 16-May-19 11:00 AM

perfect thank you

Aeeshia 16-May-19 11:02 AM

test

Wateven 16-May-19 11:12 AM

I posted in #pre-built but now it’s all deleted and I can’t post anything there. Is there an issue with my permissions or was there something I did wrong?

#prebuilt-questions

💕 コード：002 💕 16-May-19 11:18 AM

You should be able to see the room now.

Wateven 16-May-19 11:20 AM

@💕 コード：002 💕 I still don’t see anything. It says “welcome to the beginning of the chat”.

💕 コード：002 💕 16-May-19 11:21 AM

try now

Wateven 16-May-19 11:21 AM

It works now— thank you

Apparently I fucked something up too, huh? Lol

💕 コード：002 💕 16-May-19 11:22 AM

For some reason when you joined you had no role

Ah, wait, now I know what happened

Wasn't your fault

Wateven 16-May-19 11:22 AM

I typed 1 after it prompted me to! Lol

Thanks for fixing it, anyway ^_^

userpay 16-May-19 11:37 AM

But yea I'll probably be looking at deals seriously next week as I'm planning on ordering a pc after finals and there should be some good stuff in the week leading up to Memorial Day. I'm just wary of ibuypower/cyberpower and similar boutiques as I haven't heard much good about their quality control. Maingear is pretty much the only stock parts boutique that I've heard nothing but good on.

userpay 16-May-19 11:51 AM

Pity Amazon's monthly payments isn't over a longer period. At least then if I do have an issue I know their cust service is great xD

JKL 18-May-19 07:21 PM

who needs a heater if you've got an i9

catsu 21-May-19 05:48 PM

Anyone got any recommendations for a prebuilt in the UK £600-800?

For gaming

Willing to go up to £900 if it's really worth it

TXCoci 23-May-19 07:26 AM

Hi I'm a teenager. I was looking for a gaming pre-built around 700-800€. Up to 850€ only if worth it

ToTimesTwoIsToo 23-May-19 09:48 AM

@TXCoci country?

TXCoci 23-May-19 10:12 AM

Italy @ToTimesTwoIsToo

spoonfedkyle 24-May-19 12:05 PM

Hi all. Am currently shopping for a new laptop. Looking for as light weight as possible with the following features. Good battery life, 2+ usb ports, decent webcam, dvd player is a +, 500+Gb storage. This is USA price range is up to $1100.

But cheaper while still hitting features is a major +

Cmk 24-May-19 03:32 PM

.sal

Dyno BOT 24-May-19 03:32 PM

Greetings. It seems you're making an inquiry about a laptop. /r/SuggestAPC is able to help you out, but you're better off checking out the /r/SuggestALaptop Discord server (and sub) for more information. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/ZfsZYVz

Cmk 24-May-19 03:32 PM

@spoonfedkyle

spoonfedkyle 24-May-19 03:34 PM

ty

Yt Vroeq 25-May-19 03:07 AM

Hey my budget is very tight but I need a starter pc and monitor monthly pay would be great if possible . 400 dollars 600 if it has to be

Guru 25-May-19 08:43 AM

@ToTimesTwoIsToo happy cake day!

ToTimesTwoIsToo 25-May-19 10:43 AM

@Guru thanks! didn't notice xD

Cheeseman 25-May-19 11:50 AM

aye

Daddy Dab Dab 26-May-19 02:07 AM

Oh k

Snowyyy 26-May-19 03:52 AM

@spoonfedkyle#4018 are you still looking for a laptop?

DeepskyScorpion 26-May-19 08:38 AM

so, computex amd lifestream in 11 hours

do i stay up late

or wake up early

catsu 26-May-19 10:54 AM

Not exactly a computer question but would you recommend a ssd or HDD as an external back up?

I'm mostly concerned with which would be easier to recover files from if it somehow fails one day

ToTimesTwoIsToo 26-May-19 07:04 PM

@catsu SSD has least chance of failure

but probably not worth the cost for just backup storage

I'd go for HDD

jpeg.jpg 27-May-19 12:47 AM

ssd is good for using in a moving vehicle. hard drives arent as durable when shaken because it's a disk. would get an ssd if you wanna carry it around and use while not on a table. otherwise, get hdd.

Daddy Dab Dab 27-May-19 12:50 AM

Well, just broke the $100 mark in my bank account (saving to buy a pc). A tenth of the way there.

jpeg.jpg 27-May-19 12:51 AM

nice

Daddy Dab Dab 27-May-19 12:53 AM

I'll see you guys in a year, when I have the money

jpeg.jpg 27-May-19 12:54 AM

you could get a decent gaming pc for 700, though 100 is the sweet spot

Daddy Dab Dab 27-May-19 12:57 AM

@jpeg.jpg sorry i meant $1000 AUD

jpeg.jpg 27-May-19 01:28 AM

Oh

Get used lmao

Maxwell9021 27-May-19 01:53 AM

Hey can anyone really knowledgeable in building PCs help me out? I was looking at this and I wanted another opinion on the PC. https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/vGgXsY/magnificent-intel-gamingstreaming-build

jpeg.jpg 27-May-19 02:31 AM

9700k lmao

Wait like 2 months

Zen 2 bby

That build got outdated 4 hours ago

Also that’s a pretty shitty build

Daddy Dab Dab 27-May-19 03:24 AM

Ok

Sphynx 28-May-19 05:48 AM

I can't for the life of me find a laptop with low power internals but good design. anyone got any ideas?

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-May-19 05:10 PM

.sal

Dyno BOT 28-May-19 05:10 PM

Greetings. It seems you're making an inquiry about a laptop. /r/SuggestAPC is able to help you out, but you're better off checking out the /r/SuggestALaptop Discord server (and sub) for more information. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/ZfsZYVz

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-May-19 05:10 PM

@Sphynx

*WHEEZE* 28-May-19 05:29 PM

What is the best website to buy prebuilt/ customizable PCs

Cmk 28-May-19 05:36 PM

@*WHEEZE* what's your budget?

*WHEEZE* 28-May-19 05:36 PM

1500$ give or take, i checked doghouse sytems but they were too pricey

@Cmk

Cmk 28-May-19 05:38 PM

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gaming-RDY-VIBG202

Gaming RDY VIBG202: iBUYPOWER®

Gaming RDY VIBG202 [Intel® Core™ i7-9700K Processor (8x 3.60GHz/12MB L3 Cache)]

this may work

*WHEEZE* 28-May-19 05:38 PM

@Cmk is the water cooling system all in one?

I fear replacing liquid

Cmk 28-May-19 05:40 PM

it's like once a year if that, depends how your fluid looks

it's not that hard tbh

*WHEEZE* 28-May-19 05:41 PM

@Cmk alright, for how many years do you think it will run efficiently

Cmk 28-May-19 05:42 PM

A good few definitely, all modern parts...

*WHEEZE* 28-May-19 05:43 PM

@Cmk Thanks for the help bruv

jpeg.jpg 29-May-19 01:10 AM

@*WHEEZE* that is an aio

JKL 29-May-19 02:03 AM

wtf free hotspot so fast today

JKL 29-May-19 02:48 AM

for like an hour.. now xfinity back doing the throttle zz

Sad Siren 29-May-19 03:10 PM

Hi folks. Because where I live isn't ideal for getting stuff shipped here, I'm wanting to get either a prebuilt pc or build one with parts I can buy locally. I want to using it for gaming/streaming/video editing. I just worry that if I try to build one myself, the stores won't happen to have the parts I had in mind, or if I go prebuilt, they might not be as good in quality.

The two main stores I could buy from would be Fry's Electronics and Best Buy.

I didn't know if anyone here could give me some advice so I'd feel more confident about going to buy stuff

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-May-19 04:21 PM

@Sad Siren you should be able to put together a complete build from fry's

i would avoid BB though for individual parts

usually overpriced

also BB has pretty decent deals from time to time

and they should be able to ship to any store

if you don't trust shipping to your house

when you say streaming you mean streaming your games on twitch/yt?

Sad Siren 29-May-19 04:26 PM

I live in an apartment building in a not so great neighborhood, hence not wanting to ship stuff here. And yes, streaming to Twitch

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-May-19 04:26 PM

for streaming you'll want a decent CPU, like an i7 8700 or ryzen 7

if you plan to play at 1080p, you can get an rx 580, gtx 1060, gtx 1660 or gtx 1660 ti

do you have a budget in mind?

Sad Siren 29-May-19 04:28 PM

I was hoping between $1000 to $1500

This was a tentative parts list I made but it looks like the specific Frys stores near me don't have some of the parts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dmmbmq

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-May-19 04:32 PM

yeah looks, good. you might not be able to get an exact parts list at frys, but you can substitute compatible parts with what's avaialbe

I'd really try to get a ryzen 7 cpu though if you are going to do streaming

maybe drop the ram to 16gb if that saves money

you can also drop the psu to around 500-600 watts if that saves money

Sad Siren 29-May-19 04:34 PM

I saw this prebuilt as an option, but I worried that the SSD might be too small, and I'm not as familiar with how reliable the brand's computers are https://www.frys.com/product/9896655

iBuyPower Gaming PC with AMD Ryzen 7 Processor - 16GB Memory - 2TB...

iBuyPower Gaming PC with AMD Ryzen 7 Processor - 16GB Memory - 2TB Hard Drive + 240GB SSD - GeForce RTVX 2060 Graphics - 16 Color RGB Lighted Case - Windows 10

ToTimesTwoIsToo 29-May-19 04:35 PM

256 gb is plenty to store the OS and your main apps

ibuypower is pretty reputable

the price is fair, not a great deal but not bad either

Sad Siren 29-May-19 04:42 PM

Okay, thank you for the help

JKL 29-May-19 10:48 PM

ibuypower skimps out on parts a lot

Sprite 30-May-19 04:39 AM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HGFJJ8

would this be a nice set up

ToTimesTwoIsToo 30-May-19 08:45 AM

@Sprite I think it's a good build overall

if you are really serious about streaming, maybe opt for a ryzen 7

but even the 2600x should be able to stream with pretty good quality

OnlyMechanics 30-May-19 09:36 PM

Hey guys I just bought a desktop from new egg and it was this one : https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-gem-ali243/p/N82E16883102556 I bought it for a total of $1433 including tax, is it a good deal or could I get somehting better? I was thinking of retuning it

Moggy 31-May-19 05:37 AM

Hi guys and gals could someone tell me if this is worth the money ... Fierce Gaming PC Bundle - Intel Core i7 7700 4.2GHz, NVIDIA GTX 1650 4GB, 16GB 2400MHz, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 Installed, Keyboard and Mouse, 21.5-Inch Monitor, Gaming Headset (APACHE 449548) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B071Z4CKNS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_m4r8Cb8MM54K5

Cmk 31-May-19 11:23 AM

@Moggy i think you can do better

Jesse 31-May-19 09:18 PM

Is the 1650 better than the 1070? I'm not sure how the numbering works

ToTimesTwoIsToo 31-May-19 09:18 PM

@Jesse no https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1650/3609vs4039

UserBenchmark: Nvidia GTX 1070 vs 1650

Based on 564,089 user benchmarks for the Nvidia GTX 1070 and the GTX 1650, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 613 GPUs.

not even close

Jesse 31-May-19 09:19 PM

oh okay

ToTimesTwoIsToo 31-May-19 09:20 PM

however the gtx 1660 ti is pretty close

Jesse 31-May-19 09:21 PM

So is the 20 series not all newer/better than the 10 series?

I need a YouTube tier list lmao

ToTimesTwoIsToo 31-May-19 09:23 PM

2000 series is the newest nvidia architecture

it's their RTX brand of products

however, they removed some the features of the turing cards and made a couple of gtx 16xx cards

the naming scheme sucks

and is confusing

and no, not all rtx 2000 series cards are better than gtx 1000 series cards

gtx 1080 is better than rtx 2060, for example

the only for sure way to compare across generations is to just look at benchmarks

titan > rtx 2080 ti > rtx 2080 >= gtx 1080 ti > gtx 1080 >= rtx 2070 > gtx 1070 ti > rtx 2060 > gtx 1070 >= gtx 1660 ti > gtx 1660 > gtx 1060 > gtx 1650 > gtx 1050

something like that

Jesse 31-May-19 10:20 PM

So if I wanted to get a somewhat future proof PC, should I get something a bit less powerful from the 10 series and plan to upgrade in a few years, or should I just go all in and get a computer with a 2080 or a 1080 ti? I'm not really sure what the best graphics card is when it comes to value/$

JKL 31-May-19 11:57 PM

New corsair rgb strip n commander fans lel

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Elisis 01-Jun-19 01:19 AM

@Jesse Futureproofing doesn't exist.

Used 1080 ti will most definitely best best value.

Jesse 01-Jun-19 01:45 AM

ok, well I just meant it would last longer before I would need to upgrade

JKL 01-Jun-19 01:45 AM

depends how relevant ray tracing will be

Jesse 01-Jun-19 01:46 AM

If I'm not buying used, do the higher end graphics cards provide enough of a boost to warrant the price spike (often double the price of something just a little older)

JKL 01-Jun-19 01:46 AM

Jesse 01-Jun-19 01:50 AM

okay nevermind

would you mind helping me out in #prebuilt-questions ?

Jesse 01-Jun-19 02:23 AM

I literally need like one person to tell me it's okay to buy this refurbished PC with an Intel i7 8700k and a GTX 1080 because I can't go ahead and buy this as someone who doesn't have a clue what they're doing it's $1450 CAD which is $1070 USD If someone would look at it on newegg here and give me some insight I would give them a hug https://www.newegg.ca/acer-predator-orion-5000-po5-610-er11/p/N82E16883101754

💕 コード：002 💕 01-Jun-19 02:26 AM

Be a little bit patient and you should get an answer. America is sleeping atm

@Jesse

Jesse 01-Jun-19 02:39 AM

Yeah, I understand I'm okay to wait

userpay 01-Jun-19 07:38 AM

You could also wait for news about the new AMD gpus to come out

Jesse 01-Jun-19 12:00 PM

any input about the particular computer though

userpay 01-Jun-19 12:04 PM

I mean it looks good to me considering it's got a 1080. I've seen very very few prebuilts with a x080 for $1000-$1100 USD

The others might have more experience though

JKL 01-Jun-19 12:56 PM

U could get a rtx2070 for that price

userpay 01-Jun-19 01:02 PM

the 1080 is a little more powerful though isnt it? Doesnt have the fancy ray tracing stuff but at the same time not many games take advantage of it

Jesse 01-Jun-19 02:06 PM

@JKL So you're saying there's better, non-refurbished PCs for that price? I'm not sure where to find those.

Jesse 01-Jun-19 02:45 PM

I think I'm just going to go ahead and buy it because nothing I'm seeing for this price range has specs like this

JKL 01-Jun-19 04:38 PM

Rtx2070 stronger than 1080 but weaker than 1080ti

Look at recommended deals on this discord

Theres a few good 1000 range good deals

c4tty 01-Jun-19 06:40 PM

Did you buy? I want that too

c4tty 01-Jun-19 08:19 PM

@Jesse lemme know if you went for it lol

Jesse 01-Jun-19 10:14 PM

I haven't yet

@JKL could you point me to one that's comparable?

pandarides4130 01-Jun-19 10:26 PM

Hey y’all just joined the r/ and the autobot let me know about the discord and I thought I’d drop by and ask here cause, why not. https://letgo.onelink.me/O2PG/7ad770cb what do y’all think? He said it has an asus z97i plus. I currently have an HP p7-1234 with a gtx 1050ti which made life A LOT better so I think this would be a really nice upgrade for the price? My main issue is, would asking for a screenshot of the specs prevent against fraud? Also it’s a 5 year old CPU, how much more life should I expect from it? I mean, my 6 year old APU which suffered from 8 months of BF4 hasn’t quit. But ah. What do y’all think? Thanks in advance. E: talked them down to 460 but without the two SSDs and mouse and keyboard(I’ve got a 560gb SSD and a 1TB HD, keyboard is full of crumbs but works fine and picking up a naga trinity for $20 this week) so I keep the one M.2 drive assuming it’s a NVMe, and hopefully enjoy my new rig?

E+: not NVMe, so asking to trade it for one of the 240gb SSDs (edited)

Jesse 02-Jun-19 02:49 AM

I've just realized I don't have a lot of graphically intense games to play once I buy this pc

I don't play a lot of games because I don't have the hardware for it

Daddy Dab Dab 02-Jun-19 04:19 AM

@Jesse same lol

boyerjr 02-Jun-19 10:30 AM

Hi guys

New to all of this

Gleee 02-Jun-19 10:34 AM

Any suggestions for a 500 pre built?

c4tty 02-Jun-19 12:40 PM

I went for it @Jesse will report once received.

Jesse 02-Jun-19 12:45 PM

I think it's a good choice

but before I typed that I had a sneaking suspicion that I fucked myself

because as a result of me asking questions about it, you purchased it, and because it's refurbished, it's out of stock

userpay 02-Jun-19 12:59 PM

xD

Jesse 02-Jun-19 11:31 PM

yeah it seems funny until you have to look at the real financial consequences of my hesitation

userpay 02-Jun-19 11:39 PM

Well who knows, maybe you dodged a bullet

Jesse 03-Jun-19 02:59 AM

I doubt it Newegg isn't going to sell complete garbage plus it had a warranty where else am I going to get a GTX 1080 and an i7 8700k for $1500 CAD or $1100 USD?

catsu 03-Jun-19 08:49 AM

Hey, just got a new pc and want to install a fan. It requires a screwdriver though. I'm guessing I wanna make sure the screwdriver I use isn't magnetic? I don't wanna damage the mobo somehow

Or is that not something I need to worry about?

babayaygo 03-Jun-19 09:48 AM

I was hoping to get some advice choosing between 2 Surface Pro Models that are on sale at local stores. Both are the 2017 models. Option 1 is the Microsoft Surface Pro 5 i5 8GB 256GB Tablet + Keyboard + Dock Bundle @ 1399.99. Option 2 is the Microsoft Surface Pro Tablet - 12.3" - 8GB - Intel Core i7 (7th Gen) - 256GB SSD @ 1164 When you make it an apples to apples comparision of just the base Surface it works out to $1020 for the i5 vs $1199.99 for the i7. All prices are Canadian. I have a work horse as a desktop PC and will be using the Surface as a secondary and mobile workstation for spreadsheets and office mostly.

JKL 03-Jun-19 11:04 PM

yes

💕 コード：002 💕 03-Jun-19 11:06 PM

yes

GSM 03-Jun-19 11:45 PM

hey guys

i’m extremely tired of hand me down laptops that can barely run league at a stable 15 fps, but i’m not too in the knowhow for hardware

so i’m gonna find a job just so i can get a much better computer, either desktop or laptop

are there any suggestions for top of the line prebuilts

Jesse 04-Jun-19 12:17 AM

@catsu how is the PC coming along?

Cmk 04-Jun-19 08:13 AM

@GSM depends what you want to play

GSM 04-Jun-19 12:03 PM

I want to be able to play more modern games without my computer screaming or outright crashing

Like my computer currently barely handles League at 15 FPS at the lowest settings possible

Cmk 04-Jun-19 12:36 PM

@GSM what would you like to spend ?

GSM 04-Jun-19 12:37 PM

I’m looking for things around the $1k range but I can go higher

Davichi 04-Jun-19 12:50 PM

@Cmk Hey, how would you rate this https://www.amazon.co.uk/CyberpowerPC-Luxe-2080Ti-Gaming-PC/dp/B077VQL649/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 when comparing it to the price

Cmk 04-Jun-19 01:11 PM

@Davichi that's good it's just complete overkill.. his he planning on playing 4k?

Davichi 04-Jun-19 01:13 PM

Not sure tbh I just know he play's fps games and is constantly lowering everything to get as high frames as possible. I also want it kind of future proof so If it's overkill but will last a decent amount of years that'd be fine.

I was told to go to https://www.awd-it.co.uk/ as they have some of the best prebuilts in the uk apparently but again I'm not really sure what I'm after. Just want the best possible rig for the price range of around 2k

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Davichi 04-Jun-19 01:36 PM

@Cmk if you get time could you check awd for what you think would be the most viable for my price range ? this is something i threw together not really sure how it compares to the amazon pc i linked before https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186620595830652928/585566700943179778/FireShot_Capture_003_-_AWD_I7-9700K_Overclocked_5.0GHz_Asus_Maximus_XI_Hero_RTX_2080_8GB_Evo__-_www..png sorry for spamming, I bought myself a pc a couple years ago and totally screwed it up so not wanting to make the same mistake this time.

Cmk 04-Jun-19 02:18 PM

@Davichi change the ram to 16 and higher MHz

Davichi 04-Jun-19 03:16 PM

@Cmk ty

Mike 04-Jun-19 05:48 PM

@Davichi no ssd?

Davichi 04-Jun-19 05:50 PM

@Mike thinking of going with the amazon one I linked over the awd one. Seems better but both have an ssd

Mike 04-Jun-19 05:51 PM

what is this for

gaming?

Ebravs 04-Jun-19 05:52 PM

Hello, looking for a laptop at around 1k. Not too sure where to look. Any suggestions?

Davichi 04-Jun-19 05:53 PM

Yh Mike

Mike 04-Jun-19 05:56 PM

@Davichi whats your monitor and what games

,sal @Ebravs

Davichi 04-Jun-19 05:57 PM

Benq 144hz and multiple games from all different types fps-mmo. Usually popping on new releases etc to try out

Mike 04-Jun-19 05:57 PM

.sal @Ebravs

dead bot

@Davichi 1080p?

Davichi 04-Jun-19 05:57 PM

Wanting a high spec pc to last a couple years at least as doubt will be replacing

Ebravs 04-Jun-19 05:59 PM

Not too concerned about playing new releases, as I have an xbox but my current laptop has trouble with even some indie games. I just want something that's reliable for the price

Mike 04-Jun-19 06:00 PM

@Ebravs i honestly have a difficult time rec'ing anything other than the walmart OP 15/17+ laptops lol

too good value

oos tho

Davichi 04-Jun-19 06:01 PM

https://www.very.co.uk/benq-zowie-xl2411p-24-inch-fhd-144hz-1ms-response-e-sports-gaming-monitor/1600278356.prd?sku=sku20747812&cm_mmc=google-_-PLA+-+Generic-_-All-_-PRODUCT_GROUP_p44086517251_[*AdID*]&utm_campaign=Generic_Electricals+-+BenQ+-+Gaming+Monitors&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_term=PRODUCT_GROUP&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrdjnBRDXARIsAEcE5Ynx4C1Oi8K65t_flnEwkRIlpZLJtODwM-S9KeVl44CXujGNmYw6CH8aAthgEALw_wcB. This is the minister I think he has can confirm tonorrow

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Mike 04-Jun-19 06:01 PM

that's a 1080p 144hz monitor

u want 1440p 144hz if ur getting a 2080 ti

2060-2070 is enough for 1080p 144hz

and definitely wouldnt need a 9900k

Davichi 04-Jun-19 06:02 PM

Would a 9900 be any benefit at all over a 2060-2070 even with a 1080? And what would the price difference be.

Mike 04-Jun-19 06:05 PM

9900k is the cpu

2060/2070 are gpus

Davichi 04-Jun-19 06:07 PM

Oh sorry I meant having a 9900 while using a 2080 ti would be no benefit on a 1080p and only on a 1440p?

Sorry not a pc person lol

Mike 04-Jun-19 06:08 PM

@Davichi it will be more powerful than having a 2060/2070 even at 1080p

its just that it's not worth buying a 2080ti + 9900k for 1080p

Davichi 04-Jun-19 06:09 PM

Ah yeah OK but I'd rather have it set up strong and in the future just have to upgrade a monitor than mess around inside the pc itself.

So if he was to upgrade the monitor in the future then that amazon pc would be worth getting for the price listed?

Mike 04-Jun-19 06:26 PM

@Davichi still not really imo, but if he wanted "the best pc that he wont have to upgrade in a while", i guess (edited)

whats his current setup

Davichi 04-Jun-19 06:29 PM

https://gyazo.com/6468665ba43961338ae4dd4dba91652d

Gyazo

And yh something he won't need to upgrade for years to come

Mike 04-Jun-19 06:33 PM

if he wants to play a 1080p 144hz all he needs to do is stick a rtx 2060 / 2070 in there

if he buys a 9900k+2080ti, it will remain overkill for 1080p for like 2+ years

Elisis 04-Jun-19 07:21 PM

Might

It might remain overkill.

Cmk 04-Jun-19 08:29 PM

@Davichi or get a 240hz instead of a 144

Mike 04-Jun-19 09:18 PM

240hz is a waste of money for most

144 to 240 is unnoticeable for most people, 1080p to 1440p is though (edited)

Elisis 05-Jun-19 02:44 AM

Yep.

And the majority of 240hz monitors are TN, anyway.

So.

Cmk 05-Jun-19 04:15 AM

@Mike depends on the games if he is a competitive guy playing games like league, cs,r6, etc ifs so worth

has1 05-Jun-19 06:21 AM

hey all

i have a question regarding the new amd cpus, is there not going to be a G version with an iGPU?

Mike 05-Jun-19 07:18 AM

@has1 amd released the apus a few months later for zen+, so they probably will for zen2 as well (edited)

has1 05-Jun-19 07:22 AM

@Mike so are those for desktop CPUs?

Mike 05-Jun-19 07:23 AM

yea

has1 05-Jun-19 07:26 AM

are those expected to be a big improvement? Could you compare that to a mx150?

and would it still be worth it to get something like an RX 570?

Mike 05-Jun-19 07:29 AM

the current 2200g/2400g igpu is already comparable to the mx150

no one knows how they will actually perform yet, or if they will even release

has1 05-Jun-19 07:50 AM

can i reuse my existing ram without slowing anything down?

I have some old 2 x 4 gb ram

Mike 05-Jun-19 08:02 AM

what specs

mhz?

has1 05-Jun-19 08:22 AM

no idea

its really old, like 8 years

but dont you have like 4 ram slots? Couldn't i just put in my old 2 ones and then 2 new ones and use them together?

userpay 05-Jun-19 08:26 AM

you could, bt you'd probably be better off getting new ones

has1 05-Jun-19 08:36 AM

why

userpay 05-Jun-19 08:37 AM

because it may have low clock speeds compared to what you can get today

has1 05-Jun-19 08:40 AM

but the computer always ran fine with that ram

so why would i throw them away? Can't i just add them to it?

Cmk 05-Jun-19 08:48 AM

Download cpuz

Tells you your system specs

Mike 05-Jun-19 08:55 AM

@has1 no

it wont even work

ram from 8+ years ago is at most ddr3

u need ddr4 ram to work with any modern system

has1 05-Jun-19 09:20 AM

@Mike its definitely ddr 3

@Cmk it doesnt boot anymore

no idea why

Tacojoeblow 06-Jun-19 08:00 AM

Hello. I'm looking for a little advice and would appreciate any thoughts: Got a son into game design and graphic design. He's 16 and needs a computer for school anyway. We've been looking at Surfaces and Apples but, they're not cheap, obviously. I'd like to also get him an Adobe Cloud subscription. I think this means an i5, SSD, 8gig min ram, Graphics card with 4(?)gigs? However, I don't really know what's too much or not enough. Are there any recommendations beyond a Surface or Apple that will allow him to do some decent work with Illustrator/Photoshop and run Steam reasonably well that aren't so expensive? Many thanks in advance for any advice.

jitn 07-Jun-19 12:52 PM

Hi I found this desktop in my budget range ($1000-1400 CAD). My friends say itll play pretty much any current game at ultra settings no problem. I would like to get into playing Witcher and Battlefield type games. Intel Core i5 9th Gen 9400F (2.90GHz) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB 8GB DDR4 2666MHz 1TB HDD 240GB SSD Windows 10 Home 64-bit VR Ready https://www.newegg.ca/abs-computer-technologies-versa-ali248/p/N82E16883102561 Is this pretty much a great deal as they say? (edited)

💕 コード：002 💕 07-Jun-19 02:05 PM

Seems like a nice deal. Might be wrong.

1

tacosauce77 07-Jun-19 06:54 PM

That's a solid deal

1

ToTimesTwoIsToo 08-Jun-19 10:26 AM

hi everyone, hope everyone is enjoying the weekend!

Infitalias00 08-Jun-19 05:29 PM

@Davichi take a look and see if there are any skytech pcs currently with similar specs for lower price, I got 9900k/2080ti, bigger/better SSD and HDD, and 3200 Gskill ram instead of the lower generic stuff in those 2 you were looking at, and for a quite a bit lower £1726.85/$2200, all the components good and quality and build correctly and working great as well and good customer service, wasnt during any sales event, they just seem to put up good deals from time to time

@ToTimesTwoIsToo it's going, didnt love dark phoenix last night lol, and just moved into new place that only has ceiling fans/a window AC unit instead of previous with central AC, temps jumped up like 20c+ just from place not being as cool

(edited)

walkthroughell 09-Jun-19 03:32 AM

Good Morning Everyone, Hoping you can help me with some suggestions for a Budget PC for my grandma lol. Her budget is $500 USD and she just needs it for basic Excel work, email, watching videos, etc.

Yog 09-Jun-19 06:27 AM

Hello

Cmk 09-Jun-19 07:16 AM

The Xbox game pass looks crazy for 5 dollars can’t wait to see the Microsoft conference later

TheLegend27 09-Jun-19 03:16 PM

Hey everyone, looking for a portable gaming desktop. I travel in the EU a lot, need something small enough to carry in a bag. My budget is €1300, is this possible?

JKL 09-Jun-19 11:44 PM

cyberpoonk actually John Wik the Movi?

💕 コード：002 💕 10-Jun-19 02:18 PM

hahaha

this made me chuckle irl

Trashpanda 11-Jun-19 11:55 AM

Hi guys

I made a blog post on how to build a PC, would anyone care to give feed back on it ?

Cmk 11-Jun-19 12:07 PM

Link ? @Trashpanda

xvColton 11-Jun-19 04:07 PM

Hey anyone help??

Cmk 11-Jun-19 04:08 PM

yes

xvColton 11-Jun-19 04:12 PM

Im looking for a prebuilt at like 800-900 usd. Ive seen some@people suggest nzxt build as opposed@to ibp or cyberpower but i dont know why

Just tryna find the best buy

Cmk 11-Jun-19 04:14 PM

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883227889?Description=gaming%20desktop&cm_re=gaming_desktop-_-83-227-889-_-Product

If you can go over budget a bit this is a good buy

xvColton 11-Jun-19 04:35 PM

Any reason why its better than an ibp build?

Or just better parts vs price

xvColton 11-Jun-19 04:52 PM

One of the reviews says its a sketchy mobo and gpu? Is he just wrong

Cmk 11-Jun-19 04:57 PM

in most prebuilts there is a sketchy mobo, but the GPU is better then the 580

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gaming-RDY-CYWIBG201

Gaming-RDY-CYWIBG201: iBUYPOWER®

Custom Gaming PC - 10 years of award-winning Custom Gaming Computers & gaming laptops custom-built for PC gamers. Build the best Gaming PC at iBUYPOWER

You can select the 2600 or 9400f is you plan on just gaming go with the 9400f if you want to stream, mabye do some editing go with the 2600

but the first link I sent you the GPU is way better then the 580

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbzp4x41qso

For Gamers

R5 2600 | GTX 1660TI vs RTX 2060 vs RX 590 vs RX 580 | Tested 15 G...

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here is the gpus side by side

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:08 PM

I ordered that exact pc from newegg a week ago

Newegg canada didnt have a sale for it tho

Solid pc - i think the reviews on newegg for it are scammy tho

Something like 50/57 reviews are not from verified purchasees

And that pc is the only review most of the reviewers ever done

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:16 PM

I am seeing tons of people that are verifed

TheRealHendrix79 11-Jun-19 05:18 PM

how much performance in a laptop would a rtx 2060 be vs. a rtx 2070 max-Q? enough to upgrade for 200$?

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:18 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chMwINWqIUc

Jarrod'sTech

RTX 2060 vs RTX 2070 Max-Q - Does It Matter?

Which graphics should you pick in your next laptop? The Nvidia RTX 2060, or the next step up, the 2070 Max-Q? In this gaming laptop comparison you’ll see whi...

TheRealHendrix79 11-Jun-19 05:22 PM

wow that's shockingly close to notebook check which gave it a 7% increase, that video gave it 6%

are max-Q driver likely to get a lot more optimized though in the future? or does nvidia optimize better for regular non max-q cards

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:22 PM

So that newegg one is probably my best bet even compared to like ibp or cyberpower

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:24 PM

Yeah in terms of performance, it basically comes down to a 1660 ti vs a 2060 which the 2060 wins, but it's up to you, with the ibuypower you do get a 3 year warrenty which is a plus

@TheRealHendrix79 https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-RTX-2070-Max-Q-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-Laptop_9611_9581.247598.0.html

Graphics Card Comparison - Head 2 Head

I have no clue not really the best with laptops

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:25 PM

And the free peripherals are nice too hmm

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:26 PM

you get a free keyboard and mouse with the nwegg one, ibuypower's though is pretty cheap mouse isnt bad

keyboard is brutal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tGTk4kCD08

TheSpyHood

GTX 1050 Ti vs GTX 1060 vs GTX 1660 vs GTX 1660 Ti vs RTX 2060 | 1...

GTX 1050 Ti 4GB vs GTX 1060 6GB vs GTX 1660 6GB vs GTX 1660 Ti 6GB vs RTX 2060 6GB with the intel core i5 9400F @4.1GHz.. #gtx1660 #gtx1660ti #rtx2060 #gtx10...

This is a test with the i5-9400f your two options are on the end

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:28 PM

Would a 24" or 27" monitor work better with that arc069i

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:29 PM

Depends, what games you want to play I play alot of competive shooters so I prefer 24, if you play alot of single player games or more casual go with 27

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:30 PM

Thanks for that answer

Is gsync/ gsync compatible worth it?

Seeing monitors around 300cad without it and around 450 minimum with it

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:31 PM

I never used gsync before so no clue

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:32 PM

Gotcha

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:34 PM

Is the difference between 800-900 dollars that large when buying prebuilt?

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:36 PM

https://www.suggestapc.com/product/sapc-valkyrie-ii-i7-8700k-gtx-2060-16gb-ddr4-240gb-ssd-2tb-hdd/

Brian

SAPC Valkyrie II – i7-8700K, GTX 2060, 16GB DDR4, 240GB SSD, 2TB HDD

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:36 PM

in some cases yeah all depends on the deals

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:37 PM

Is it normal for a rig like this to be that cheap?

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:37 PM

Wheres that sold?

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:38 PM

Probs a shitty mobo and only 2400 mhz ram they had to cheap out somewhere

thats a Canada site

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:38 PM

Ohh

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:38 PM

Do you live near a microcenter?

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:38 PM

so that ibp one you sent me is the best deal right now at 900-950?

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:39 PM

yeah for what I can find yeah

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:39 PM

No microcenter

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:40 PM

bascially if you go for the 2060 you are paying like a extra 40 bucks for 10 more fps on average, but if you go for the 1660 ti better warrenty

xvColton 11-Jun-19 05:40 PM

ahh okay

I noticed those builds are 8gb ram@isnt 16 standard?

And does cyberpower have any better deals?

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:42 PM

No checked there already, 8 is fine unless you are planning on insanely not having like 15 chrome tabs open when gaming your good

for your budget unless you are building your own 8 is the norm

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:46 PM

Hows the 16gb 2400 mhz compare to rhe 8gb mhz?

8gb 2666 mhz

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m692eBH2Jw&t=

wolfgang

2133MHz vs. 2400MHz vs. 2666MHz vs. 2800MHz vs. 3000MHz vs. 3200MH...

GTA 5, BF1, Fortnite RAM speed comparison, gameplay benchmark. Processor: Intel Core i5-8600K 4.8GHz, Hexa Core / Coffee Lake. RAM: ADATA XPG Z1 DDR4 8GB (2X...

jitn 11-Jun-19 05:52 PM

Pretty similar it seems

The 8gb vs 16gb would make a big difference for multiple tabs then mainly i guess

Cmk 11-Jun-19 05:55 PM

yeah no fps diffrence between 16 and 8

1

xvColton 11-Jun-19 06:06 PM

Cmk what if i choose 950-1k usd

What changes

xvColton 11-Jun-19 08:14 PM

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gaming-RDY-SLIIBG213 is this good for the 1k range?

Gaming RDY SLIIBG213: iBUYPOWER®

Gaming RDY SLIIBG213 [Intel® Core™ i5-9400F Processor (6x 2.90GHz/9MB L3 Cache)]

Cmk 11-Jun-19 08:26 PM

bascially same as the nwegg one tbh

just 8 more gb of ram

xvColton 11-Jun-19 08:57 PM

Any other ones you find for aroybd 950-1k?

xvColton 11-Jun-19 09:35 PM

Around

xvColton 12-Jun-19 09:03 AM

Anyone got an opinion on best 900-1k usd build

Cmk 12-Jun-19 09:48 AM

Go with one of the two I sent you @xvColton

xvColton 12-Jun-19 10:19 AM

alright

Cmk 12-Jun-19 10:28 AM

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883289030

This a option to but small case

xvColton 12-Jun-19 10:38 AM

Can you link the ibp one again

Cmk 12-Jun-19 10:42 AM

Which one the 1660 ti or 2060

xvColton 12-Jun-19 10:51 AM

Both if you dont mind ill check em

xvColton 12-Jun-19 11:07 AM

And is there a way to make changes to any if those i dont see a customize option

xvColton 12-Jun-19 11:18 AM

Nvm i see the RDY ones cant be

xvColton 12-Jun-19 12:10 PM

Whats the difference between intel and ryzen?

userpay 12-Jun-19 12:11 PM

In terms of broad category Intel has been better at pure gaming performance and Ryzen has been better at work stuff

the new generation of ryzen coming out in July might shake things up however

xvColton 12-Jun-19 12:11 PM

Ahh ok

AmariBot BOT 12-Jun-19 12:11 PM

@xvColton

elysium

CONGRATS You are now level 1!!!

userpay 12-Jun-19 12:12 PM

and at least from my perspective the gaming performance difference isn't really that huge.

when comparing cpus of the same tier

xvColton 12-Jun-19 03:29 PM

Anyone on ti help??

Guru 13-Jun-19 10:02 AM

Guys, Razer Mamba hyperflux w/ mp or Razer Mamba tournament edition? Ty

Cmk 13-Jun-19 10:07 AM

@Guru what games you play ?

Guru 13-Jun-19 10:09 AM

mostly fps like rainbow six, pubg, fortnite which isnt fps but still a kinda shooter and csgo , but other stuff like clustertruck at times

@Cmk

^

Cmk 13-Jun-19 10:27 AM

@Guru I recommend taking a look at this http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/top-40/

Zy

Top 40 - Rocket Jump Ninja

What you need to know… I’m Zy, over 20 years playing Quake, reviewed over 80 mice. The list is based on my experience and community feedback. Everyone is different, so even the mouse at #40 could be your #1. Don’t stress the number. Find the right mouse for you! If your...

Only mouse not on there that is top 5 is the glorious mouse model o which is supposed to be really good

Guru 13-Jun-19 10:29 AM

oh no theres this guy who wants to trade for my hyperflux set. wondering if i should keep it thats all

and glorious mouse model ois pretty expensive at a whooping 180 for a wired mouse and its real similar to the finalmouse air 58

Cmk 13-Jun-19 10:43 AM

@Guru glorious is only 60

50*

Guru 13-Jun-19 10:52 AM

actually

?

amazon said 180

Cmk 13-Jun-19 10:56 AM

@Guru It's on backorder right now, they sold insane amounts at launch according to there twitter re stoke very shortly

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-model-o-black

Glorious Model O (Matte Black)

xvColton 13-Jun-19 11:40 AM

Hey anyone on to provide an opinion?

christmas 13-Jun-19 07:24 PM

does anyone have experience with the RTX cards?

Cmk 13-Jun-19 07:34 PM

yes

christmas 13-Jun-19 07:52 PM

are they any good?

JKL 13-Jun-19 08:21 PM

in comparison to what? (edited)

snorting play dough?

christmas 13-Jun-19 08:22 PM

compared to gtx line

JKL 13-Jun-19 08:25 PM

which rtx?

rtx 2070 < gtx 1080 ti

altho, if u wait for the price drop, migth be sorta worth it

christmas 13-Jun-19 08:45 PM

well im just looking for a solid upgrade to my 970

cause its good but its gettin old

and games are getting more demanding

Cmk 14-Jun-19 07:40 AM

.sal

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xvColton 14-Jun-19 12:25 PM

Hey can anyone help me?

Cmk 14-Jun-19 12:42 PM

yes lol

xvColton 14-Jun-19 12:47 PM

So i ordered a pc froma amazon a cyber power one

But im getting no signal when i plug it into thr gpu

Monitor works fine with other things like my Xbox

Cmk 14-Jun-19 12:48 PM

power is on right

xvColton 14-Jun-19 12:49 PM

Yes everything spins as wel all fans

And gpu fans

Cmk 14-Jun-19 12:49 PM

you changed your monitor to the right channel?

xvColton 14-Jun-19 12:49 PM

Yeah ive tried everything i think lol

Cmk 14-Jun-19 12:51 PM

using right cabel aswell

xvColton 14-Jun-19 12:51 PM

Yeah HDMI

Cmk 14-Jun-19 12:55 PM

Make sure that you are plugging into the video card ports (horizontal) and not any onboard graphics ports. The onboard ports (near all the USB ports) are disabled if a video card is in the system.

xvColton 14-Jun-19 01:56 PM

Turns out the ram was a lil loose

christmas 14-Jun-19 02:16 PM

lol

computers are finnicky

i once had mine die and all i needed to do was switch the ram slots

both sticks were functioning, and all the slots worked, just not the specific combination for whatever reason

JKL 15-Jun-19 04:59 AM

Does case come with fans?

💕 コード：002 💕 15-Jun-19 07:20 AM

Usually cases come with fans

ToTimesTwoIsToo 15-Jun-19 08:31 AM

Hi everyone!

💕 コード：002 💕 15-Jun-19 09:58 AM

Heya

Yog 15-Jun-19 10:03 AM

Cheers love! The Calvary's here!

xvColton 15-Jun-19 10:21 AM

Whats the recommended temp i should be shooting for with my build? My friend told me up to like 90 celsius on msi after burner is fine but that seems insane

💕 コード：002 💕 15-Jun-19 10:44 AM

nani 90C?

It's ~70C and I start panicking lol

SlavicSaint 15-Jun-19 10:45 AM

Boys there are some sales on newwegg.ca and i can afford up to 1000$CAD, which one of these is the best deal ? -https://www.newegg.ca/abs-computer-technologies-master-pro-ala078/p/N82E16883102371 -https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16883289027

xvColton 15-Jun-19 10:45 AM

thats what i thought for temps haha but i havent had a pc in years but i knew like 90? thats fuckin high man

idk where he heard that but he told me his shit gets up to 80s all the time and hes had it for a long time idk man

i get nervous at 60 since i just got this thing

AmariBot BOT 15-Jun-19 10:46 AM

@xvColton

xvColton

CONGRATS You are now level 2!!!

💕 コード：002 💕 15-Jun-19 10:54 AM

80s is HOT.

70s is AAA ITS GETTING HOT IN HERE

60s is NICE.

50s is IM UNDERPERFORMING LUL

40s is IM TURNING ON

Anything below that consider it dead limp dick.

Cmk 15-Jun-19 11:21 AM

@SlavicSaint I posted on your post

SlavicSaint 15-Jun-19 11:42 AM

thx man ,3

Riceballs 16-Jun-19 09:39 PM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cDZXjy

any advice on what to switch out?

JKL 17-Jun-19 02:30 AM

feel like the ryzen will bottleneck the 2080 ti

idk

based dad 17-Jun-19 11:51 AM

Can someone knowledgeable tell me if this is a good deal and what its capannle of?

https://www.woot.com/offers/msi-15-6-gl63-8rd-gaming-laptop?ref=w_cnt_gw_dly

MSI 15.6" GL63 8RD Gaming Laptop - $749.99 - Free shipping for Pri...

Woe to the solitary gamer

Cmk 17-Jun-19 11:54 AM

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based dad 17-Jun-19 01:24 PM

Sorry! Thought I was on suggestalaptop

Riceballs 17-Jun-19 04:31 PM

@JKL you have any suggestions on what i should change out

ARandomSpy 17-Jun-19 05:57 PM

Would it be any cheaper to build my own PC or should I stick with pre-builts. I've never put together my own before though I'm willing to try.

Riceballs 17-Jun-19 07:08 PM

@ARandomSpy definitely cheaper to build your own pc

would be a good skill to learn especially if you are going to upgrade your pc down the line

ARandomSpy 17-Jun-19 07:18 PM

That's definitely something I plan to do later on, thanks for the advice

JKL 17-Jun-19 09:45 PM

@Riceballs idk much about ryzen chips but i would get at least an i7 8700k or just wait til the 12 core cpu is out for amd

Riceballs 18-Jun-19 09:25 AM

@JKL if i don't plan on overclocking, is the i7 8700 good with the build?

well, going for optimal performance

without overclocking

JKL 18-Jun-19 09:30 AM

i think?

TheRealHendrix79 18-Jun-19 12:07 PM

im looking at a laptop with an rtx 2060 or 2070 max-q, the performance difference only seems to be about 10%, but the 2070 has 8Gb Vram vs. 6Gb in the 2060

is 6Gb Vram going to be limiting at all in the next few years?

specifically for 1080p or 1080p upscaled to 4k on my HDTV. doubt ill ever play 1440p or 4k. seems a lot of games are recommending 4-6Gb vram already though, won't that eventually be 8Gb+ in a few years? or has vram capped out with textures and such

Riceballs 18-Jun-19 01:20 PM

https://store.zotac.com/zotac-geforcer-gtx-1080-ti-refurbished-zt-p10810l-10p-r

ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti [Refurbished]

worth or naw?

Yog 18-Jun-19 01:29 PM

@Cmk I was going to ask the support for Ibuypower when the deal is over and they ran out. I told my dad to quickly order it and he told me to wait. Is there any pc like this at 1,250 USD or less? Im sorry. https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Gaming-RDY-LCIBG202 (edited)

Gaming RDY LCIBG202: iBUYPOWER®

Gaming RDY LCIBG202 [Intel® Core™ i7-9700K Processor (8x 3.60GHz/12MB L3 Cache)]

I want these specs: Processor speed: 3.7 ghz+ Gpu: RTX 2060 6gb or better Ram: 16 ggb ddr4 Storage: 1tb hard drive + and 240 gb ssd+ Wifi: 802.11ac

Tag me if you find anything @Cmk. Or @JKL

Or @Galm

TCole 18-Jun-19 01:47 PM

I'm about to get all of those specs in a Lenovo Legion Y740 @Yog

$1200

Yog 18-Jun-19 01:48 PM

Laptop?

TCole 18-Jun-19 01:48 PM

little higher than those specs but might be throttled b/c it's in a laptop but 144hz IPS

yeah they make towers too though

quite ergonomic actually

Yog 18-Jun-19 01:48 PM

K

Do u know the desktops that have about those specs for the price?

TCole 18-Jun-19 01:49 PM

don't know the price but if you google lenovo legion im sure you could find it they only have like 2-3 tower models

all prebuilts

Yog 18-Jun-19 01:50 PM

Okay thx m8

TCole 18-Jun-19 01:50 PM

but the build quality is just dank

no prob

Yog 18-Jun-19 01:50 PM

:3

TheRealHendrix79 18-Jun-19 02:11 PM

is 6Gb vram going to be enough for 1080p a few years down the line? or would it be smarter to get a 8Gb vram card?

Galm 18-Jun-19 02:11 PM

You can get a 2070 for 1400

TheRealHendrix79 18-Jun-19 02:13 PM

is a 2070 max-q a lot more future proof than an rtx 2060 for a laptop?

Galm 18-Jun-19 02:43 PM

@TheRealHendrix79 I mean a full one

The Clevo PB50 is 1400 at Microcenter

But its in store only

Powerspec 1520

TheRealHendrix79 18-Jun-19 02:43 PM

yeah im looking at a y740 with either a 2060 or 2070 max-q, i just like the form factor

Galm 18-Jun-19 02:44 PM

Not massively so

The vram can help a bit but... It’s hard to tell in the long run

TheRealHendrix79 18-Jun-19 03:01 PM

@Galm yeah the 8gb vs 6gb was the thing I was worried most about. will games likely start using over 6Gb for 1080p in the next few years?

the 1660ti just came out as well with 6Gb, with only the 70 and 80 series staying at 8Gb vram, which i'm guessing is more for 1440/4k

Bongonzo 18-Jun-19 03:06 PM

I can't think of anything wrong with going with a good 8gb (other than the price possibly)

ARandomSpy 18-Jun-19 07:39 PM

What case type would fit in a cubby section of my desk that is 17 inches deep, 10 inches wide, and 20 inches tall? Are there any recommended cases within those parameters with good airflow?

viktorvaughn 18-Jun-19 11:46 PM

I found a PC I want https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883230462?Item=N82E16883230462&Description=ryzen%202700%20desktop&cm_re=ryzen_2700_desktop-_-83-230-462-_-Product I was gonna pull the trigger but I'm wondering if I should wait for 4th of July sales. Do you think I'll find a killer deal with roughly these specs?

Cmk 19-Jun-19 06:19 AM

@viktorvaughn not the greatest pc

viktorvaughn 19-Jun-19 08:46 AM

really?

My budget is ~800-950 and I'm trying to find a PC that'll be good to do some gaming on (not max settings is fine and probably no super intensive stuff) and video editing (rarely 4K footage, mostly 1080p stuff)

Cmk 19-Jun-19 09:51 AM

@viktorvaughn when I get home I’ll find you don’t the gtx 1650 is a god awful gpu can find you a 1660 ti for that budget

https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-summoner-ala112/p/N82E16883102723

For 950 solid deal good cpu, 3000mhz ram 16 gb of ram, 1660 ti

DiscordPat 19-Jun-19 10:50 AM

Hi, I've been looking to get a pc for a while and want one that is good enough to play some modern games (such as Assassins Creed) at 60 fps high settings on 1440p monitor.

I'm currently sat looking at one with the specs: Chipset Intel® H370 Processor family 8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor Processor Intel® Core™ i7-8700 (3.2 GHz base frequency, up to 4.6 GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology, 12 MB cache, 6 cores) Graphics (discrete) NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 (8 GB GDDR6 dedicated) Memory HyperX® 8 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (1 x 8 GB) Memory Slots 2 UDIMM Memory Note Transfer rates up to 2666 MT/s. Memory and storage 8 GB memory 2 TB HDD storage 256 GB SSD storage Power supply type 500 W Bronze efficiency power supply I know about the bare minimum of knowledge about PC specs, but how would this one be for around £1100 ? (edited)

𝐑𝐎𝐌𝐀𝐍 19-Jun-19 01:51 PM

@DiscordPat why dont you try going to http://www.pcpartspicker.com

and putting all those parts in

and see the total cost

DiscordPat 19-Jun-19 01:55 PM

I'll have a look thanks

viktorvaughn 19-Jun-19 03:15 PM

@Cmk thank you for the PC link. it looks good. i won't be able to set it up until august though - should I wait for 4th of july? are there usually good deals on prebuilts that are worth holding off?

Cmk 19-Jun-19 03:16 PM

Wait if you're planning to buy

always wait untill the day you want to buy

things always change

viktorvaughn 19-Jun-19 03:20 PM

No worry about missing a killer deal that won't come back around?

Cmk 19-Jun-19 03:21 PM

yeah don't worry

viktorvaughn 19-Jun-19 03:23 PM

how about this guy? https://slickdeals.net/f/13154326-overpowered-desktop-gtx-1080-i7-8700-32gb-512gb-2tb-hd-f-s-899?page=6#commentsBox

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Cmk 19-Jun-19 03:36 PM

good deal but a 1 star on walmart reviews

out for like 40

𝐑𝐎𝐌𝐀𝐍 19-Jun-19 03:38 PM

theres probs a catc

900 dollars?

thats sick

JKL 19-Jun-19 03:45 PM

Jury duty’s a bitch

Cmk 19-Jun-19 03:50 PM

https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWERED-Gaming-Desktop-DTW2-2-Year-Warranty-Intel-i7-8700-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-512GB-SSD-2TB-HDD-32GB-RAM-Windows-10/341889368?u1=fa8fc92892e211e9bc84ee7b3f3e8d1f0INT&oid=223073.1&wmlspartner=lw9MynSeamY&sourceid=31888804221702503940&affillinktype=10&veh=aff

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peep the reviews though

viktorvaughn 19-Jun-19 04:11 PM

most recent review is dec 18

i wonder if they changed anything since then

Cmk 19-Jun-19 04:13 PM

https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWERED-Gaming-Desktop-DTW1-2-Year-Warranty-Intel-i7-8700-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-256GB-SSD-2TB-HDD-16GB-Dual-Channel-RAM-Windows-10/621888364

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overpowered as bad reviews everywhere

viktorvaughn 19-Jun-19 04:35 PM

bummer

Random 20-Jun-19 01:28 PM

Is this a good value? https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-summoner-ala112/p/N82E16883102723?nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=7706533&SID=pcg-2035589916111160078&cjevent=dccd9e68939811e9808500790a1c0e0b

TCole 20-Jun-19 06:36 PM

with 7% cash back this might be the robbery of the eons, ya its a laptop but it's one fuckshit hell of a laptop

Wistful__ 21-Jun-19 11:31 PM

Just wanted to know if I'm getting a deal here. https://lytetechnology.com/product/lytetech-pc-intel-core-i3-gtx-1050-8gb-ram-windows-10/ Intel Core i3 GTX 1050 8GB RAM 500GB HDD Windows 10 for $399

Lytetech

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Mike 22-Jun-19 02:20 AM

@Wistful__ if its 8th/9th gen i3, its a pretty good deal

but they most likely have 2nd-4th gen i3 which are utter garbage

Wistful__ 22-Jun-19 10:10 AM

yeah, I was planning to upgrade the CPU after I get this PC, but over all do you think it's a deal?

Cmk 22-Jun-19 02:57 PM

@Wistful__ You would also need new ram and a new mobo

ddr3

it has

JKL 22-Jun-19 05:07 PM

ddr3

leel

Mike 22-Jun-19 08:12 PM

@Wistful__ at that point it's not even a deal lol

AlexBC 23-Jun-19 08:25 AM

Hey guys dont know if I can make questions here but Im looking for a laptop. I mad a post on reddit addressing it. Would appreciate if you guys took a look and helped me our as Im new to this stuff :)

Cmk 23-Jun-19 11:31 AM

.sal

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Cmk 23-Jun-19 11:31 AM

@AlexBC

AlexBC 23-Jun-19 11:32 AM

Thanks @Cmk

TheRealHendrix79 23-Jun-19 12:00 PM

will a laptop with an rtx 2060 be good for 3-4 years playing at 1080p high settings? if im looking for 1080/60+ at least. fire strike and time spy scores for the one im looking at are 14,600 and 6,400

or should i be considering a 70 or 80 series gpu instead? will a 60 mid-range last me that long?

Cmk 23-Jun-19 12:20 PM

.sal

Dyno BOT 23-Jun-19 12:20 PM

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Cmk 23-Jun-19 12:20 PM

@TheRealHendrix79

Snowyyy 25-Jun-19 02:09 AM

@TheRealHendrix79 for gaming. A desktop is much better

Better heat dissipation. Better costomization. Better, bigger display. Cleaper also for around the same specs

At least if you would build it

@Cmk u devils are going to be legit next year lol

G A Y B O I 25-Jun-19 05:00 AM

What's a good desktop that support VR like good fps not 40 or mid 50 but good fps that I'm able to use a 144hz monitor

christmas 25-Jun-19 01:48 PM

hey is anyone active currently?

💕 コード：002 💕 25-Jun-19 02:00 PM

leave your question and it should be answered.

@christmas

Dylanrde 25-Jun-19 02:02 PM

Hey, i have a friend who wants to buy a prebuilt with a 1k usd budget for gaming. Can be a bit higher than 1k.

christmas 25-Jun-19 02:03 PM

sure, im heading off to the college soon and looking to make a smaller but still powerful build because my current pc is big. was wondering if anyone has experience in doing something like this

JKL 25-Jun-19 05:26 PM

i bought a prebuilt.. ended up switching out all the parts

everything cept for the motherboard n chassis lel

Cmk 25-Jun-19 05:38 PM

should of just returned it and built one lol

TheRealChandu 25-Jun-19 08:37 PM

Any suggestions for a gaming pc $800 CAD?

Moon 26-Jun-19 04:08 PM

Hey everyone. I'm looking for a decent prebuilt between 600-800 dollars. What do you guys recomend? I mostly play League/WoW

Cmk 26-Jun-19 04:15 PM

@Moon https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883289032

Idio 27-Jun-19 07:57 PM

Just had my boot drive fail on me, looking to upgrade to an SSD. Haven't kept up over the years with new formfactors, and variants of SSD's, need some help deciding on what to upgrade to. No intention of upgrading any other parts of my rig, using an older MSI Z87 XPower mobo, and whatever I upgrade to needs to be able to be used as my boot drive. Suggestions?

jamesedward97 28-Jun-19 09:10 AM

Hi everyone, my current anti virus protection just ended. I was wondering whether a paid anti virus subscription is still required or is the standard windows defender good enough?

James 🌈 28-Jun-19 09:27 AM

I haven't had anti-virus in years on mine, just use CCleaner every once in a while and never had an issue

ToTimesTwoIsToo 28-Jun-19 11:56 AM

@jamesedward97 just use win10 built in protection

crazychris4124 29-Jun-19 03:51 PM

anyone know if NZXT uses the latest updates/security fixes for their motherboards and CPUs before sending out PCs through their BLD program??

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 04:03 PM

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-0001-1GEY7?Item=9SIA24G9BC1536 this a good buy?

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:16 PM

@mikeisher It's not bad... This is around the same price https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883289032?Description=gaming%20desktop&cm_re=gaming_desktop-_-83-289-032-_-Product

You lose the 8gb of ram, but I have zero clue what kind of ram it was, 1660 is better then the 4gb edition of the 580, lose hard drive space but there not pricy if you wanted to uprade later on

plus a better case, that thing looks like a overheating nightmare

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:19 PM

I have 1tb HD in a box

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:20 PM

That could work

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:22 PM

I've been OOL with PCs for years, hence the prebuilt. I have no clue what specs are good and not. Hard to find accurate info for me

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:23 PM

There pretty similar systems the one I posted will get slighty better FPS

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:24 PM

I do like the one you have posted

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:24 PM

https://youtu.be/dYbzUvMe4uw

Benchmark

GTX 1660 vs RX 580 Test in 8 Games

CPU: intel core i7-8700K Games: 1-Battlefield V 2-Assassins Creed Odyssey 3-Strange Brigade 4-Resident Evil 2 5-Metro Exodus 6-Far Cry New Dawn 7-PUBG 8-Shad...

Keep in mind that thats the rx 580 8gb verison instead of the 4 that's in the dell

between the 4gb and the 8gb it's like a 5-10 fps diffrence in games

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:26 PM

Is that a delay difference?

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:26 PM

no FPS

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:27 PM

So RX is outperforming the GTX?

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:27 PM

No Gtx does

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:28 PM

I'm still at intro of video, saying RX is 99gps GTX was at 85

95*

Cmk 29-Jun-19 05:29 PM

That was only one game certain games are better optimized for AMD cards

mikeisher 29-Jun-19 05:29 PM

That makes sense, quick fast forward showed GTX was well ahead

Thinking I might just hit buy now.

Give her a spin

💕 コード：002 💕 29-Jun-19 05:58 PM

#pc-maintenance

OnlyMechanics 29-Jun-19 07:30 PM

Guys I’m looking to buy this for 1200 it’s a good deal?

JKL 01-Jul-19 12:56 AM

Cmk 01-Jul-19 06:27 AM

@JKL lol, I'm still going to wait even though I don't know what to buy for the summer sale

etizoo 01-Jul-19 09:07 PM

Guys quick question. I'm not too familiar with the hardware components of a computer so I'm looking for some tips. I'm just trying to buy a PC that can run 2 monitors. It's for business and school work no games at all and no photoshop. At most demanding usage maybe like 5 super large excel files open. Is there a certain component I should definitely get or avoid? Any help is much appreciated!

Dude 01-Jul-19 09:15 PM

how to invite?

drakeatscakes 02-Jul-19 08:18 AM

I really want to buy a NZXT build. I am tempted to buy this https://www.letsbld.com/starter-pc

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I want the NZXT service and warranty on parts so I am happy to pay extra for them to build it for me. Curious if I spent a couple more hundred dollars if I could build a more efficient computer on their site? Can somebody build me one on there for max 1200? Or is the starter PC a good place to start?

JPatrick15 02-Jul-19 08:33 PM

Is this worth it?

1905dar 05-Jul-19 06:52 AM

Any better uk deals than this? https://www.cclonline.com/pc/specialist-gaming-pcs/pba/ccl-stryker-gaming-pc/?siteID=hL3Qp0zRBOc-WTNq9bXJZdwgvawUpu3B3A

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Echoflake 05-Jul-19 08:24 AM

i don't know much about computers, but want a solid gaming desktop that will last. How does this look: https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-mage-h-ali273/p/N82E16883102597

Vast lolool 05-Jul-19 12:58 PM

@1905dar not sure your budget, but i'm probably gonna be buying this since it's the best thing i've found for my £700 budget

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-drogon-2600-six-core-3.9ghz-nvidia-rtx-2060-6gb-desktop-gaming-pc.html

AWD Drogon 2600 Six Core 3.9GHz Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB Desktop Gaming PC

if you use codeword "drogon" you get £50 off

doesn't come with windows tho

Astromythlete 05-Jul-19 03:13 PM

Looking for a cheap workstation that I can pair with a GTX 1660ti GPU. I don't mind refurbished as long as the build quality is decent

viktorvaughn 06-Jul-19 05:59 AM

argh @Vast lolool that is an amazing deal even when you upgrade a few things. why can't there be something like this in the USA?!

! ia ia ia ツ 06-Jul-19 12:29 PM

anyone help me out

Guru 06-Jul-19 12:55 PM

whats up

Backyard Babushka 09-Jul-19 06:21 PM

would this be the cheapest option to buy if i want to do ios dev?

rascalov 10-Jul-19 04:36 AM

@Vast lolool I think I'll buy that one, are there any parts worth upgrading on it or is it good as is?

Vast lolool 10-Jul-19 04:41 AM

@rascalov im just upgrading the SSD

240gb isn't much

rascalov 10-Jul-19 04:55 AM

fair enough, what are you doing for the OS?

Vast lolool 10-Jul-19 04:58 AM

doing this @rascalov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkafkI32Cs0

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crazychris4124 10-Jul-19 02:33 PM

when do you think AMD will change sockets on their CPUs?

JKL 10-Jul-19 06:00 PM

https://tenor.com/view/windows-xp-microsoft-pc-start-up-gif-8049428

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matth 11-Jul-19 10:15 AM

looking for a slim light weight kaptop under 500CAD

laptop*

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Dyno BOT 11-Jul-19 10:26 AM

Greetings. It seems you're making an inquiry about a laptop. /r/SuggestAPC is able to help you out, but you're better off checking out the /r/SuggestALaptop Discord server (and sub) for more information. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/ZfsZYVz

JKL 11-Jul-19 11:48 AM

Preston M 12-Jul-19 08:25 PM

Anyone have a picture comparing the size of a 24" monitor sitting next to or above a 32" monitor?

For size comparison, cannot find one online serious

Max Wanton-Power 15-Jul-19 11:35 AM

Hi, im looking for a prime day deal on a pc with at least an i5 mainly for ripping and burning movies. 2 dvd drives prefered. I am out of the loop on pcs these days, gaming is not a concern. Would like it to last a good long while. Anyone see anything up this alley?

Max Wanton-Power 15-Jul-19 12:14 PM

The two dvd drives might be hard to find from what i see. Are the $400 acer desktops with mixed reviews any good or is that a trap.

Muffin 15-Jul-19 01:43 PM

Hi all, My media center died and rather than go through trouble shooting im just starting new. Used for couch websurfing, and playing movies from local storage. I have hdds and i think one ssd already that are good from the previous media center. OS, HDD, SSD and Wifi not needed, nor are any accessories. Needs to run windows, and hopefully play 4k files locally. Somethink like an NUC would work, but key word here is CHEAP thanks.

G A Y B O I 15-Jul-19 07:20 PM

What's your budget we don't know what's cheap

JKL 16-Jul-19 01:19 AM

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Dyno BOT 16-Jul-19 01:19 AM

Greetings. It seems you're making an inquiry about a laptop. /r/SuggestAPC is able to help you out, but you're better off checking out the /r/SuggestALaptop Discord server (and sub) for more information. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/ZfsZYVz

papiPC 16-Jul-19 08:16 PM

Hey all, any avice on a prebuilt pc that I would use for gaming (overwatch, CS::GO, Apex legends, battlefield, GTA, FIFA), along with using it to edit videos and use photoshop? Budget is ~$1,800 for just the tower. I understand that NVIDIA and AMD just released their newest graphics cards. I am hoping prices have dropped on "older" pre-builts, but please let me know if waiting, and how long, would result in a better idea. thank you!

G A Y B O I 16-Jul-19 09:09 PM

Those games doesn't require the best graphic card so like rtx 2060/2070 would do the trick

Patback20 16-Jul-19 09:27 PM

I'm in the USA, my budget is 1000 (though preferably lower), and mainly for gaming. So I do most of my gaming on console, but I'd love to get a gaming PC to play with some friends who dont have consoles. Right now they're playing Escape From Tarkov. I've looked at the Predator Helios. It seems like a sick machine, but it falls right at the edge of my budget. On the other hand I've found this laptop: Dell G5 15 5590,G5590-5547BLK-PUS,8th Gen Intel Core i5 8300H Proc (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, up to 4.0GHz w/Turbo Boost),15.6" FHD,NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1050Ti w/4gb Graphics mem,1TB HDD+128GB SSD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RGJ4PRJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_OoPlDb25GJSD7 But I'm also not opposed to getting a cheaper desktop so long as it doesn't effect my quality too much. The desktops I was looking at was this one: SkyTech Oracle Gaming Computer Desktop PC Ryzen 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core, GTX 1050TI 4GB, 16GB DDR4 2400, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Wi-Fi USB, Windows 10 Home 64-bit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CH38T1S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_oqPlDb0Z1WY5Q So my question is, compared to the Predator, would the Dell laptop or the destop be better in terms of price to quality gameplay? Is the mobility of the laptop worth the extra cost vs. the upgradability of the desktop?

Also I would like to play elite dangerous in vr, with another friend.

Cmk 16-Jul-19 09:38 PM

@Patback20 posted on your post that desktop is not that good for the price

Patback20 16-Jul-19 09:45 PM

Thank you

Bryan 18-Jul-19 08:54 AM

Does anybody know what this is lol? Came with my pc

WoollyOne 18-Jul-19 10:40 AM

I'm looking for a laptop below $1200 that's portable, has an i7, 16GB RAM, and a graphics card equivalent to 1050 Ti range

worth mentioning I found a Lenovo P1 for $1300 off of Lenovo's own site with all those specs

Anyone got any suggestions? I've looked into things like the "Predator Helios 300" but I just can't get over how clunky those laptop are, and tbh I don't really need fantastic performance. This is just for when I'm away from my iMac on vacation or out of my room at school, etc

G A Y B O I 18-Jul-19 07:20 PM

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TheMasked 18-Jul-19 10:14 PM

I'm looking for a desktop. My budget is around $700 but is flexible. I'm not planning doing any intense gaming or photo editing. I currently have a 2013 MacBook Air, and I don't need anything more powerful than that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also in general what are good sites to buy from? I thought newegg was supposed to be good, but after looking them up, I saw that a lot of people had bad experiences with them.

JKL 18-Jul-19 10:20 PM

walmart

torinago 20-Jul-19 09:25 AM

Newegg USED to be good, but ever since 2016 or so, the quality control, support, returns, have all been much more dicey. For example I know people IRL who have purchased "new" RX580s or GTX 1060s from there that ended up being used mining cards, or instances where they purchase something from one of the third party sellers (first from asia, etc) and have lots of difficulty with the RMA or returns, etc.

Not to be conspiracy theorist but they were "heavily invested into" (majority stake) by Shenzen Liaison Interactive in 2016, and perhaps this is part of why. Don't know for sure.

Refractia 20-Jul-19 03:42 PM

I'm looking to pick up a PC within the next few days with around $1000 usd budget, can be slightly over. I know I missed most of the deals but is there anything still work looking at? I don't play too demanding games, mostly things like path of exiles or mobas. Just looking for a PC that will last me a good few years.

Boss_Loaf_ 21-Jul-19 11:02 AM

anyone know if this is a good pc/deal? https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Ultra-7-Gaming-PC

Ultra 7 Gaming PC

JKL 24-Jul-19 11:55 AM

OEM

TizzyMatic 25-Jul-19 05:42 AM

Does anyone have any OriginPC reviews or experiences? Recommend it or Digital Storm?

Cabe 30-Jul-19 06:18 AM

Good morning guys! I was hoping to get some help. I was looking to purchase a PC and HTC Vive in the coming weeks or even later depending on what the recommendations are looking like. The Vive is roughly $500 which leaves me with around 900-1100 for a PC. I personally have been grinding to save the money for a PC and figured since my 21st birthday came around last week I'd treat myself finally to one. I am a casual gamer, I enjoy games such as GTA, Siege, all games in general. I couldn't tell you a thing about specs or what exactly im looking for I just want a good experience. So I could use all the help I can get. I appreciate the future guidance! Thank you!

JKL 30-Jul-19 11:14 AM

if u want more bang for your buck, just make the pc

Deathvortex 31-Jul-19 11:22 AM

Hey I was planning on getting a used pc from eBay for hosting a Plex server. Can anyone suggest what specs should I be looking for? Im going to be direct playing almost all the time. Maybe 1 or 2 transcodes once in a while. TIA

xxxxxxxxxxxxx 01-Aug-19 11:55 AM

Hey, any suggestions on a good mini desktop PC for around $100-200? I'm thinking something like an old Lenovo Thinkcentre M73 or something. they're running like $130 on eBay https://www.ebay.com/b/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-PC-Desktops-All-In-One-Computers/179/bn_16158895

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I just need it for word processing, and I already have keyboard/monitor/mouse or something like this https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Business-Computer-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B07CP7794X/

walterz1 02-Aug-19 02:00 AM

hello

@everyone

Zimgol 02-Aug-19 09:26 AM

HP Pavilion 790 Gaming Desktop - 9th Gen Intel Core i7 - Radeon RX 580 16gb RAM 1TB HDD + 256gb SSD. Is it good for $1,100 plus tax. Can someone tell me what's not to like about it. I would play the ocassional game. Is there a way to know if the components are upgradeable? Thanks

G A Y B O I 02-Aug-19 08:59 PM

No it isn't good because rx 580 is a decent card comparable to GTX 1060 but it isn't worth the price for 1100$

There are better machine out there with similar pricing.

@Zimgol

Blue Rose 02-Aug-19 09:01 PM

wew, just spend approximately too fucking much

G A Y B O I 02-Aug-19 09:01 PM

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883289035 have rtx 2070. just add another 8gb ram and you good.

Blue Rose 02-Aug-19 09:02 PM

5500~ CAD, including the cost for monitors and peripherals

G A Y B O I 02-Aug-19 09:03 PM

Tf.

Is the monitor at least 144hz?

Blue Rose 02-Aug-19 09:03 PM

2 monitors, 144Hz/1f

G A Y B O I 02-Aug-19 09:05 PM

And it cost that much? Damn

Blue Rose 02-Aug-19 09:05 PM

Part of it's just because time is important here so I shelled out for express shipping on virtually everything

G A Y B O I 02-Aug-19 09:06 PM

Wow those shipping price.

Blue Rose 02-Aug-19 09:06 PM

Moving soon, and my new address won't allow me to order packages above certain dimensions. Had to make sure I have everything ready before then.

npotvvvs 04-Aug-19 12:12 AM

Yo guys i was looking to buy the ibuypower pc from walmart, the one in recommended deals. I’d assume so but just asking to be safe. It is upgradeable right? Also I couldn’t find info on what type of power supply it has?

Bobthedog 04-Aug-19 09:21 AM

In the faqs section of this discord there is a walmart link to a great looking pc and was wondering if walmart ever restocks that type since it is out of stock currently

JKL 04-Aug-19 02:30 PM

https://tenor.com/view/uhhuh-conceited-suspicious-cupinhand-gif-11431849

buying pcs at walmart be like

Bobthedog 04-Aug-19 10:40 PM

LoL

Yog 05-Aug-19 12:54 PM

Creeper

Awww maaan

krez1 05-Aug-19 04:04 PM

Hi

I'm looking for a pre-built gaming PC around $1k. It seems a lot of the ones I'm seeing suggested are out of stock but still researching.

Cmk 05-Aug-19 04:24 PM

@krez1 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883289035?Item=N82E16883289035&cm_sp=Homepage_Dailydeal-_-P1_83-289-035-_-08052019

krez1 05-Aug-19 04:25 PM

@Cmk yes I saw that one! Was trying to see how much RAM it can hold

Cmk 05-Aug-19 04:28 PM

or you could do something like this

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1LM8R2

didn't include windows 10 saves 60 bucks, you can find keys for cheap now

krez1 05-Aug-19 04:30 PM

I think the first one has 16 GB max ram

Cmk 05-Aug-19 04:30 PM

which is fine

krez1 05-Aug-19 04:33 PM

I see

Is there anything to look for to see how quiet it's going to be?

Cmk 05-Aug-19 05:06 PM

no not really

JKL 05-Aug-19 06:09 PM

fan brand

krez1 05-Aug-19 07:35 PM

I see

Mic_max 06-Aug-19 02:13 AM

any good pc for my setup?

I have a 1.3inch monitor ips 240x240, I needed to use a FPC to HDMI adapter, but now it just has HDMI as output. A 4"x2" mouse, wireless so a usb port would be nice and a 5" keyboard, it is bluetooth so i would be great if bluetooth is supported

specs dont matter, only size, buget under 50bucks

OS: windows or Linux Ubuntu, Mint, Kali

I was thinking a RPI 2 or 3B+

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 09:24 AM

Hello

I want a fanless gaming computer

It's for a friend (seriously)

Appart from specific parts

What are the main things we have to take into account to have something he can game on?

He says he want to play Cyberpunk 2077

-

The fact is : i told him it's impossible multiple time

So in the end, I just come here to be sure nobody know something fanless on wich he can game on

Guru 06-Aug-19 10:24 AM

@LeDucSAS look, he can get a watercooled but it could leak and every could break, plus way more expensive

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 11:16 AM

Thanks, I list what we found here We were debating at the same time and we went to this conclusions (with 2 1terra SSD) - Passive tower and tailor made heat pipes, 1700€ i5 9400, 1650 or 1660 - Open custom made with passive cooling r5 2600, 1050ti, around 800-900€ - Streaming gaming, around 350-400€/ year, can run on raspberry - Since you propose water-cooling, we discussed it He was like I don't want to hear the pump. I look into passive water cooling, it exists, I'll look into it

Guru 06-Aug-19 11:21 AM

look, tell him this @LeDucSAS when hes gaming he wont hear it over headphones. as long as they arent super loud.

honestly, no point in it he could get much better specs over quietness

G A Y B O I 06-Aug-19 01:34 PM

tf? 900 for gtx 1050 ti?

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 01:38 PM

All things taken MB, PSU, RAM, SSD1, SSD2, CPU, GPU, Case

And windows license

Like, I don't recall MB 100€ PSU 100€ RAM 50-100€ SSD1 100€ SSD2 100€ CPU 120€ GPU 170€ Case 50€

Guru 06-Aug-19 01:40 PM

?

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 01:40 PM

For the build with 1050ti at 900€

I was addressing @G A Y B O I remark

Guru 06-Aug-19 01:42 PM

ah;

dont buy a 1050ti

not going to be worth

wat is the budget

tell me in euros or usd dont care

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 01:42 PM

1600€ I think

Or 2000€ I think he doesn't know what he want, he was looking at stuff in that order of price

I thought to myself, what, you can have a 80ti for that price

He said he's sick of earing fans Just because he used an old GPU too long and that GPU made atrocious noises

Guru 06-Aug-19 01:46 PM

oh man

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 01:46 PM

It's a bit like a caprice , also considering when he plays there is sounds

\_(°_o)_/ (edited)

Anyway, he'll made his mind, don't spend more time on it Thanks for the advices, though, I note not to take 1050ti Good night you all!

G A Y B O I 06-Aug-19 01:56 PM

i dont thiknk its worth a build for gtx 1050 ti

in a budget for 900

what is his budget? @LeDucSAS ?

LeDucSAS 06-Aug-19 02:01 PM

2000€

Guru 06-Aug-19 11:11 PM

Need help

Should I get a USB drive if adapter or pcie one

What is the best wifi adapter

Rock 07-Aug-19 07:11 AM

What does APC stand for?

Asian Pacific Chat?